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Title: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Sonan on January 28, 2011, 04:36:34 am
HI breadgurus
Can someone tell me where I get fresh yeast from? Our health food store just looked at me blankly when I asked !  :-\
Do you think it is superior to dry yeast for the finished product and nutritionally?
Thanks
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: cookie1 on January 28, 2011, 06:26:13 am
I like using fresh yeast but it is very hard to get. Some people have been able to get it from their local bakers or health food shops.  Someone suggested getting it from a brewing place. I buy it when I see it but otherwise use dry yeast. I don't think it makes much difference.
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Sonan on January 28, 2011, 08:15:47 am
aahhh the bakery - never thought of that  :P
Thanks Cookie !
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Nik2WIN on January 28, 2011, 10:39:01 am
Personally I prefer to use fresh yeast, apparently it gives a better taste, and I like to mimic the bakery process as much as possible.  Here in the UK I found a supplier through Ebay (is there nothing you can buy through Ebay) who was good but I've found a local bakery who can also supply me and, although I've not used them yet (I pick it up this afternoon), I would imagine that the yeast would be fresher.

Picking up fresh yeast once a fortnight is going to be something of a fag though, might have to bite the bullet and start freezing it.  I also have a packet of dried for those times when it all goes awry ...

Nik
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: BimbyPT on January 28, 2011, 10:55:04 am
Here in Portugal the big supermarkets sell fresh yeast in small packs (2 cubes of 25g each). I only use half for a loaf with 500g of flour, so I freeze the other half.
I have the dry one too just in case, but I prefer the fresh one.
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Cornish Cream on January 28, 2011, 11:34:12 am
Nik if you have a Tesco's near you they will sell you fresh yeast.Just go to the bakery section ask one of the bakery staff and they will get it for you.It use to be free but now they charge you.Last time they charged me 20p for 100g.
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Nik2WIN on January 28, 2011, 11:52:47 am
There was me thinking you were a lovely person Cornish Cream giving me just the right answer on kneading capacity then you go and ruin it by talking about TESCO!!   ;D ;D

DH comes from a farming background and Tesco are notorious for being vile to their suppliers.  Of course, in a few years time Tesco's will be the only shop left - it will also be our bank/insurance company/travel agent/opticians etc.

They're marginally better than Asda/Wallmart but I really, really try to avoid them when I can

Nik

Damn this soapbox is high - can anyone help me get off  :-))

Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Cornish Cream on January 28, 2011, 12:00:51 pm
There was me thinking you were a lovely person Cornish Cream giving me just the right answer on kneading capacity then you go and ruin it by talking about TESCO!!   ;D ;D

DH comes from a farming background and Tesco are notorious for being vile to their suppliers.  Of course, in a few years time Tesco's will be the only shop left - it will also be our bank/insurance company/travel agent/opticians etc.

They're marginally better than Asda/Wallmart but I really, really try to avoid them when I can

Nik

Damn this soapbox is high - can anyone help me get off  :-))
Sorry Nik, I will wash my mouth out with soap :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Ceejay on January 28, 2011, 12:41:01 pm


Damn this soapbox is high - can anyone help me get off  :-))



 :D :D :D

I would... but I'm probably too short! ;)
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: judydawn on January 28, 2011, 12:43:57 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   Nik, there must be something else you can say whilst you are stuck up there. We are all listening  :D
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Katya on January 28, 2011, 03:08:28 pm

Damn this soapbox is high - can anyone help me get off  :-))


Hope there's enough room on that box for 2 - I'm on my way up to join you.   I am not a great fan (and that's being very polite  :D) of Tescos - haven't shopped there for years.   Waitrose for me every time.
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Nik2WIN on January 28, 2011, 08:27:18 pm
 Waitrose for me every time.

Oooh yes Waitrose all the way, although time is a little short so I generally use Ocado but I'm aware that not everyone can afford Waitrose/Ocado but they do, do a Tesco price match on an awful lot of things

Nik

Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Frozzie on January 29, 2011, 07:24:27 am
in france fresh yeast is also sold in the big supermarkets but in 40g cubes and is readily available but during my holiday in oz to see my family i couldnt find it anywhere but then again i never approached a bakers which is probably the best bet when its not available in stores!!  Ive never looked as its always been readily available here but sometimes when you cant find hard to find items its easier online...same goes for cooking equipment...online...speciality stores arent always that easy to find either but there are heaps online...never know if you dont try i guess re fresh yeast!

Personally i prefer fresh yeast and i guess its like anything fresh vs dehydrated..have to believe fresh wins hands down everytime but if you cant get it then dehydrated is fine!!

 :)
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Zan on January 29, 2011, 10:14:36 pm


Oooh yes Waitrose all the way, although time is a little short so I generally use Ocado but I'm aware that not everyone can afford Waitrose/Ocado but they do, do a Tesco price match on an awful lot of things

Nik


Teach me to skim read whilst making breakfast, think combined with the soap box/height comments I read this as "although I am a little short so I generally use Ocado" - was trying to work out if Waitrose had esp high shelves or something so you had to order online, rofpmsl!!!
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Nik2WIN on January 30, 2011, 11:01:12 am
Teach me to skim read whilst making breakfast, think combined with the soap box/height comments I read this as "although I am a little short so I generally use Ocado" - was trying to work out if Waitrose had esp high shelves or something so you had to order online, rofpmsl!!!
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I caught up on my sleep last night (interrupted a couple of times but had about 12 hours!!) so I'm a bit woolly this morning.  Nevertheless, this made me smile :)  Waitrose is usually full of little old ladies and I can just imagine them jumping for the high shelves ....

Picked up my fresh yeast on Friday - its great and ridiculously cheap.  I bought it from a bakery/delicatessan and I think a fortnightly trip there will be one of life's little pleasures ... :)

Nik
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Zan on January 30, 2011, 11:07:24 am
LOL Nik, I hardly every shopped in Waitrose, never had a local so I really was trying to remember (all I could think of was dh's favourite - read expensive - jars of things on the top shelves, lol).
Just seeing the old ladies jumping around the store.
Waitrose and Ocado have certainly grown in the last 5 years, ocado was just started and not everywhere and there is now a waitrose in marylebone - when I lived there I had to go to a horrid Safeways on Edgeware Road or Selfridges food hall, lol.
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: timfulford on February 08, 2011, 05:27:57 pm
Morrisons sell it!  Four small blocks for under a £1 or search for it on Ebay its really easy to find.  Tip: dried or fresh? how much is needed?  if recipe calls for 7g fresh then 3.5g of fresh does the same job and visa versa.
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Nik2WIN on March 02, 2011, 10:11:55 am
Just to add something to the debate here.  The original post asked if fresh yeast was superior to dry and since most of us always use one or the other it was all a bit of heresay.

I nearly always use fresh but being without a car I've had to raid my stash of dry as there is nowhere that I can walk to that sells fresh yeast.  I often make a starter/sponge or use a bit of yesterday's dough to add to the flavour.  I've done the same with my dry yeast and whilst there doesn't seem to be any difference at all in the rising performance when I used my old dough I took the lid of to give it a good sniff of that lovely fermenty yeasty smell and there was ..... nothing! nada! not a whiff.  The bread is OK but not great and I'm used to making great bread ;)

I'm afraid I was straight onto ebay to get some fresh yeast.  I shall be keeping a "stash" of fresh yeast in the freezer from now on!  As an aside, advice is to keep yeast in the fridge for up to 2 weeks.  I tend to take off what I'm like to use this week and put the rest in the back of the fridge.  I find that way, you're not taking it in and out all the time and the stuff at the back lasts for at least 3 weeks.

Nik
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Cuilidh on March 02, 2011, 07:50:48 pm
Tip: dried or fresh? how much is needed?  if recipe calls for 7g fresh then 3.5g of fresh does the same job and visa versa.

I am assuming there is a small typo there - is it meant to read 7g DRIED = 3.5g FRESH?  Could someone clarify it for me.

Thanks
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: judydawn on March 02, 2011, 11:18:05 pm
There is something wrong with those quantities Cuilidh.  I understand 20g fresh = 7g dried.  Comments from others please.
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: cookie1 on March 03, 2011, 06:06:27 am
I'm with you judy.
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Frozzie on March 03, 2011, 06:35:23 am
Me too .. Believe thats thé standard conversion between thé two  :)
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Cuilidh on March 03, 2011, 08:06:36 am
Thanks for clarifying that for me everyone.
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Katya on March 03, 2011, 08:39:51 am
You've inspired me Nik.  I never realised you could get fresh yeast off the internet but I've now ordered a batch which should arrive today.   I'll be freezing it in batches and will be interested to see how my standard loaf comes out using fresh as opposed to dried.

Thanks  :-* :-*

 
Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Nik2WIN on March 03, 2011, 08:52:52 am
You've inspired me Nik.  I never realised you could get fresh yeast off the internet but I've now ordered a batch which should arrive today.   I'll be freezing it in batches and will be interested to see how my standard loaf comes out using fresh as opposed to dried.

Thanks  :-* :-*

 

If you have a good bakery near you its much better to get it from there as it won't have done 24/48 hours in the postal system!  I still prefer it to dried yeast, but then I can tell the difference between Gordon's Gin and Hendricks ....   :-))

Nik

Title: Re: Fresh yeast vs Dry yeast
Post by: Shayla on May 14, 2011, 09:18:37 am
I use fresh yeast all the time at home for making my bread - rule of thumb is that only 1% - 2% of flour weight required - ie 500gm flour 5gm or 10gm fresh yeast; I don't usually even bother to weigh it just use a chunk. I store my fresh yeast in the freezer and defrost it in the warm water or milk used for making the loaf. Here in South Africa all the large supermarkets with their own bakery sell it by weight and is much cheaper than the dried packets - R36 per kilo as opposed to R2.50 for a 10g packet. Having said all that when I do demos I use the packets of yeast as that is what most people are used to seeing. I think the taste is much better using fresh but the rising etc doesn't seem to differ whichever is used. I always have a few packets of the dried in case I run out of fresh.