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Questions Doubts and Requests => Questions? Technical Issues? The Survival Guide => Topic started by: Greenwitch on November 05, 2010, 07:55:13 am
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Hi there, can anyone tell me where to buy organis unhomogenised milk. And what's wrong with homogenised? I'm not sure of the process but thought it was just a means of distributing the fat evenly through the milk, whereas pasteurisation necessitates heating it to quite a hight temperature.
Thanks
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Def: "The milk is forced through a very fine screen at high pressure. The particles of fat break down and combine with the watery portion of the milk, resulting in a uniform liquid which will not separate out, since the fat particles are blended with the water."
This infact changes the chemical structure of the milk. It is only one of many processes food is now subjected to entirely for commercial purposes. It makes for a longer shelf life of an extra 11 days. I was reading that it could be the leading cause of heart disease, cancer and diabetes. Have a read of this. ;) http://www.naturopath.org.nz/homogen.html
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You can buy unhomogenised milk in supermarket but just make sure you read label because some of them are organic but still homogenised. :-\ For me I'm sticking to milk straight from my jersey cow, Clarabell. ;)
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So jealous nay-nay.
We have switched to unhomogonised 3 months ago and it has made a huge difference. My 4.5 year old had a bloated tum and we tried her on lactose free and A2 milk and nothing helped. Were going to go dairy free but changed to unhomogonised and her tummy went down and she went down 2 clothes sizes and can wear pants at a proper hight. Homogonised milk makes the proteins small enough to go through the stomach wall and into the blood - I guess that was what was happening for her.
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Thanks nay-nay and Zebraa - homogenisation explained but, unfortunately, I don't have a Clarabelle and can't find it at the supermarket! Do you know if it's in supermarkets Zebraa?
Sue
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It is available in the supermakets. Both Woolies and Coles stock I think it's Pure brand which has "unhomogenised" on the front of the carton. But be aware that at least here the 2Lt bottles are homogenised and only the 1lt cartons are homogenised.
We swap a bit between A2 and the un-homogenised. I think DD tends to get less tummy pains with the A2, but she's also sensitive to gluten so that could also be affecting her. We tried soy as well but that made no difference.
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Oh and some time ago I did actually contact the A2 office and asked if they were going to sell an un-homogenised version but they were very anti the idea... ??? :o
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I'm now feeling just a tad stupid - Pure organic is what's in my fridge and I have only just now seen the unhom word on the carton. Thanks so much I Love My Bimby!
Sue x
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Glad you discovered it so easily. :-*
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We have that dilemma too. My Dietician friend recommends A2 milk for children, but I really like them to have unhomogenised. If only I were allowed to have a jersey cow. Sigh!!!
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Chelsea, why does your friend consider A2 better than organic unhomog?? i have been using the light unhomog for the boys and i dont want to give the boys the wrong stuff??
I was diag Lactose intolerate as a little baby and have struggled for the last 28yrs with it but i find that if i have organic unhomg milk i dont have any of the symptoms, if i drink the normal cheap brands it flairs up, i havent tried A2 milk though.
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Everytime I see this title I think why an unhomogenised mother in law, lol.
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That is funny Zan!! :D
The only difference with A2 milk and other milk is marketing and the cow it comes from. It comes from Jersey or Guernsey cows as opposed to Friesians. So just getting A2 doesn't mean it is organic or unhomogenised. ;)
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For me I'm sticking to milk straight from my jersey cow, Clarabell. ;)
I'm jealous, too Nay-nay. Do you milk by hand? It's a crime here to get raw milk :-))
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thanks for this, I now have a big 2 litre bottle of Margaret River milk (organic and unhomog) sitting in the fridge. Made a yummy Tapioca Pudding from Cyndi's Healthy Eating booklet last night, and it was a lot more thicker than the previous night when we made it with skinny milk. Made a bit of a mess when I took the lid off and was trying to pour into the TM, and didn't realise there was a big cream plug stopping the flow - and then whoosh! :o
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Oh yum, the thought of the cream makes me wnat to make an apple pie and use the cream plug. I must go and find some of this milk.
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For me I'm sticking to milk straight from my jersey cow, Clarabell. ;)
I'm jealous, too Nay-nay. Do you milk by hand? It's a crime here to get raw milk :-))
Mmm - It's pretty much a crime here too. Yes - we milk the old fashioned way. :D But I don't do it as much as I used to now I have a willing, able, strong 12yr old boy who does it for me. ;)
We just dried her off this week :'( :'( just to give her a bit of a break before she calves again in Jan/Feb. So I've been to the local butchers (of all places) who gets in "Pasteurised only Jersey Milk" from a dairy that is only a couple hours away. $4.50 for 2L!!!! :-)) Can't wait to get our raw milk back!!
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Chelsea, why does your friend consider A2 better than organic unhomog??
Terri here is some info on A2 milk from the fed up website (http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/factsheets/FactA2milk.htm) which will help to answer your question.
A2 is the name of a milk protein that was in all dairy herds until a natural mutation occurred in the European herd thousands of years ago.
Milk from Jersey cows, Guernsey cows, camels, sheep, buffalo, yaks, donkeys, goats, and Asian cows naturally contain mostly these A2 beta casein proteins, whereas milk from cows such as Holsteins usually contains mostly the protein variant called A1 beta casein. In the 1970s, Australian dairy herds switched from using Jersey cows to Holsteins and at that time some dairy farmers’ families noticed effects on their health, keeping a Jersey cow for their own use.
What are the health benefits of A2 milk?
Milks containing mostly A2 proteins are often said to be better for ‘allergies’ (such as gut, skin rashes, hayfever, cough). There is also research to suggest that A1 beta casein may be associated with serious health conditions such as heart disease, diabetes type 1 and autism.
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We have an incredible story (http://www.realmilk.com/real-milk-canada.html) in our area ;).
Why don't you make your own almond or rice milk until you can milk again Nay-nay? Your milk must be delicious. Do you keep the horns on your cow?
Thats an interesting article Chelsea. Thanks for sharing :)
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Thank you Chelsea, i only wish you could get the A2 milk in an organic unhomg form ............ now that would be perfect!!! I am still not sure which way to go but atleast no i am better informed. I wish i could get the Jersey they are so cute but i so dont want to have that commitment with my household set to grow very soon :)
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@ Terri - you'll find even if your organic milk does not say A2 it just may be that - majority of Organic farms only have jersey or Guernsey cows. ;)
@ Tebasile - Thanks - a good read. I definatly don't milk to her full partenial - but she does keep us, my mum and aunty in milk. I've heard of people going shares in a cow to have raw milk. Also, the farm sells it as "Pet Milk" or "Bath Milk" and you can get around it that way. No, ClaraBell doesn't have her horns. There is a good book that a Canadian wrote - "The Family Cow" if anyone is interested in their own cow. Two things I'm glad of is we have plenty of grass and we don't have to shed any animals like you guys do. ;) http://books.google.com.au/books?id=j-efZMh9_WgC&dq=the+family+cow+dirk+van+loon&source=bl&ots=jNFZ_yMx9G&sig=t83d8RExlTqgiVZWgLNsglfjL7o&hl=en&ei=4dDcTM6ZDpHCvQPg7ND2CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAg
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Thanks Nay- Nay i have looked on the carton but there was no information regarding the breed/s of cow the milk is from and same from their web site so i have sent an email asking the company responsible for the milk. I do vaguely remember the margaret river organic unhong milk having pictures of Holsteins on the front but that was a yr ago now so i could be wrong. I so hope they tell me jersey cows causei am now seriously thinking of buying one :) i have plenty of room for it if i dont buy any meat cattle as i had planned. How long does it take to milk??
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I have 2 organic shops around me that sell raw milk as "bath milk", have never thought to ask what sort of cows they come from though. Must enquire next time l'm in.
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i have plenty of room for it if i dont buy any meat cattle as i had planned. How long does it take to milk??
Well - to start with you may take longer than you want - maybe even 45min or more! :-)) But maybe you'll be way more efficient than me and when you get into the swing of things you'll be out and back in 15. ;) Also you could have both - Most people keep the calf and grow it out to about 18mths - good time to butcher.
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Well - to start with you may take longer than you want - maybe even 45min or more! :-)) But maybe you'll be way more efficient than me and when you get into the swing of things you'll be out and back in 15. ;) Also you could have both - Most people keep the calf and grow it out to about 18mths - good time to butcher.
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:o wow 45min bummer i so dont have that time availiable :( if the kids were older i could do it looks like i'll have to make friends with some dairy owners ;D