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Questions Doubts and Requests => Questions? Technical Issues? The Survival Guide => Topic started by: PTK on June 02, 2010, 07:45:18 am
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At my varoma demo the other day my consultant steamed some puddings and used silicone cup cake moulds. She said you can also steam the $4 Mud cake. How long would it take and also would it still ok with paper patty pan cases?
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PTK, I'm not an authority on steaming cakes, but i think that paper patty pans would collapse, unless you put them in some form of holder. Little ceramic dishes or even tea cups. I looked up my book on steaming,'STEAMING', by Brigid Treloar, and she has a recipe for a Chinese , lemon, date and walnut cake, cooked in a 9 inch pan and she only steams it for 15 mins. I would have thought it would take a bit longer. She also has a recipe for mini Xmas puddings, and these take 1 hour. There are people on the Forum with more experience than me in steaming cakes, and i am sure they will help.
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As Xmas in July is coming up, does anyone have a recipe for a LIGHT pudding, either indiviidual or whole pudding that you could make in the Varoma? I'd like to give this a go, as I have not used my Varoma very much apart from the black and white cheesecake and general steaming of vegies.
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Hi Kezza,
I tried paper patty papers - it doesn't work!!! They spread out. I made little Christmas puddings last year in ceramic ramekins - they took about 40 mins I think. the recipe is in the Christmas cook-booklet, which you could get from your consultant. :)
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Kezza, I posted a recipe for a Xmas pud. It has grated carrot in it and everyone loves it. You could make a 1/4 of the recipe and pop it into a oven bag (the ones used for roasting), tied into a round shape and steam it in the bottom of the varoma. Probably for 1 hour. There is also one in the book I have already recommended. for mini christmas puds.
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There is a Sago Plum Pudding in the Gluten free book, apart from it having gluten free breadcrumbs which you could replace with any bread, it is just a normal recipe. Page 64. I love sago pudding at Christmas time but haven't tried this one.
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The Christmas puddings in the Festive book are lovely. I cooked them in metal dariole moulds.
I love the steam cakes you buy in Singapore. Do you think an ordinary cake cooked in little moulds in the VAroma would be similar? I must try it.
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Welocme PTK The silicon cups may be part of the new Varoma demo that we can't talk about. There may well be steamed cakes/puddings on the menu that we can't talk about.
I have steamed cakes and puds in plastic Dariole moulds and usually about the same time as if they went into an oven BUT with timing from when the Varoma temp is reached !!!
I have made souffles in the Varoma too. You can fashion patty pan holder to fit the Varoma, but it is a pain.
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Welcome PTK
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Welcome PTK
Ditto!
Thanks for the idea, I'm going to make mini steamed jam puddings for dessert tonight!
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If you're having custard with them MJ I'm on my way. :D
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Yes, I was planning to have custard with them, but they didn't work well....
I placed some baking paper over the top of them to stop too much moisture, but even though they appeared cooked, they tasted raw.
I'm going to re-heat in microwave to see if they cook a bit more.
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You don't need the baking paper MJ, they work just fine. Come out looking a little moist just like the varoma bread but perfectly fine. Made them again the other night with golden syrup and custard - oh yum and where is the gym again?? ;D ;D
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Thanks for the ideas everyone. How many can you make at a time? Working out quantities is still a challenge for me!!! The little jam puddings sound nice.
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You can really only fit four if you're using a mould the size of a cup. Dariole moulds are much smaller and you could probably fit six.
I'll try again without the paper....
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I think it is 8 silicone cup cake moulds you can fit in the varoma tray (it could also be 12 lol)
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We used 14 regular sized silicon cup cake moulds in the two trays last time, and they fit fine. :)
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lol goes to show how much attention I paid ... on another note that means the kids ate more than I thought! :o :o
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i cooked some sticky date puddings, i steamed them,they came out great,i didnt know how long to do this for so i just kept checking,i used the single silicon patty cake things???,they are great
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Well done cazza.. welcome to the forum too.
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Last night I made Sussex Pond Puddings. These are funny little steamed puds, with a scone type dough used to line 1/2 cup ceramic dishes. The center that is hollow is filled with 1/4 of a lemon and a sugar and butter mix, then a lid is placed on top. 4 dishes fitted in the top steamer and cooked for 1 1/2 hours. I would like to tweak the recipe a little and then will post if anyone is interested.
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i'm interested chookie ;D i got a special mention at the gym this morning that the reason i probably couldn't do the excercise properly was because i enjoyed my desserts too much (ouch!) true, but not going to cut them out, probably just take a slightly smaller portion...maybe...not!
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Hi Kezza, I have seen silicon patty cake molds, for six and also for 12 at cookware shops and also BigW and I think Tupperware sell them. These should keep firm and allow the mixture to rise while being steamed. Good luck!!
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I'll try the silicon moulds next time. I like the idea of the sticky date puddings cooked in the moulds. I normally make the mixture in the TMX as well as the sauce, so that would be a complete TMX recipe!
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Hi Trudy, thanks for that. I have some patty cake silicon moulds, but the other night I tried a chocolate/date pudding recipe in dariole moulds. I could fit 8 in Varoma, but only made 6 because I was experimenting with the recipe and wasn't sure how much it would rise. They puffed up beautifully, but a little too much, so I think I could make 8 out of the mixuture. I want to do this recipe again ( it is a tweaking of a Stephanie Alexander recipe) and once I am happy with it I will post it, as I made it all in the TMX and then steamed in Varoma. Big thankyou to you all for your ideas on this one. :) I am currently trying to work out a recipe for a self-saucing pudding in the Varoma too. Has anyone tried this?
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I am currently trying to work out a recipe for a self-saucing pudding in the Varoma too. Has anyone tried this?
No, but I was thinking the same thing - I think it would work well!
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Hmm...you would need a casserole dish that fitted in the lower steaming compartment.
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i have a dish that fits in the bottom, but it covers up the holes - would that still work?
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Probably not as the steam won't rise up. You'd need one with a small base.
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Over the last few months I have been experimenting with different sizes in pyrex and similar dishes. To avoid blocking up the steam holes, sit an egg ring under the dish. I have been carting the Varoma around with me, when i go shopping. :-[ :-[ :-[ the shop assistants have been very helpful, and I now have a variety of dishes, ( some with lids and some without).
With the steamed puds, in the Varoma, only fill the dishes 2/3 full. This doesn't look much but when cooked will fill the dish. I can't see why a self saucing pud wouldn't work. I think that the moulds, small or large should be covered so that they are not wet on the top. I don't like the look of pale steamed puds, so I usually sprinkle the tops with cinnamon. Hope this helps.
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Brilliant idea with the egg rings Chookie ;D ;D ;D thank you :-* :-* :-*
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I thought it would be okay using a dish as I made the cheesecake in the varoma and that was in a tin, so I didn't think the steaming would be an issue.
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Over the last few months I have been experimenting with different sizes in pyrex and similar dishes. To avoid blocking up the steam holes, sit an egg ring under the dish. I have been carting the Varoma around with me, when i go shopping. :-[ :-[ :-[ the shop assistants have been very helpful, and I now have a variety of dishes, ( some with lids and some without).
LOL - I did the same thing Chookie :-)) :-)) :-)) Really wish Vorwerk would make some dishes designed to fit. I have a small cupboard with dishes of various shapes & sizes to go into the Varoma
I use the lids off plastic containers for the same thing.
kezza - it is always worth a try - I keep trying things in the varoma.
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I bought a pack of 6 Texas muffin silicone forms that I intend to try steaming. I am a little concerned though as they are tall and that there might not be enough room under the lid for a good flow of steam. Still.....they were only $10...worth a try.
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Let us know how you went with these Amanda :)
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Amanda, you might have to do just 4 at a time in the bottom steamer. This is how I did my small Xmas Puds. Very successful, and with 800mls. of water , didn't need topping up in the hour they took to cook.
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I only used the bottom of the Varoma when I did my Christmas puddings. Just have to do a couple of batches.