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Questions Doubts and Requests => Recipe Requests => Topic started by: MeganL on December 16, 2010, 10:43:16 am
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Anyone know how to make a vegemite substitute? My kids love it, but it has some nasties in it. I have tried to avoid it, but just keep coming back to it! Would love to be able to figure out how to make something similar. I love the home made peanut butter. Haven't tried the hazelnut spread as I'd prefer not to introduce that to my kids!!
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I have the same problem! I really want to ditch it out of the house ... but even I am a sucker for some vegemite on toast ... even with some cheese, or on corn thins with avocado and cheese .. the list goes on really. Don't have it that often, but is hard to replace for some things!!!! ;) ;)
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I dont know how to make vegemite, but our local organic market stocks an alternative called Aussiemite
http://www.aussiemite.com.au/index.html
It tastes just like vegemite - if anything a little bit stronger, so you can use less! It is Australian made, GM free, organic etc etc ........ the website may give more information, and tell you how you can get it.
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Thanks kjh I have just sent them an email about stockist in Perth. We still have vegemite in our house too. It is the one thing I buy that I know has 'nasties' in it. I would love to try an alternative :)
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I was googling for the ingredients (http://www.salagram.net/Marmite-Vegemite.html) and found something here: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/harvest/msg0909520916396.html
RE: looking for Marmite like spread with zuchinni. Found this. I guess you could make up your own bouillon paste:
MarVeg
1/2 tsp molasses
1 Tbs rice syrup
1 tsp Better Than Bouillon (bouillon paste), vegetable flavor
2 Tbs nutritional yeast flakes (or 1 Tbs powder)
Mix all ingredients well.
Store in a small jar in fridge.
NOTE: If Better Than Bouillon is not available, use miso.
Or here's a recipe I have for making your own Vegemite. I've never tried it:
Home-made Vegemite
1 dessertspoon celery salt
2 teaspoons tomato juice
2 teaspoons onion juice
125g compressed yeast
parisian essence to colour
Mince yeast and place in a saucepan, add remaining ingredients. Bring gently to the boil and simmer for 15 minutes, stirring constantly. Pour into small jars and seal.
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Aarrgghhhh!!!!!! This thread may have just ruined my Christmas... "We're happy little vegemites..."
Oh please don't tell me what the nasties are... I am playing ostrich on this one and keeping my head firmly in the sand.
"We love our vegemite, we all enjoy our vegemite..." (breathing deeply and *not* reading the label)
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I will see if I can catch up with a friend and ask her for the "vegemite" she used to make. The bulk was tahini, then she added brewer's yeast, apple cider vinegar and not sure what else. It was very healthy and very tasty. I don't think it was the same colour by memory. I'm hoping to talk to her today anyway and will ask for recipe.
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We just use miso instead, when we're being good! ;) Before that we were using 'Mighty Mite' which is gf, but still has some nasties, so hardly ever have it now. Miso isn't too bad a substitute - and it's a probiotic too, so it's very good for you!
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I have never heard of miso, is it a paste? Or do you use it to add to recipes...
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Yes, it's a black paste made from fermenting either brown rice, soybeans, sweet rice, barley, mix of barley and rice... not sure what else... there's all different types, with different names. (Genmai, Hacho, Shiro, etc) You can add it to soups and cooking (at the end so it doesn't boil and lose all it's goodness) for flavour. Have you heard of Miso soup? A very light soup - really nice. It's got a lot of probiotics, so vegans use it for that (and for flavour) instead of eating yoghurt. I can't have yoghurt, being dairy free, so it's good to get some probiotics in this way. :)
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Quirkycooking do you use the above recipe and use miso instead of the other ingredient - or do you just use miso on its own? I'm confused... ???
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I just use miso on its' own as a spread :)
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Just bumping this thread!
Did you try Aussiemite Meagan? Where do you buy Miso from? Has anyone else converted from vegemite to a healthier alternative? When I went to see Cyndi O'Meara recently she said that vegemite has been banned from sale in a European country because of it's nasty ingredients. We don't have vegemite very much but we do love our cheese and vegemite scrolls. I would love to find a tasty alternative.
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I was going to see if there was such thing as 'homemade Vegemite' on this forum because I just ran out. Please tell me the nasties in Vegemite, I love the stuff!
I'm sure there's a lot worse out there to eat, if we're banning things I'd ban Black & Gold Meat Pies for starters, and Coke, and kids cereals, and cheap chicken nuggets, and McDonalds, OK I'll stop now.
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Yes i'm also keen to know if this works/is edible. We have just bought the children's version which is ok now I'm used to it. We only have the tiniest amount occassionally in our house. But try to steer clear of any preservatives/colours if we can.
As a side note: Chelsea I have just discovered your blog and was reading it for hours last night (and will probably go back again tonight to look at the rest!) - I love the way you write it and I hope to try a lot of your recipes soon (especially the prawn risotto). Thanks Alison
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Thanks Alison. I'm glad you enjoyed reading it. You must try the prawn risotto very soon. Yummo!!! :)
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Cyndi ought to be more careful about what she repeats - this is how rumours start.
Vegemite (or Marmite) have NOT been banned in Denmark, contrary to some reports. The only reason they cannot currently be sold is that any food with added vitamins needs to have special licence and sales of Vegemite in Denmark are so low no-one has bothered to apply for the licence. This regulation is to prevent some unhealthy products being marketed as healthy ones because of added vitamins - Vitamin Water springs to mind here.
So stay calm and put on some toast! ;) ;D
Just bumping this thread!
Did you try Aussiemite Meagan? Where do you buy Miso from? Has anyone else converted from vegemite to a healthier alternative? When I went to see Cyndi O'Meara recently she said that vegemite has been banned from sale in a European country because of it's nasty ingredients. We don't have vegemite very much but we do love our cheese and vegemite scrolls. I would love to find a tasty alternative.
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Here's the link from the Danish ministry of Food explaining -http://www.uk.foedevarestyrelsen.dk/ImportExport/Legislation_on_import_of_food/Marmite_not_banned_in-Denmark.htm
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Thanks for that Amanda. Cyndi really should be more careful what she says at her talks. I would still like to find a healthier alternative to vegemite though (based on its ingredients) so if anyone could help that would be great. :)
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Have fixed the link for you Amanda
http://www.uk.foedevarestyrelsen.dk/ImportExport/Legislation_on_import_of_food/Marmite_not_banned_in-Denmark.htm (http://www.uk.foedevarestyrelsen.dk/ImportExport/Legislation_on_import_of_food/Marmite_not_banned_in-Denmark.htm)
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Oops, thanks Judy.
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I was a bit worried so checked out the label.
Ingredients: Yeast extract (from yeast grown on barley), salt, mineral salt (508 = sodium chloride), malt extract (from barley), colour (150c = caramel), flavours, niacin, thiamine, riboflavin, folate.
That's not too bad as far as processed food goes, but would be interested in a close copy if one can be found.
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Just bumping this thread!
Did you try Aussiemite Meagan? Where do you buy Miso from? Has anyone else converted from vegemite to a healthier alternative? When I went to see Cyndi O'Meara recently she said that vegemite has been banned from sale in a European country because of it's nasty ingredients. We don't have vegemite very much but we do love our cheese and vegemite scrolls. I would love to find a tasty alternative.
Chelsea yes I did try it. Karen very kindly sent a jar to me as I had hardly any help from my website enquiry about stockists in WA. DH and ds4 were not happy with it. Ds2 didn't notice the difference. I thought it was ok reminded me of marmite a bit. So we haven't continued with it.
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I've just spoken to a friend of mine who is a nutritionist and a chef about this. She says there are no nasties in vegemite and it's biggest villain is the salt content. (Probably I why I like it!)
They have remedied this by introducing a children's version which is much lower in salt.
I think it is called MY First Vegemite - so we can all keep eating our national spread!
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Amanda what about the caramel 150?
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"The International Programme on Chemical Safety (IPCS) has concluded that commercially-produced caramel color has the same toxicological properties as caramel produced by cooking or heating sucrose, except for those prepared using ammonium (Class III and IV). Despite some claims that caramel is toxic or carcinogenic, or leads to intestinal problems,[5] the IPCS has found no evidence of carcinogenicity or mutagenicity in its extensive studies. Though one should note that it says: "Side effects: Side effects are manifested from the use of E150c and E150d, where intestinal problems may occur after ingestion of large amounts. Due to the complex nature of the mixtures, toxicology tests are still being carried out.". And now California lists it as a carcinogen."
I have always advocated moderation in all things, so I guess it all depends on how far one wants to take things. I love roasted veggies - the roasting process caramelises the sugars in them & intensifies the flavours, so I wouldn't stop doing that. It is absolutely impossible to eliminate every possible or probable dangerous ingredient or process from our food.
Remember, the mortality rate from breathing is 100%.
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Yes I agree in the moderation bit. I was brought up with vegemite and I can't let it go :-\ I justified it as one of the few things we have at home that is processed and has colour/additive in it.
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But no one has a recipe? I die of curiosity to taste Vegemite and have no access to it around here >:(
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Thanks so much Amanda - it was the caramel 150 that bothered me also. We will stick with vegemite in moderation.
Thanks also Meagan. We aren't fans of marmite so won't try the Aussiemite. :)
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Don't get too excited about it - it is very much an acquired taste and the large majority of those not brought up on it seem to really hate it!
Those of us who were brought up on it generally can't live without it. I was in Italy and France for 3 1/2 weeks a couple of years ago and didn't take any as I thought I could go without for that time. By the time we got home I was pining for it and will remember to take it next time. :)
But no one has a recipe? I die of curiosity to taste Vegemite and have no access to it around here >:(
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I think the biggest issue with vegemite is the yeast extract. My understanding that it is extremely high in glutamates which is basically msg. But probably check out the Sue Dengate or other websites for a more scientific reason (sorry don't have the time at the minute to look myself i have a small window to check web while my boys are strapped in a highchair eating!)
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Yeast extract is often associated with MSG. I read up on the yeast extract yesterday and I don't think it is an issue in vegemite as it contains free glutamates (there are lot's of "vegemite and MSG" articles online).