Forum Thermomix
Welcoming Center, Management and General Chat => Chit Chat => Topic started by: faffa_70 on September 07, 2011, 09:25:34 am
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For all those that have been waiting here (http://www.thermomixapp.com/) is a link to the overview and below a copy of the email from HO.
The new Thermomix Recipe App is nearly here! The App will be available for download from iTunes and the App Store on Monday 12th September for iPhones, iPods and iPads.
The Thermomix Recipe App is full of all the recipes from the popular second cookbook of Vorwerk’s international series, My Way of Cooking. Features include a weekly meal planner, shopping list, search and share functions, videos and so much more!
With this App users can plan, shop and prepare delicious meals easily.
Customers will be able to trial the App by downloading a free Lite version, while a Full version will be available for purchase for $9.99. The free Lite version, and full version will be available from Monday September 12.
Sorry to all those Android users :( :(
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How exciting!!!! Though I do already have MWOC.....will there be other recipes on there do you think? or maybe in later updates?
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There will be more recipes as all the (high unit selling) countries (Aus included) are going to be plugged into the back end to add recipes etc. That was the understanding that I got from the meeting I attended :)
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I am excited too, i also have mwoc, so hoping tere will be lots more recipes
:)H
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That sounds pretty good, I also have the MWOC but the extra features and updates down the track would be great. Will be waiting for it.
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Interesting. Thanks Faffa
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Thanks Faffa :-*
I am a little disappointed with the price however. Especially when we've already invested in the cookbook. But some of the features will certainly be handy.
Now we just need someone tech savvy to develop a forum app ;D
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That looks great and I haven't yet bought the book so am even happier as have been very tempted.
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What's wrong with the price? I think $10 is reasonable. Considering postage or even getting in the car to pick the book up from a consultant, $10 is cheap!
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I to comment because IWhatever have never given me a brass razoo. I will not be buying into the app tho cos I have all the books. Now should it have also included the Travelling with TM (which I am SICK of waiting for - yes SICK SICK SICK) I might have been persuaded. Anyway, am getting sick (no, tired) of waiting for that book and have found this forum is the best thing that Vorwerk could ever invest in (not that they have thank God).
To get really good value out of your TM you don't need to invest in this i-application, and before you do so, I would recommend that you stay tuned to our forum website because it is completely FREE and will save you money. All of our members post because we want to share our recipes, and the i-phone etc app takes off websites such as ours and profits. To be upfront: our members don't have anything to gain by you being a member, and I really don't care what books Vorwerk bring out from now onwards because this website is always the BEST anyway because its from a volunantary netwook, and might not even buy their books because they are not living up to our forum. I really am sick of waiting to buy the Vorwork books and don't know why they have the restrictions. I have the money but don't have the time to waste on additional demonstrations and sh*t.
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Hi everyone. I don't have the equipment to make this relevant to me, but I did want to add into the discussion this info from Thermomix head office in Australia:
Features include a weekly meal planner, shopping list, search and share functions and so much more! With this App you can plan, shop and prepare delicious meals easily.
You’ll will be able to trial the App by downloading a free Lite version, while a Full version will be available for purchase.
To find out more, click here (http://www.thermomixapp.com/) to view a website that introduces all the features of this fantastic App!
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I will be getting it as I only have the EDC, and have wanted to look through MWOC. But dont worry, this forum is still the best and always will be! ;D Where else can you get not only recipes, but encouragment, support, feedback, suggestions, tweaks, laughs and friendship... you lot are the best thing I've come across :-* :-*
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Go CP :D :D You have said what a lot of our members think and I applaud your guts and honesty at doing so.
MWOC was certainly the best of the big International recipe books to choose for the app, the others would not have been such good value so if I didn't have the book and had the capacity to take on the app, I would probably do so as it is a lot cheaper than the book. Having said that, I still like my books with pictures to take to bed and browse - don't know if you would get the same pleasure out of an app (do they have pictures?).
Totally agree with your views on the forum - no-one can dispute this is the best place to be for a TMX owner. It goes beyond just being a recipe source, great friendships are made here and advice given on any subject. Can't beat that.
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I am going to download the free version, but i have paid for mwoc so cant see the value of paying $9.99 which is the most expensive app i have seen.
Hally :)
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To get really good value out of your TM you don't need to invest in this i-application, and before you do so, I would recommend that you stay tuned to our forum website because it is completely FREE and will save you money. All of our members post because we want to share our recipes, and the i-phone etc app takes off websites such as ours and profits. To be upfront: our members don't have anything to gain by you being a member, and I really don't care what books Vorwerk bring out from now onwards because this website is always the BEST anyway because its from a volunantary netwook, and might not even buy their books because they are not living up to our forum. I really am sick of waiting to buy the Vorwork books and don't know why they have the restrictions. I have the money but don't have the time to waste on additional demonstrations and sh*t.
Money making scheme: totally agree CreamPuff!
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While I don't have an issue with paying for an app or service if it is good, this does seem a bit on the pricey side in comparison to many other apps. I don't think it could replace the value of the forum, whether I buy it or not (don't know whether there is a version planned for android platforms). For me, an app might be handy, but it can never capture the community interaction that is so much of what I enjoy about this forum.
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If the app includes the entire MWOC book I have no problem paying $10 for the app, I now purchase as many books as I can in electronic format rather than the paper version and $10 is on the cheap side for a good current release book. If on the other hand if it's just a selection of recipes and the extras such as shopping list then I think it's far to expensive and I wouldn't consider purchasing, I purchased the robo app when it was free and never bothering looking at it because it's just a selection of recipes available from this forum and other blogs - I would much prefer to go to the original source where I can get additional information and reviews. The app can never replace the forum as they both have very different purposes.
So After saying all that does anyone now if the app includes the entire book? I received an email today and it says it includes 104 recipes but I have no idea how many are in the book.
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There is an iphone ipad app called RoboGourmet: Thermomix Recipes $6.99. It has 350 recipes & notes that it isn't an official product of Vorwerk and the recipes have been collected from public sources.
Have no idea what it would be like - best not download it when still need to convince DH that I am getting a TMX.
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Wonder, in My Way of Cooking there are -
21 Starters/soups
30 Mains
7 Sides
23 Sauces/dips/spreads
13 Desserts
23 Baking recipes
18 Drinks
A total of 135 recipes.
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I think no app or book could take the place of this forum. All the recipes are favorites of someone and the source of the recipe is usually on hand to hold your hand if needed.
I don't know if you arevsuppose to,as this is my first forum, but I love getting to know other aspects of everyone's life. And even in such a short time I really feel I know mist of the regulars and enjoy hearing bits about there day.
CP - I understand exactly where you are coming from.
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I agree. I don't even have my TMX yet but spend all my spare time on this forum.
Now if only every recipe could come with a picture I would be in heaven. I have a bookshelf full of recipe books & Magazines that I buy because I like the "pretty pictures" but never actually get around to making anything!!!!
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I would dearly love as many people to add photo's and hyperlink, and so here (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=3083.15) are some instructions that I hope are easy to understand
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CP - I couldn't agree with you more!
Mark Bittman's bestselling book "How to Cook Everything" is available in an app and costs $5.49 (US) for 2,000 recipes, making the TM one ridiculously expensive - like everything else they flog. I suspect they will proceed to update the app regularly at further cost each time.
I stopped buying their books years ago - this forum is the best resource any TM owner could ever use and the one I recommend to my friends!
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Thanks Judy, it looks like most of the recipes will be in the app but haven't made up my mind on buying it as I much prefer to try recipes that have already been tested.
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I to comment because IWhatever have never given me a brass razoo. I will not be buying into the app tho cos I have all the books. Now should it have also included the Travelling with TM (which I am SICK of waiting for - yes SICK SICK SICK) I might have been persuaded. Anyway, am getting sick (no, tired) of waiting for that book and have found this forum is the best thing that Vorwerk could ever invest in (not that they have thank God).
To get really good value out of your TM you don't need to invest in this i-application, and before you do so, I would recommend that you stay tuned to our forum website because it is completely FREE and will save you money. All of our members post because we want to share our recipes, and the i-phone etc app takes off websites such as ours and profits. To be upfront: our members don't have anything to gain by you being a member, and I really don't care what books Vorwerk bring out from now onwards because this website is always the BEST anyway because its from a volunantary netwook, and might not even buy their books because they are not living up to our forum. I really am sick of waiting to buy the Vorwork books and don't know why they have the restrictions. I have the money but don't have the time
to waste on additional demonstrations and sh*t.
I could not agree more and the free app is crap indeed.
Gert
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Downloading the App now, the cost is $8.49.
Enjoy! :
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OK downloaded the Iphone version, IPad not available, it does seem expensive as there is not alot of content:-
Starters 9
Soups 11
Pasta and rice dishes 5
Main dishes - meat 11
Main dishes - fish 6
Main dishes - vegetarian 5
Side dishes - 6
Sauces, dips and spreads 24
Desserts and sweets 15
Baking - savoury 4
Baking - sweet 13
Breads and rolls 9
Drinks 17
Basics 10
Hope this helps.
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Gosh that does seem expensive for that number of recipes. I had thought about downloading it but won't be doing so now - thanks for doing the research and saving me money Penji. :-* :-*
It seems that the problems with delivery of cookbooks lies with TMX Australia as (and I don't want to be too smug ;)) those of us in the UK can get books by phoning the UK office. I just thought I should mention it as I wouldn't want Vorwerk's worldwide reputation to be unfairly attacked when it looks as if the problem may be with one part of the organisation.
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I'm downloading the free version, Only has 10 recipes apparently but has all the other functions. So will check it out and see if it is worth the $8.49 for the full version.
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I think I will stick to the Forum, I don't think the App would be useful to me at all. I just wouldn't use it. I already have the MWOC book and even if I didn't I still don't think I would use this App. If anyone wants to check it out then download the Free App first before paying for it. (Glad I downloaded the free version first)
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I hav mwoc so wont bothe even with the free app. Doesnt seem worth the space on my ipad.
I love the forum, the recipes, the help, the jokes ( welli always laugh at my own), the friendship and its all FREE
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I love the forum, the recipes, the help, the jokes ( welli always laugh at my own), the friendship and its all FREE
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Couldnt agree more Hally
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I have downloaded it and already know I've wasted my money :( It's just not set up well, and is a bit fiddly to look through. I'm not impressed with it at all
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thats a shame Red Kell. It may improve with updates down the track hopefully.
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Mark Bittman's bestselling book "How to Cook Everything" is available in an app and costs $5.49 (US) for 2,000 recipes
Cool Amanda, I used enjoy reading his columns when NYTimes online was free. Love this forum :-*
The Thermomix app is tempting for obsessed fans like me but I don't think I've ever paid for an app yet, so frugal, except in the fancy blender department.
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people complain about the cost of the app but considering its an online version of the intl thx book which costs a hell of a lot more...i think its value for money...but the forum yes is more htan enough and i love this place but I just cant help get all the books and apps i can get my hands on!! each to their own but I wouldnt be complaining about the cost of the app...if you wanted that book then the app is good value..thats my opinon anyway :)
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I downloaded the app and have found it to be quite good.
I don't have the MWOC book so I have found it useful particularly when people on the forum refer to a recipe from MWOC, I can just look it up and make it based on the reviews from this forum.
I have to say that I agree that this forum is the best place to get ideas, reviews, recipes and support and I have made more things from recipes on here than I have made from any of the books I own, but the app is just an additional resource (that also costs a lot less than the book..and takes up less space)
Just my 2 cents worth
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I've had the app for a while, downloaded here in Germany and it is okay. I think it might be a little easier to use on an ipad, due to the larger size. Have to decide, other another TMX or an ipad. Tough decision!!!
xxx
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Are you kidding?? What is the issue - $8.49?? It is not an alternative to this forum or even to the MWOC cookbook... it’s moving into a whole new medium –how innovative! I'm not one of those people who can memorise recipes so I loovve being able to whip out my phone at the supermarket and check out all the ingredients needed for a certain dish. The features are great - you can plan a whole week’s menu and put together a shopping list, tick off the ingredients you already have in the kitchen, email that list (to your husband!) make notes on each recipe, watch videos of many being made – it is soo cool!
I’m really surprised at the bitterness – if it wasn’t for the hard work, dedication and passion of the company in Australia we wouldn’t be able to even buy the machine here... you’d have to import it from overseas with no customer service and all the cost and drama that would involve....
If you don’t like the fact that you have to have a demo (wow – what a hassle; invite a couple of friends to see this machine you’ve been raving to them about - have someone else cook your dinner?) to access some books - there are HEAPS of other books you can buy from head office. The books that are exclusively available through hosting a demo are there to help consultants grow their business...way to show support for your fellow Thermomix lovers who love it soo much they turned it into a business...
Would you rather just be able to go into Harvey Norman or Myer and buy your box and be done with it. Well buy a Thermochef then; they’re made in China and don’t have any iPhone apps or exclusive host only cookbooks... no cooking classes or after sales service either. Of course they probably won’t be around in a year or 2, but no matter, some other cheap replacement will probably pop up; then you can buy that!
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Gee, I bet you feel better having got that off your chest KylieJade.
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KylieJade
I think some people like myself havethe book, have an ipad, i have shop shop app (free) also have evernote app (free) take my ipad everywhere. I enjoy looking at my book and if i like the recipe the ingredients are already on my shop app, so i really dont need the app if it had new recipes it wouod be different. My shop app does everything the shopping part of tm app does. If i didnt have mwoc i would buy the app instead.
I love my tm and all accessories but nothing to do with the tm is cheap. My consultant is fantatstic any books ibwant i email her she orders and drops them over for me. I have nearly all the cookbooks.
Hally :) :)
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WOW!
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ooooo yes wow ....when it comes down to it yes everything thermomix is expensive when compared to similar items elsewhere but I understand the logic...look at Tupperware..;also expensive for what it is and you can buy alot of knock offs alot cheaper which wont last as long but you also have customer service and can change items for life which you cant with other type products and it is also a company that operates similarily and fix their prices...there are no sales or cutting of prices and thats what also keeps them around as well as the quality of the product for so many years...the entire package....re thermomix you wont get any other machine creating so many cookbooks for their product again as does Tupperware (or I have never seen one..alot come with a simple cookbook but not so many and constantly creating more)...i just got another three the other day...and they are good recipes too even if you dont use them in the Tupperware products and adapt them to other ways of cooking...think people need to look at it as not just another app but where its coming from...like KJ said even though her message was a little heated...its innovative and for that I agree...I downloaded the app and I have the book but think its not much for the moment (because I have the book already) but my consultant told me they plan to add to it or create other books in the same xay and I think once its more developed ie other recipes and not just this book it will be great....just another medium but not great on an iphone..too small imo...i do prefer cookbooks or my laptop (no ipad as yet lol)...peoples value for money is different and some want everything for nothing as well ...thats just life....in France some people wanted it for free...(shrugs) like I said different people, different views and its a bit naive to expect something like a product of Thermomix to be free..its never going to happen!! Like i said before if you DONT have the book and you arent addicted to cookbooks or cookbook apps lol like me then it is good value plus it has videos of some of the recipes and other options such as markig favs, shopping list and menu planner...compared to the price of the book which over here is 40 euros so the 5 it cost over here for the app is great value (as long as it doesnt end up with costly updates...unless they are adding new recipes??!!) :)
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The issue to me is that compared to other iPhone and iPad apps it is expensive. So if you are comparing apples with apples, it is an expensive app and you have to wonder why it is so dear? Because they think their target market is a niche market and that we will pay?
It will be an app killer if they charge for updates. Every app I have does free updates--I didn't even know that some apps charged!
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I'm going to have a play with the lite version. Will report back with whether or not I'd buy app.
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Well I bought the app. Do have the book but don't like it much. Pretty ordinary recipes. So why did I buy it ? I have to get used to this new technology and any thing that will teach this old dog new tricks is worth the small investment. I find this app very easy to use. What I don't understand about computer technology in general is why don't the app developers give some very basic instructs for idiots like me. For example if you wish to mark a favorite recipe in this app, you first have to score it 1 to 5 . I have oodles of cooking apps on the I Pad and they all are different. Each individual must decide for them selves what they want.
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well said chookie oh and I couldnt figure out how to add favs so thanks lol and Im quite used to technology and apps......see you know more than you think ;D
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No frozzie, I just kept pushing buttons :-)) :-)) :-))
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That usually gets you into more trouble Chookie ;D ;D
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Yes Judy, as you well know I have quite a lot floating around in outer space. :-))
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I am trying to decide weather to buy the app or not, I don't have the book and a lot of the recipes listed for the book seem to be double ups of ones I have in other books, then take out any with wheat and dairy I wonder how many new recipes I would have that I would use? As far as apps go this is really expensive! I have non TMX recipe apps with 1000's of recipes that are free! I don't usually pay for apps as there are so many great ones that are free but I did buy robogourmet due to thermomix addiction, it is the most i have ever spent on an app, it has free updates which is how I justify it.
I might wait and see, if it is to get free updates e.t.c and other 'books' added to it it may be worth the money but at the moment I cant see the shopping list and meal planner being of use if I cant add my own recipes to it, now if i could copy and paste recipes from elswhere into it, that would be a different story!
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haha chookie...whatever gets you there ;D
ahoney...maybe download the lite version which is free to check it out...its available in french so i imagine its also available in english...as far as the updates I have no idea if htey are charged or not......most updates are free but there are some apps that charge as friends have told me but all my apps are free updates for hte moment!
Like chookie said everyone needs to decide for themselves...we can all have our opinions but we are all different and like different things except thermie...I doubt you will be able to however to add different recipes into it..unless they add them or link somehow the apps lol!
anyway maybe try the lite version first!
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Was just trying the lite version of the Thermomix app, it's not bad (note. I don't have My Way Of Cooking book) though it def has some foibles. For instance re defining the behavior of taping on the left side of the recipe selector. If i tap on "Soup" or "Bread" or whatever then it should show me the available recipes rather than show me the highlighted recipe on the right hand side. That's basically counter to how most other apps work.
Also trying to swap between steps in landscape (particularly) and portrait isn't pleasant and it seems a lot of space is wasted (do I really need the ingredients visible in each step when in landscape?). The text is also small, yes. I can expand it by zooming but then I need to scroll around in a tiny box. I kind of like the page turning they've added in landscape mode but I wouldn't generally have the time to move it slowly enough to see.
It would be nice in future is they would provide menu packs like the Jamie Oliver app (don't have it but tried the demo) rather than an app per book, the problem with packs is there are often things you already have, can find here or just don't like but conversely you don't want to pay 0.99 for an individual recipe.
Regarding RoboGourmet I dislike one thing the dev has done there and created multiple versions of the same app, one for each language that app is available in. I don't understand why they have done it as you can support multiple languages in one app.
@Frozzie there isn't a mechanism really for doing paid upgrades beyond releasing a completely new app. In app purchasing can work to a degree but it only really works for existing users (where they have paid to unlock v2, v3 & v4 features) but breaks down when someone new gets the app. (do you really make them pay to unlock v2-4?)
@ahoney It's really not that expensive considering the effort that goes into the app, the artwork, photographie, video production, testing and so on. Yes other apps come with many many more recipes but how many of those are simply pinched from the net? The only downside of the success of the iPhone/iPad is that Apple has managed to devalue the worth of software (there are some pluses to this too).
Too many people now expect these apps to be $.99 or free or they complain about not getting their money's worth, that the app is too expensive and what not. Prices spiralled down quickly and now companies / indies need to rely on bulk selling to compensate for not being able to really sell for as much as a desktop version but to a more limited audience (hence the occasionally price drops to get Apps boosted up the charts, once up you raise the price back to normal). I suspect iOS users buy more apps than they ever would for the desktop :)
I'm guilty of it too at times, if there is an app I am on the fence about I tend to wait for it to be reduced in price and then grab it (AppShopper and notifications are useful for that).
Um I'll shut up now, sorry I'm both an avid iPhone/iPad user and signed up as a 3rd party Apple dev (Mac and iPhone/iPad) so I'm aware of the other side and how they could have done certain things.
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I guess the other thing holding me back is I don't have a lot of faith in the Thermomix cookbooks there seem to be so Many recipes that need tweaking or don't work out, when your paying for them you expect them to be tested!
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Are you using forum recipes more than those from books ahoney? You will certainly never run out of things to try if you are.
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Yes I have started using more forum recipes, can be a little annoying having to use my iPhone when the screen turns off though! Was using evernote but I don't understand it anymore ( can't find it on pc even though can clip to it, and can't work out how to clip from iPhone) something changed with updates and it's got me lost! I am using more and more quirky cooking recipes too as my boys are wheat and dairy free, now there's an app I'd be happy to pay for, she's so helpful! I guess I haunt heard the best reviews of Mwoc book either and have never seen it!
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APOLOGY!
We have two different apps available here in Germany. Just bought the NEW one and it is super! I didn't realise the new one WASN'T the one I already had.
Buy it!!!
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I don't have the MWOC cookbook and really love to get one. I just LOVE COOKBOOKS.
As for the app, I don't have the technology to use it. As I live in a rural area with limitd mobile phone reception, I am unsure how the technology with work out here.
I think perhaps both app and cookbook would be handy. I often forget to write down what I need on my shopping list and it would be good to be abe to look it up on the app, but it would never replacce the good old cookbook with pictures that are easy to use.
As for this forum, it is the best investment (in time only) that a thermie owner can make. I absolutely love looking at everyones wonderful recipes and I know it has been tested and successful. Also the friendships and knowledge you build along the way are priceless. I love you all, you are an inspirational thermie group xxxx
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Dizzy, you don't need to worry about your mobile reception. You could just get a wifi based iPad and even if you don't have a wifi router you obviously have a computer that you could sync the iPad with
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Well I finally got an iPhone.... yay it has a blue tick so work wells in the country. I love the apps especially the free one from NSW Dept of Education. Is the MWOC app the Thermomix app????
DG xxx
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Sorry for the late reply, yes it is.
BTW there was an update the other day adding 15 new recipes:
Foie gras with reduction of sweet wine sauce
Madrid style Stew
Ravioli with Sweet ricotta filling and lamb ragout
Turkey rolls with sweet-and-sour sauce
Salmon with salmon mousse stuffing and mango sauce
Swiss Cheese fondue
Bavarian cheese spread
Carrot cake with cream cheese frosting
Chestnuts in vanilla syrup
Choc coconut truffles
Fudge
Ovos moles chocolates (chocolates filled with egg fondant)
Buckwheat and barley sticks
Delicious nut and vanilla crescents
Rich chocolate cake