Forum Thermomix
Questions Doubts and Requests => Tips and Tricks => Topic started by: brazen20au on January 01, 2009, 11:39:15 pm
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i need to buy some new bakeware so i can have some gluten-free only stuff. i'm tired of crappy cheapo stuff and want to buy some things that will last for the next 30 years...
what's the best bakeware for making breads, cakes, slices, muffins etc?
oh and i DON'T want anything with teflon-type non-stick surfaces :-X
thanks!
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Seems like a lot of folks suggest going to a restaurant supply house and getting heavy weight aluminum. You should also check this evaluation at Cooks Illustrated http://www.cooksillustrated.com/equipment/overview.asp?docid=10304 (http://www.cooksillustrated.com/equipment/overview.asp?docid=10304) and http://www.cooksillustrated.com/equipment/overview.asp?docid=10354 (http://www.cooksillustrated.com/equipment/overview.asp?docid=10354). You may have to sign in for a free 14 day eval to see the results.....
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hmmm i'm also not keen on aluminium either! (or is it 'lined' so the aluminium never comes in contact with the food?)
thanks for that link though!
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Scanpan makes some bakeware and they don't use Teflon. I believe that their non-stick is safe to use and the pans are solid and good quality.
An interesting point I learned last year was not to use aerosol spray oil on pans. The propellant in the aerosol cans is actually propane or butane and damages the finish on cookware.
What it does to humans is anyone's guess! ???
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I'd suggest glass then... pyrex or corningware.
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BTW, I have several of the silicone pans, and wouldn't really recommend them. They're flimsy, not as non-stick as advertised, and I didn't like the results.
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ugh this is proving hard.
i went into our local cookware shop this morning and they recommended some tins - they had teflon. then when i said no teflon they said the chicago metallic ones, which i have just found are coated in aluminium (mixed with something or other). so scratch them.
then another lady recommended the silicone which i do have some of, and i'm with you UC, i don't think they're that great (and the brand she recommended is one i already have)
i checked out scanpan and the only bakeware (ie: cake, bread & muffin tins) they seem to have are silicone.
i'm getting nowhere fast with googling ??? :'(
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might be pricey.... but how about the All Clad gold stuff... Meets all your requirements :)
There is a short discussion here.... http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/cookware/msg0821280029087.html
Jelly Roll Pan - http://www.monstermarketplace.com/Home/Landing265a1041.html
Loaf Pan - http://www.monstermarketplace.com/Home/Landing265a1042.html
Rectangular Cake Pan - http://www.homewarehouseusa.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1040
Square Cake Pan - http://www.homewarehouseusa.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1038
Round Cake Pan - http://www.homewarehouseusa.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1039
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hmmm thanks for that! i'm not sure i would be "allowed" to spend that much though i do love the look of them! (i know, i'm being a pain aren't i?!) i think i'll just buy some cheap silicone bits to get me through until i can decide what to buy for the long term... lol ::)
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Karen, have you looked at Analon? I'm not sure what surface they use, but the pans are hard anodised something or other. I have had a couple of them and they were fairly good.
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are they the same as circulon? if so yes, we have the frypan but my sister has told me it's also a teflon-like surface (ie: one i'd prefer to avoid). life is so much easier when you are ignorant LOL!
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life is so much easier when you are ignorant LOL!
Ain't that the truth !!! I don't have much of an idea, except to agree with Wareen about the soft silicon pans/trays - they are OK, but don't hold their shape with loaves etc.
Sorry, not much help.
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Karen anything with a non stick Titanium coating is ideal if it is non stick you are worried about. Titianium is metallic and as it is heated expands thus sealing the surface completely. Resembles non stick but as I said, metallic. Demeyere pans are the cats whiskers and only available at Kleenmaid in OZ but can be purchased on line at Amazon and the like. Not too many actual bread tins or whatever though, more cooktop type cookware
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Hey Karen, how about these?
http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Gourmet%20Standard%20Square%20Cake%20Pan%20-%20Stainless%20Steel:2003503576;_ylt=Aoedk5wDeYQXfAOfwapZ6SX_nbsF?clink=dmss//ctx=sc:449,c:449,mid:63,pid:2003503576,pdid:63,pos:0
http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Gourmet%20Standard%20BW40152%20Stainless%20Steel%20Bakeware:2003239460;_ylt=AitFtjdYKdY_xKgBVDUwD4z_nbsF?clink=dmss//ctx=sc:449,c:449,mid:63,pid:2003239460,pdid:63,pos:1
https://www.kitchenworksinc.com/itemDetail/23388/8.5%22-X-4.5%22-STAINLESS-STEEL-BREAD-PAN
Stainless isn't the best for baking due to the shinny sides and bottom (won't brown the same), but it's the only other alternative.
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thanks guys, i'm becoming overwhelmed LOL i have to strike quick while the the credit card is available so will need to try to decide soon lol!
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Hi Karen,
I too am fed up cheap bakeware which rusts first time through the dishwasher - and I don't want teflon or aluminium either! And yet my other requirement is that they must be dishwasher proof as well - don't like my chances...
So what did you decide/buy in the end, if anything?
Cheers,
Catherine :)
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The Romans have been cooking with clay for mileniums of years, why not look at Romertophs (don't know how to spell it). Very healthy cooking using claypots and steam cooking. Very delicious way of cooking, and when you wake up in the morning the food has a thick layer of jel in the fridge) which is to my way of thinking means that meal is extremely nutritious.
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Thanks creampuff - romertopfs is terric cookwear so thanks for the reminder.
Although I'm more thinking about oven baking trays, decent friand trays, cake tins etc.
Any other ideas?
Cheers
Catherine
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I like Silicon bakeware - have bread "tins" quiche dish trays etc. Freeform bread is always good - plaits cobs etc and paper or silicon can be used for fairy cakes.
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i obught one proper bread tin of unknown brand and then couldn't afford anything else lol
so nothing ;)
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What about glassware like they have here www.greenurlife.com.au
or the stuff like le creuset (rather expensive)
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great link, thanks sundari!
hey did you see that sigg water bottles have bpa in them? ???
ummm i would love some le creuset... one day...
does anyone know if the other version is just as good? le chasseur
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Re BPA in Sigg yes and I have 3 of them that I have to replace. Looking at the klean kanteen bottles From the store I linked to
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i have alot of pyrex, corningweare, and silicon.
But with silicon its pays to buy a better quality, not the cheap ones.
happy cooking.
Robyn
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i'm finding that generally silicone is better to cook gluten free in (other than GF bread) though i sort of agree - my pyrex silicone is crap compared to the tupperware but my aldi stuff (ultra cheap) is fabulous!!
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I like Pampered Chef stoneware. I'm not sure, if it's available in Australia ???
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Brazen,I am in the same quandry needing a new loaf pan for bread. I too am sick of the crapola and some expensive crapola at that Let us know what you decide. Next time I am near a bakery shop i will inquire about the tins they use. All my other cookware is Scanpan which I love an have had for years which I bought from Peters Of Kensington in Sydney.
Gretchen
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Gretchen i ended up getting a bread tin at a local kitchen wholesalers, no idea what brand it is but it's fantastic!
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Good idea. I am going to go to a couple of chef's outlets here. Looked on line and saw the Chicago Metallic commercial brand which looks reasonable but it costs nearly as much to post as it does to buy so will see if anyone here has one.
Let me know how yours works. How much did you pay for it?
Thanks,
Gretchen
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mine is a slightly smaller size than you'd probably buy for "rea" bread and cost me about $24-26
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I had things to do so sent DH on a mission to Bakery and Catering Services in Cairns He spoke to Andrew the baker and Andrew sold him an aluminiumized (sp?) steel bread tin 27cm X 12cm (at the top). This one has diagional fluted sides and bottom though they do sell the ordinary ones, I wanted something a bit different. Andrew swore this tin is the one that commercial bakers use in Cairns and it is made in Australia to baker specifications for a 680gm loaf though it would hold a great deal more according to me. According to the TMX it weighs 710 gms. The cost was $21.95 plus GST of $2.10. When I have time I will pop down for a further look see as DH said they had lots of different things and if I should really go myself. Hint hint!
Tomorrow I will make a five seed loaf and let you know how it goes. Andrew said I could lightly oil it but I am thinking that defeats the purpose of a bread tin. Do bakers do that?
If anyone one is interested I will post the phone number. or you can email for info at office@bcsnq.com
Maybe we can compare brazen.
Gretchen
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Well I made the 5 seed loaf in the new tin, took a pic of it now I will have to figure out how to post the pic. Ineed to downsize it but don't have the time now. Will try later. In any case it worked! I did oil the tin and the loaf did fall out.
Gretchen
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I was so happy with this bread tin I went out and bought the one 1/2 it's size as well as a lid for the bigger one. Andrew the baker is most helpful as are the girls in the office and they actually had a Thermomix pamphlet on the wall. ;D ;D I told Andrew he really should have a demo and see what we are all talking about. I can't figure out how to post the photo but I see it is there for you to click on. Not computer literate. At least I was able to downsize it.
Gretchen
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looks fabulous!!!
your kitchen is sooooooo clean :o :-[
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methinks there may be heaps of stuff on the floor behind the camera and cupboard ;)
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Gretchen that bread looks fabulous. I would gladly buy a loaf of bread that looked that good.
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Ah shucks. Thanks. No creampuff I was standing in it! That 5 seed bread is really fabulously easy to make and surprisingly light.
Gretchen
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Wow your bread looks great Gretchen. Love the Thermomix taking pride of place in the background! :D
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Good old hubbie buying such great tins - we can do something right.
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Ok ,I'll give him that. :-))
Gretchen
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Great photo Gretchen, lovely looking bread and to top it all a clean kitchen.
I love the 5 seed bread. I had a slice of other yesterday as DD had bought it and it tasted so different. Didn't enjoy it at all.
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Interesting...Andrew, the baker at the bread tin shop, told me to keep the temp of the dough for most breads at 27 degrees. He said it would give it a different flavour all together and not to bother with tepid water for the yeast.
Yeah I will never pay or eat store bought bread again. I learned a lot about commercial bread baking. YUK!
Gretchen
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It has to be better for us. I'll live to 100, boy won't I be a cranky old fool by then. Think I'd better go before 100. :P :P
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Hey GertbySea that is one sexy bread tin you have there! :o Are we allowed to say the "S" word on the forum? The bread looks good, but the kitchen is the real focus isn't it? I'm thinking maybe this is your own private "demo" kitchen, and that you have another 'real' kitchen somewhere else ;) That's a photo I could use in the "Show us your Bimby" album... hmmm?
;)
Keep on baking!
TMB
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Well I had to try my other new bread tin too so after making butter I used he buttermilk to make this loaf from the EDC. I used cold water not tepid. I know the tin is small but it really popped it's top.
Gretchen
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cute!
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Looks wonderful. Still love that gorgeous tidy kitchen. When I learn to do photos I'll have to shift all my cookbooks etc, etc to be even half as neat as that.
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Looks wonderful. Still love that gorgeous tidy kitchen. When I learn to do photos I'll have to shift all my cookbooks etc, etc to be even half as neat as that.
I almost do that to cook! What with a 14yo who insists on taking up half the kitchen space and vying for the TMX, it seems to a hub of mess almost constantly... until the kids are at school again... LOL
Lovely bread! I'm getting great results with my new bread tin too.. and lovely using fresh yeast as well! :D
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i'm currently in negotiations with dh to get some extra bench space - i have TWO knife blocks on my (very limited) benches. i actually own a magnetic knife rack but dh won't put it up because he thinks it's dangerous. how it can be more dangerous than having the knives on the bench i'm not sure. if only i knew what i was doing i would just do it myself!!!
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Cejay where did you get the fresh yeast? When I talked to Andrew my new bread Guru he told me it made no difference but I wonder.....
Gretchen
PS. Yes I know you are all thinking I am a bit anal and I confess I am a tidy everything in it's place person. It came from years of working in the operating theatre where you had to be able to put your hands on any instrument even if blindfolded. It is very easy as there are just the two of us here. My DH has never been know to come into the kitchen. Believe me it was not like that 40 years ago with 2 kiddies and a hotplate on a bench. Ah life is good.
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i'm currently in negotiations with dh to get some extra bench space - i have TWO knife blocks on my (very limited) benches. i actually own a magnetic knife rack but dh won't put it up because he thinks it's dangerous. how it can be more dangerous than having the knives on the bench i'm not sure. if only i knew what i was doing i would just do it myself!!!
You are right of course. Just screw the magnetic thing on a wall the kids can't reach. I just had my 3 year old granddaughter here sitting on the bench top where she could have reached a block but but she could not reach the knives on the wall from the floor without some effort. Just be sure to place it where the knives, should they fall off, not land on the floor. In my last house I had the knives on the back wall next to the stove. This wall is glass so too hard. Had to put it on the side.
Gretchen
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gretchen, it's a tiled wall, i asked my dad for advice and he said i need some special doodahs to do it LOL (actually i asked him to do it while he was here one day but i didn't hae the doodahs so he couldn't) ;)
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Cejay where did you get the fresh yeast? When I talked to Andrew my new bread Guru he told me it made no difference but I wonder.....
My local continental baker... I pick up a loaf of sourdough spelt and 250g of compressed yeast every week. ;)
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Karen, go to a hardware shop and tell them what you want to do with your knives and they'll point you in the right direction to get the doodahs you need. Take them home, make like you are going to start putting them up yourself (arm yourself with an electric drill or whatever you need) and your DH will soon take over. Just make sure he is in the kitchen when you pretend to start installing the knives though otherwise you may have to see the whole project through on your own ??? ??? ???
My ex was dilly dallying once in the middle of building a room on the back of our house (watching sport on TV instead) so I picked up the circular saw and turned it on. He came outside lickety split and the project was back on track ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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My ex was similar JD... only when he took the power tool off me, he set about buying me my own set so I could do the jobs I wanted to! :o
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;D ;D ;D ;D He just didn't want you messing with HIS tools Ceejay. Funny how they are both now exes :D :D :D
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heehee judy!
funny thing is pre-kids i was acutally handier than him but havne't done much at all (even changing lightbulbs lol) since then!
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lol Judy - that cracked me up!! ;D ;D ;D!
I kept ironing my DHs work trousers with the crease in the wrong place down the front - just could't get it right :-)) :-))- now he irons them himself (and he does the kids school uniforms as well) !! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well, there you go girls - try Ali's tip and it may work for you too ;) ;) I do love to see a man do his own ironing - just wish son-in-law would learn how to so that I didn't have to do it when I am down there babysitting. Mind you, they do pay me to do it which is just as well as I HATE ironing business shirts with a passion.
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i don't iron. dh used to do his own til we had kids - now he pays the ironing lady to do his business shirts ;)
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Ho ho ho. Baking tins to ironing. Love it! Your girls are funny.
Gretchen
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I put my magnetic strips in the dead cupboard above my rangehood :-)) Is a great way to use up the dead space though and keeps them well out of reach of the little ones ;)
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Karen if you do begin to put up your knife rack to get it done for you-make a big thing of measuring and putting little dots here, there and everywhere " just so that you can get it exactly straight". Most DH's can't stand it if it looks like it's going to be crooked. Good luck.
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Let's hope none of our DH's read this.
Gretchen
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I'm safe, mine can't even turn on the computer.
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Good work Gretchen - that husband of yours is a smart fellow to find a tin that bakes bread like that ;) ;) ;) ;) :P
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brazen - have a look at www.dermarle.fr it is brilliant stuff, I shopped a lot of moulds from them and they are all devine. When I do the After Dinner Mints in the TM31 I use their heart shapes and everyone loves them when they come to my house and are amazed that 'i have done them'. they also have some great recipes which you can adjust to the TM31 with ease.