Forum Thermomix

Thermomix Recipes for TM5 and TM31 => Starters and Snacks => Topic started by: scyrene on November 29, 2010, 12:12:50 pm

Title: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: scyrene on November 29, 2010, 12:12:50 pm
Chicken Stock Concentrate
Ingredients:
One chicken carcass, or equivalent in bones
Two medium carrots, washed and roughly chopped
One onion, peeled and roughly chopped
One or two sticks of celery, washed and roughly chopped
Half a dozen black peppercorns
A bayleaf (optional)


Preparation:
Put the ingredients into the steaming basket - you may have to press down to fit them all in (the carcass will crush into a fairly tight space) - and even then, the lid may only just fit (but it will!).
Put the basket into the jug, and pour in water to come up about halfway into the bowl (i.e. to the top fill level in the jug, but obviously it'll be less than 2 litres, as some of the volume is taken up by ingredients).
Put the jug onto the machine base, and fix the lid - try to press the measuring cup into the hole, but don't worry if it doesn't fit properly - as the meat and vegetables cook, they'll soften and break up, taking up less space.
Set the machine to 100ºC, 30 mins, speed around 2.
After this time, lower the temperature to 90ºC, and set it again for 60 mins, same speed.
Then, remove the basket carefully (using the spatula as a handle), making sure all the liquid drains into the jug.
Reset the machine, without the measuring cap on, to 70ºC, speed 4, for 60 mins.
Check the amount of liquid remaining - the smaller the volume, the more concentrated it is, but you don't want it to boil dry. I'd stick it on for another 30 mins minimum, same speed and temp as the previous step. You are aiming for no more than a couple of cups of liquid at the end (rather less than 500ml I'd say), but it's a matter of taste.
Pour through a sieve into a jug or bowl, leave to cool.
Once cool, place in the fridge, preferably overnight.
Any fat will have risen to the surface and solidified (it does not set hard, more like softened butter). This will separate off from the stock, which should have set into a jelly.

Tips/Hints:
I'd been making stock in my TM for a while, before it occurred to me it would be the perfect device for concentrating it down. The combination of relatively low temperature and high speed means the water evaporates without the flavours becoming too caramelised or even burned.
You can add salt to taste, once the stock has been strained, but it is not essential.
If you use a previously-roasted carcass, you'll get much less fat, but it will still taste good. The fat can be used for softening onions, or in Jewish cooking, or for roasting potatoes.
Other vegetables can be substituted - fennel, celeriac, a few mushrooms, kohl rabi, etc. If you happen not to have onion, try shallots, or leek, or even spring onions or chives (if you're desperate!).
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Nay-nay on November 29, 2010, 12:18:28 pm
Thanks - this looks easy  :) - I need to try something new but have got into habit of just making vege stock.   :-))
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: cookie1 on November 30, 2010, 04:09:21 am
I only make vegie stock too. This looks easy though.  I will have to fight my DH for the next chicken carcass before he gets to pull it apart and eat all the leftover bits.
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Zan on November 30, 2010, 10:06:44 am
Thanks so much for this. I make chicken stock (liquid) most weeks (we have bbq chicken for mother's group and even if I don't host I bring the carcass home, lol) but don't always have a need for it but this is a great idea, so I don't have a big jug of stock sitting in the fridge.
I guess you then freeze it?
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Katya on November 30, 2010, 10:13:44 am
Thanks for this - it looks a lot easier and more authentic than the chicken stock recipe in the F & E book which I did try but didn't like.

Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Maluhia on December 21, 2010, 08:37:08 am
Mine is cooking now in my TMX I've owned for less than 24 hours :)

I used 8 chicken necks instead of a carcass as they can be purchased at my butcher for 20 cents each and I did not need to worry about crushing the carcass into the basket.  Smells great so far.....
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Zan on December 21, 2010, 10:24:30 am
Oh and don't forget to reset the temperature and have a waste of an hours cooking  :D
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: judydawn on December 28, 2010, 06:06:51 am
I've got this on the go at the moment, the house smells lovely.  I've used my turkey carcass, or what I could fit in of it. Limited space in my freezer so thought this was a great idea. When I come to use it, can anybody tell me how much water I would add to reconstitute it to a nice, flavoursome stock eg 1 part stock to 3 parts water or more water maybe?
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Zan on December 28, 2010, 06:23:22 am
Judy I was thinking just whatever it had reduced by - mine wasn't as reduced as I wanted so about 1 part to 5 of water I'd say.
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: judydawn on December 28, 2010, 06:30:43 am
Thanks Zan.  I could have reduced mine down a bit more too but after 2 hours, I just wanted the procedure to finish and give my TMX a rest  :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: bindirigo80 on February 02, 2011, 07:51:55 am
Hi all, was just wondering how long this stock keeps in the fridge?? Or is it best frozen, I made a quadruple batch today (not in the thermo obviously) as i found the bag of chicken carcasses had 4, not the 2 i was expecting, nice surprise, but couldn't do it in the thermo, so its all boiling away on the stove atm, and seeing as i'm going to have a rather alot of stock concentrate I was trying to think of the best way to preserve it. I'm presuming it doesn't keep the way the veg stock conc does as there is no salt to preserve it. Any tips are much appreciated, cheers!!

PS this is my first post, i should probably go to the 'introduce yourself' page and do just that!!!

Thanks in advance!! ;D
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Zan on February 02, 2011, 08:20:33 am
Hi, I froze mine - it's the same as fresh concentrate so only would keep for a few days.
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: nix on June 14, 2011, 03:00:50 am
Thanks - just made this as Ihave newborn bubs and don't want to use store bought stock. Very easy.
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: HARPER on May 03, 2012, 01:33:48 am
HAS anyone got reviews on this stock?
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: judydawn on May 03, 2012, 01:50:00 am
Harper, I froze mine in heaped tablespoon quantities then just threw 1 or 2 in to different dishes here and there.  Could not really say it boosted the flavour and since I've made the chicken stock powder from Tenina's For Food Sake, now know which one I will be using.  An example of the difference for you - I just made a cup of broth from each recipe using a tablespoon of each and the powder, although it is much darker than normal chicken stock, wins hands down - it is so flavoursome and when you make it you can see why.  Others may care to comment if they have made both. Tenina's stock powder is my favourite.
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: jakodai on May 03, 2012, 07:07:01 am
Judy, sorry I'm having a bit of 'blonde' day and I couldn't really follow your post, can you please clarify which one you preferred...?
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: judydawn on May 03, 2012, 07:50:28 am
 ;D ;D I knew what I meant jakodai, sorry I have now made it clearer on my last posting.  Tenina's is my favourite.
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: jakodai on May 03, 2012, 08:28:32 am
That's OK, Judy - I'm much the same. My brain is normally going a million miles an hour, and my fingers struggle to catch up. Thank you for clarifying... :-)
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: HARPER on May 04, 2012, 12:58:54 am
Is there a recipe for that on here somewhere?
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: judydawn on May 04, 2012, 01:12:46 am
No unfortunately Harper but check out Tenina's book here (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=8870.0).
Mothers' Day is coming up, perhaps you can put it on your wish list ;)  It is a great book, a must have for Thermomix owners.
Title: Re: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Lilli33 on June 29, 2012, 03:04:06 am
Hey JD, an just about to make the dry powder from FFS. She doesn't mention whether I take the meat off and just dry out the carcass and the skin ( plus vege) but she later says take as much flesh from the carcass... As in the bits that are left, or do I add the whole carcass with flesh and remove skin...? (http://img.tapatalk.com/b6efecb6-0d2a-f3ed.jpg)

I'll add my Veges now too? Confused. :)
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: judydawn on June 29, 2012, 03:11:23 am
I just break up a roasted chicken carcass after having kept the skin for the stock powder and taking off most of the meat Lilli. You place the vegies in and around the carcass and skin - try not to pile them up too much, the flatter the better.  I keep an eye on things and remove anything that is completely dry and isn't getting too burnt.  The onion will brown and dry up first so remove anything from the tray as you find they are dry enough otherwise things will burn and the end product will taste burnt and not be a success.  I find there isn't any meat to speak of to remove from the carcass at the end but if you've left meat on it, remove that and blitz it when the recipe says. DO NOT mince the bones.  I keep mine in the freezer.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Lilli33 on June 29, 2012, 03:18:30 am
Ok. So I do remove 'most' of the meat.
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Lilli33 on June 29, 2012, 03:23:08 am
Thanks JD. Will remove Veges as I go. Not sure what I do with the carcass. Is the chicken flav from the skin and residual meat?
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: judydawn on June 29, 2012, 10:01:48 am
Lilli, my carcass is usually one from a chicken I have either roasted or steamed myself and I tend to remove all the meat for us to eat. Why the carcass is roasted is not that clear to me - last time I didn't even bother looking for any meat on it but I suppose if you do leave a bit on it for this purpose, it is mainly the meat and skin plus the flavour of the roasted, dried vegies and other additions which give it the lovely flavour.  My second batch was better than my first - I think it takes a while to work this method out and it is quite time consuming, maybe a couple of hours to dry everything out so you are continually opening the oven door to check that things aren't burning.
Title: Re: Chicken Stock Concentrate
Post by: Lilli33 on June 30, 2012, 04:08:54 am
Thanks JD. I bought a small roast chook yest for $5.95 or something. Took off loosely the meat, so there was still a bit there on purpose and I dried out a little extra. Once I had the skin onion and whatever other stuff was dry. I minced it all and put it back in. This helped speed it up as it was all small and the same iykwim. Turned out great. Looks like bought stuff but I know exactly what's there.

The juice from the bottom of the bag I even reduced in the oven then poured it over the shredded vege to dry out on them. ended up with 415 gms. Must have dried less vege than you JD but that's heaps!!! I was wrapped!