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Title: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: nickykat on January 05, 2013, 12:40:53 pm
Hello, I'm just about to start on an elimination diet (failsafe, gluten free, dairy free) for myself and my 3 children. To make it even more complicated my older son and I are both vegetarian, so will be combing the forum for recipes that will get enough nutrition into him!
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: Cornish Cream on January 05, 2013, 01:29:47 pm
Welcome to the forum Nickykat.
There are a few forum members who follow a failsafe diet,including Molly.Have you seen her recipe  blog (http://realfailsafemeals.blogspot.co.uk/?m=0). If you type in Elimination Diet in the search box on the home page you will see some helpful recipes. :)
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: fundj&e on January 05, 2013, 06:38:35 pm
Welcome to the forum NK
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: gertbysea on January 05, 2013, 09:05:08 pm
Welcome nickykat. Also have a look at  http://quirkycooking.blogspot.com.au/?m=1.

Gert
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: judydawn on January 05, 2013, 10:26:52 pm
Hi & welcome to the forum nickykat, good luck with finding all the recipes you need to keep your family healthy.  You may be spending as much time on the computer as in the kitchen until you can print off a pile of recipes to get you going.
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: babyw on January 05, 2013, 11:38:57 pm
Hi,  we did the elim diet a year ago.  I used the sue dengate cookbook, the elim diet book recipe plans and the friendly food cookbook. I made a failsafe stock which was the flavour base for lots of dishes.

I did a menu plan to help so I didn't have to think of something every night and I had the ingredients on hand.  I tried to make enough for 2 nights dinner or more at a time so I could cover lunches and not have to bother cooking every night.  Soup was a good one to freeze in small portions.
 
Off the top of my head the things I made were quiche, beef roast and veges, chicken kiev, fish bites and chips, risotto chicken, vege soup, potato and leek soup, lamb and swede pureee, baked pototo with meat sauce and cabbage salad, steak with wedges, swede and beans, eggs, and lots of rice cakes!  Breakfast was the biggest challenge on school, work days.  Rice puffs with rice milk just didn't fill us up.

I was really happy when we passed the gluten challenge.  We eat meat so that made it easier - good luck and it was definately worth it for us.
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: mab19 on January 06, 2013, 12:17:06 am
Hi nickykat, welcome to the forum.  Good luck with your diet :)
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: obbie on January 06, 2013, 02:56:42 am
Hi and welcome
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: droverjess on January 06, 2013, 08:43:11 am
Hello and welcome and good luck.
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: Kimmyh on January 06, 2013, 08:53:15 am
Hi nickykat and welcome.  Wishing you all the best with the elimination diet.
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: mcmich on January 06, 2013, 10:34:51 am
Welcome to the forum. All the best with the elimination diet.
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: Jamberie on January 06, 2013, 10:43:54 am
Hi nickykat,
Good luck with your diet, it sounds like babyw has great advice, I've got those cookbooks and I really liked the friendly food one. I will be embarking on the elimination diet in a few months too. I'm hoping to work out triggers for my migraines. I'll be interested to hear how you go.
Good luck :)
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: cookie1 on January 07, 2013, 01:07:53 am
Good luck with the elimination diet and a big welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: astarra on January 08, 2013, 01:26:09 am
Hello and welcome NK.  :)
Hope you fnd the recipes and inspiration you need for your diet.  :)
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: consumerate on January 08, 2013, 11:12:13 am
It's going to be really tough without meat! I hope you have a good dietician.

I found doing it in winter easier than summer. Probably because of the fact that salad is pretty well out during elimination.

It's also really hard to get enough fibre, so keep an eye on that.

I hope it works for you. I learned a lot and now have a significantly happier time of life because I know how to manage my salicylate consumption.

Absolute hardest thing for me was giving up tea. Is till not entirely come to terms with that but the improvement is enough for me to stay off it for good. I find that salicylates in liquid have a faster and greater affect. On me than salicylates that are in solid food.

Best of luck

Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: consumerate on January 08, 2013, 11:19:31 am
Oh and in terms of inspiration food wise, the pear jam is pretty good, although reduce the sugar content. I ate heaps of swede mash and also really regularly made leek and potato rosti to go alongside meat.  Would be nice with an egg on it if you eat eggs as a part of your vegetarian diet. Lightly cooked cabbage was very popular too.

It is a lot easier if you can include dairy, so do that challenge as quickly as possible.  If it's only lactose that is a problem, once you are finished with the elimination phase you can actually use lactase tablets which means you can eat dairy while taking in only a small quantity of salicylates.

Also, you really need the holy trinity of books which is:
-The elimination diet handbook from rpah
-The friendly food cookbook from rpah or dymocks or qbd
-The Sue Dengate failsafe e cookbook

Don't think I could have done it without all three.

Wi
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: Girlpower247 on January 09, 2013, 12:27:43 am
Jo's blog @ Quirky cooking has some great recipes for sugar, dairy& wheat free followers...very popular

http://quirkycooking.blogspot.com.au/?m=0
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: SuperMum_of_3 on February 16, 2013, 11:41:48 am
Hi nickykat,
We've been on RPAH elimination diet 6 months. I can't tolerate any sals, amines etc at all so haven't been able to reintroduce anything successfully. My 2 little boys passed the amines test, but can't reintroduce any sals at all. We do meat, so makes it easier, but usually have a couple of vegetarian meals a week.

If you find you're okay with amines, you could do a vegetarian nasi goreng, using FAILSAFE veges & egg. Just google nasi goreng and adapt a recipe to suit FAILSAFE foods.

I do not like the RPAH cookbook because of the high sugar in a lot of the recipes, but also bc I found most of them taste yuck. I recommend domestic diva unleashed & cooking for oscar websites. I think you'll do FAR better with these sites than a cookbook. Here are the links:
http://www.domesticdivaunleashed.com/
http://www.cookingforoscar.com/

I've posted a recipe on mock tomato sauce on this forum. Make this multiple times a week to go into meals. Real lifesaver.
http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=11892.0

The above should get you started. I've ended up making up most of my recipes as hubby isn't FAILSAFE but eats it when at home, had to come up with a lot of recipes to pass as 'normal'. When I get time, will write them down & put them into an ebook or something similiar to help others like yourself.

If I may make a suggestion, if you're going to do the elim diet, do it properly - for eg. no toothpaste - use bicarb & salt mix instead. Find a no-frag shampoo, soap etc option. Fragrance free deodorant, etc. Use bicarb only for cleaning (even the smell of vinegar is too much as it's a strong salicylate). When you go off the foods, you'll become more sensitive to smells of sals & react to them too. Perfumes worn by others can be a real prob. We've had to take our 3.5yr old out of Kindy because he kept reacting to perfumes & cleaning product smells used in the centre. Make sure your kids don't wear sunscreen unless you find one that's RPAH approved. It's pretty full on. I wouldn't recommend the diet unless you 'have' to do it. If you can do a Liver Cleanse or take a weed, seed, feed approach to your gut first, I'd do that! If you end up needing to do the elimination diet, having a healthy liver & better functioning gut will help you tolerate reintroduction of sals.

All the best! Let us know how you go! :)
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: SuperMum_of_3 on February 16, 2013, 11:51:37 am
Hi nickykat,
Good luck with your diet, it sounds like babyw has great advice, I've got those cookbooks and I really liked the friendly food one. I will be embarking on the elimination diet in a few months too. I'm hoping to work out triggers for my migraines. I'll be interested to hear how you go.
Good luck :)

Hi Jamberie,
Try doing the elimination diet for AMINES ONLY first. Most people, including myself, find amines are the trigger for their migraines.
Cheers  :)
Title: Re: Need inspiration for elimination diet
Post by: Jamberie on February 17, 2013, 11:24:14 am
Thanks for the tip SuperMum. I'll chat to my dietitian (who conveniently happens to be my sister) about that in a few weeks when I start.

I already kind of know that I have a low tolerance of high amine foods. I made Umami paste once (it was the most delicious and tasty thing I've ever made/eaten- thanks Tenina), the next day I had one of the worst migraines I've ever experienced. I thought about what I'd eaten and the Umami (as delicious as it is) is full of the foods I shouldn't have.