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Title: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: andiesenji on February 03, 2010, 01:43:54 am
This vendor recently added this product to their extensive list of peppercorns available.
http://www.salttraders.com/Detail.bok?no=104

I am very partial to freshly-ground pepper and have several varieties but have not yet tried this one.  I am considering ordering it but decided to ask folks who are actually in the country if they know anything about it and if it is different enough to notice.

While this is not my usual purveyor of peppercorns, I do purchase the unusual salts they carry and have bought some peppercorns.

My usual peppercorn vendor is this one: http://www.pepper-passion.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=200024  and I became acquainted when I ordered one of his unique pepper grinders. 
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: Meagan on February 03, 2010, 01:48:13 am
I have never heard of it before  ??? I am sure someone else would have though.
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Post by: judydawn on February 03, 2010, 01:56:18 am
Never heard of it Andie but I was wondering if they would send you a sample of this product, you are afterall a customer of theirs.  Worth asking.
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: gertbysea on February 03, 2010, 02:05:14 am
I have tried several Australian peppers but don't recognise this one.. You would do well to buy the Murray River Salt andiesenji. It is quite unique. Pink flakes. There are a few different Australian Peppers on the market.  Have the ever tried the black French Salt? Very wet and hard to find here but oh so "salty".

Cheers,
Gretchen
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: Amanda on February 03, 2010, 03:10:11 am
I have heard of it, but haven't used it.
Maybe this will help?
http://www.cse.csiro.au/research/nativefoods/crops/pepper.htm
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: Thermomixer on February 03, 2010, 04:35:07 am
I have used them - mine were called mountain pepprer berries - and they are worth trying.  It is more of  a fruity type.

Tetsuya has a new salad dressing with Tasmanian mountain peppers (they gave me a bottle to try, but now I can't find any info on the net) - they need to update their website.  So if the top chef in Australia (IMHO) uses them - you had better try them  ;)
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: andiesenji on February 03, 2010, 04:47:22 am
Thanks all, and thanks for the link, Amanda, it is very helpful.

Yes, I have the Murray river salt as well as several other salts.  I am rather a nut about salts.  I am a "supertaster" having more taste buds on my tongue than most people so I can taste even faint differences in foods.
(I took part in an interesting experiment where the taste buds on my tongue were dyed and counted - sort of weird, but interesting. - There were 15 people in the tests, so I was not the only weird person willing to do this.)

So here, in the middle of my spice cabinet, is my "salt bar"
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h129/Basenjibabe91/Kitchen%20stuff%20old%20and%20new/saltbar1.jpg)

So you can see the names, here are close-ups.  Note the Murray river salt prominently placed.
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h129/Basenjibabe91/Kitchen%20stuff%20old%20and%20new/saltbar2.jpg)

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h129/Basenjibabe91/Kitchen%20stuff%20old%20and%20new/saltbar3.jpg)

I do have black salt (which is pink), tightly sealed because the aroma tends to be invasive.
I also have three different smoked salts, which are very interesting - imparting a smoky flavor to beans and such - when I am cooking for vegans and where I would usually use a ham hock or bacon to flavor the dish. 

I put the "finishing" salts out in little salt cellars, with miniature spoons so guests can add the amount they want to certain foods. 
I do the same thing with peppers.   It's fun to experiment with them.
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: Thermomixer on February 03, 2010, 04:58:54 am
Did they do the propylthiouracil tests to determine that you were, before counting the taste buds?  Don't think I could keep my mouth open long enough for someone to count the tastebuds  ;D
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: andiesenji on February 03, 2010, 05:08:31 am
Did they do the propylthiouracil tests to determine that you were, before counting the taste buds?  Don't think I could keep my mouth open long enough for someone to count the tastebuds  ;D

They sprayed my tongue with something to "clean" it first, then painted it with one type of dye, had me rinse my mouth and then applied another type of dye and rinse. 
Then they put a flat plastic shield with holes in it on my tongue and took a photo.   They count the different types of taste buds that show up in the different holes as different parts of the tongue are sensitive to different flavors. 

The test was done at USC - a grad student was doing his doctorate on human senses.    At the time of the test (2002) I had 35 to 40 of the little papillae that sense flavors in each of the little holes.  Normal is twenty. 
He also had us tasting various things in increasing dilutions. 
Here's some info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supertaster
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Post by: CreamPuff63 on February 03, 2010, 05:16:43 am
Were you a fussy eater when you were a baby/child?
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: andiesenji on February 03, 2010, 03:37:38 pm
No, not at all.  When I was a child, it was not allowed. ;D   I was the only girl born into the family for a generation (my mother being the last) and I was indulged to a degree but not when it came to food.  I was born shortly before WWII (in 1939) and I ate what was put before me and while our diet was not as varied or as interesting as today's world-wide suppliers allow us, we had plenty of food.  I grew up on a farm in western Kentucky (not the "bluegrass" area) that was essentially self-sufficient. 

Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: ThermomixBlogger on February 03, 2010, 05:57:06 pm
This is so fascinating! Never heard of this taste-bud testing before! Makes me wonder if maybe some of us who love the nuances of food 'too much' need to get some of our taste-buds zapped.  :o  Perhaps the "numbing" of extra taste-buds could be a new way to reduce food desire/intake and lose weight ?   ;)  (Not sure I'd be willing to serve as guinea pig for those scientific trials though...)
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: judydawn on February 03, 2010, 11:03:22 pm
Don't think you would get too many volunteers at all Helene. By the way, just had a look at your website and would like to thank you for all the lovely thinks you wrote about us Aussies.
Andie - what in life have you not experienced ???  What a journey you have been on and an autobiography would make for very interesting reading indeed.
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: andiesenji on February 04, 2010, 12:33:29 am
Don't think you would get too many volunteers at all Helene. By the way, just had a look at your website and would like to thank you for all the lovely thinks you wrote about us Aussies.
Andie - what in life have you not experienced ???  What a journey you have been on and an autobiography would make for very interesting reading indeed.

Several people have said the same.  My daughter and grandkids keep asking me to write about some of my experiences.  While I had a "regular" job as an x-ray tech, I also did some work as a personal chef - mostly to patients of the doctor for whom I worked at that time.  He was the medical director for the Motion Picture Country Hospital so most of his patients were in the entertainment business and I worked for several from time to time, when they needed something special.   I've never disclosed any names, even to my family, because I was trusted to be discrete.   There were some really hilarious incidents.  I worked on a fairly regular basis - two or three times a month - for a British rock star during the two years he lived in Bel Air in the early-to-mid '70s.  He liked to walk around the house nude, (except he always wore one of the Irish flat tweed caps) it didn't bother me, except when he came into the kitchen while I was cooking.  I warned him he should at least wear an apron when I was frying stuff. :-))   He had a constant parade of girlfriends, some were some of the dumbest people I have ever known.  At least he wasn't into drugs - but did have a taste for single-malt scotch.  It was the first time I had ever heard of some of the more "exotic" scotch brands, apparently only produced in very small batches and for the price, may have contained gold.  He had them flown in and some were delivered in wooden cases.

Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: gertbysea on February 04, 2010, 12:46:41 am
andiesenji you are a hoot.  Stop cooking and start writing. Or you could use a ghost writer. Helene might volunteer. Another fascinating person on this forum. What a wonderful world.

Gretchen
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Post by: judydawn on February 04, 2010, 03:04:20 am
 This book is sounding more interesting each time you post something andie - you must do something about it before it is too late (sorry!).  Cook by day and write by night is my suggestion.  :-* :-*
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Post by: cookie1 on February 04, 2010, 04:09:09 am
Yes Andiesenji you must. Even if you put these anecdotes you tell us in a special file on the computer. My Dad had many hilarious stories.  We wanted him to write them or tell them to a tape recorder but he flatly refused and if we had tried to secretly tape him he would have found out and not told us any more. Sadly these stories of his life and  wartime have all gone now. :'(
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: andiesenji on February 05, 2010, 04:43:03 am
I'm thinking about it.  The difficulty is not the time needed, it is the discipline required to actually do it and stick to it until it is finished.

Another problem is being a perfectionist in putting across an idea in the best language possible, so that it is easily comprehensible. 

I read a great deal and am constantly remarking aloud when I come across glaring errors in a book.  Many authors do extensive research about the background of a story set in another era but then use a word that is inappropriate. 
(I do the same thing with movies and TV shows that are set in earlier times.) 

I don't want to make the same mistakes and certainly wouldn't trust most editors to catch such errors.

I have a box full of micro tapes that I have dictated as ideas have occurred to me.   I do intend to transcribe them but to date have avoided that task.   Perhaps tomorrow.........


By the way, I have ordered the Australian mountain pepper and will report back when I have given it sufficient attention.
(I also ordered some more "rare" salts  and reordered curry sugar as my tin is near empty.)
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: achookwoman on February 05, 2010, 01:09:43 pm
Andi,  about the pepper seed/berries.  I think they are grown mostly in Tasmania,  although I have some I collected on Mt. Macedon.   Both the leaves and the berries are peppery,  the berries more so.  They are hotter than the other black peppers and I believe they are very expensive.   The small trees on which they grow are very dependent  on the climate and very difficult to grow.   I think I read that they sell for $1200 a Kilo. 
Title: Re: Need assistance regarding Australian product.
Post by: andiesenji on February 05, 2010, 07:23:09 pm
Andi,  about the pepper seed/berries.  I think they are grown mostly in Tasmania,  although I have some I collected on Mt. Macedon.   Both the leaves and the berries are peppery,  the berries more so.  They are hotter than the other black peppers and I believe they are very expensive.   The small trees on which they grow are very dependent  on the climate and very difficult to grow.   I think I read that they sell for $1200 a Kilo. 

That price sounds about right for the amount I paid at Salt Traders.  I've found their prices to be very fair and competitive in the past and I have purchased a great deal from them. 
I just love salts, various peppers and  the more exotic spices.   
I have been using grains of paradise since I discovered them many years ago and early on were very difficult to find.  The internet has made is so much easier for folk like me to indulge our desires. ;D  At least the desire for food-related stuff. ;)
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Post by: Ceejay on February 05, 2010, 10:44:44 pm
Another one who is fascinated with your history and experiences Andie!  Bet that book will be a best seller! ;)


I have a verbal agreement from a friend studying creative writing to do a book with me... but I sure hear you on that discipline side!  :P