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Title: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2012, 03:15:32 am
From my brand new cookbook .Just for you my other  Santa .Thank you.

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Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: jeninwa on November 14, 2012, 03:22:14 am
Well that an interesting photo of your pretzels look more like this morning eclipse. 😃😃😃
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2012, 03:24:56 am
Don't know how that got there! Can't get rid of it!

Gert
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: jeninwa on November 14, 2012, 03:27:58 am
The new photos look great, I'm going to gerts for some pretzels and a beer. 😃😃
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2012, 03:37:04 am
By the way that is not a photo I have taken of the eclipse.

Gert
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: jeninwa on November 14, 2012, 03:52:01 am
That same photo is posted twice from you in the anything goes for Uni thread Gert.
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Katiej on November 14, 2012, 04:12:57 am
Pretzels look amazing Gert  :D
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2012, 04:17:51 am
A bit rough but oh so delish. A bit like making bagels .  DH ate two before I could stop him. Now lunch just became dinner!

What next to make?

Gert
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Halex on November 14, 2012, 04:47:39 am
Pretzels look fab Gert.

How much s a quart in mls?
Title: Re: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: *suzanne* on November 14, 2012, 04:51:41 am
They look delicious, thats one thing i would love to make
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Wonder on November 14, 2012, 04:53:00 am
Pretzels look great Gert
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Kimmyh on November 14, 2012, 05:07:43 am
Pretzels look so yummy Gert.
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Cuilidh on November 14, 2012, 06:59:44 am
They look very yummy, Gert.  Where are the directions? 
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2012, 07:12:22 am
They look very yummy, Gert.  Where are the directions? 

Ummmmm. Good question.

Gert
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: judydawn on November 14, 2012, 07:19:57 am
Nice going Gretchen.
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: EmeraldSue on November 14, 2012, 07:28:43 am
They look delicious Gert. I can just imagine how good they would taste with that cold beer :)
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Delightful Den on November 14, 2012, 08:02:23 am
Pretzels look fab Gert.

How much s a quart in mls?

H
2 quarts are 1892ml

Dennis
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: cookie1 on November 14, 2012, 08:30:14 am
They look delicious Gert. Well done.
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 14, 2012, 08:55:03 am
Just gorgeous Gert 8)
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2012, 09:09:02 am
I did mess with the recipe a bit as I felt it was way too much water in the first place which it was. I followed the process. If anyone is really interested in the method I will post what I did but it it not a quick recipe.


And for my next attempt at reviving my youth I am gunna have a go at making Bialys onion  bagels , baked not boiled. Found the recipe near the end of my Beeeeeeutiful new book.

OMG I am so excited about these.

First I have to finish my super pretzels. Maybe I should freeze them.

Den you are gunna wish you were here!

Gert
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Delightful Den on November 14, 2012, 10:03:31 am
I already do Gretchen. Any time I get into NYC I always seek out a pretzel vendor's cart.
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Halex on November 14, 2012, 10:11:53 am
Gert, really interested in the onion bagels :) if not too hard please post recipe :)

Thanks
H :)
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: cookie1 on November 14, 2012, 10:30:32 am
I must try these pretzels. They look so nice.
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: droverjess on November 14, 2012, 09:34:35 pm
Gert fab, they do look very LARGE :D

Plus I thought it artistic and  clever pretzels to symbolise the eclipse?
LOL.
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2012, 10:11:49 pm
I have to tell you that this  wonderful  book, The Secrets of a Jewish Baker, confirms  all that I don't know  about  bread making.  Achookwoman is our "go to" guru for sure.  Also I am not a follow the recipe exactly sort of oook.  What I know about bread making would fill a thimble, and that is there is a formula for making all breads. It is all about maths.

Having said that I can only tell you what I did to make the pretzels. Apart from  asking achookwoman your best best is to google and do some research especialy when converting measurements.  I tried to keep to the American measurements here becauste I have a pyrex measuring jug with both US and  Aus measures marked.

As you can see the recipe calls for 2 Quarts of water Hally. That  is of no consequence what ever.  All you need is a pot of water, so whatever.

Seems to me breadmaking is all about feel and smell and is very intuitive. This book is by a a baker from Long Island NY who owned  a bakery making all sorts of goodies.  He uses a basic sponge method for lots of bread and nearly each recipe is for at least 2 loaves which makes it hard for me as there is just the two of us and I don't eat much bread.

To me it is all about replicating the flavour and texture of breads  I remember from my youth in New York and that is why I am in love wth this book.

Ok to the pretzels. A wonderful  surprising taste treat for the uninitiated.

In the Thermothingy jug I put 3/4  of a cup of water followed by  2.25 teaspoons of dried yeast. Probably  about 7 gms. Then 2.25 cups of bread flour white,  .5 cup of  whole wheat flour, .25 cup  of brown sugar, 2 tsps of molasses, 1 tbls of grape seed oil  and 2 tsps salt.

I gave it a quick mix on 4 then kneaded it for  5 minutes. This is where you can add more water or flour, either sort to make a dough you can work with. Not too wet not too dry.   I  have no idea how much of either i used but  after each  addition  of water or flour I kneaded it a bit more.

If you were doing this by hand  you would not measure it either. It is all about the feel.

I then put the dough in an oiled bowl turning it to coat, covered  it with chookies shower cap and left it to  double.

No need to punch it down . I took it out  of the bowl  sort of shappd it into a loaf, cut it into three then each piece in three again. I used Helene's super spatula.

Take  one piece and roll it into a long strand  about  70 centimetres long or less or more as you like.  Form pretzel shape. I used a You Tube  demo to figure it out. Place them of a tray, cover with plastic wrap to rise again, maybe  30 minutes.

Meanwhile boil a pot of water add  a handfull of baking soda for 4 tablespoons to two quarts. of water. Don't ask just google it if you have to know. it really does not matter.

Preheat over to HOT  AS. 230  or more. You know your own oven.

Ok  now take the water off the boil add one pretzel at a time  and quickly turn over and remove to lined tray sprinkle with crushed salt and  bake for 3 to 4 minutes  before turning them over or around or whatever. Cook for a total of 8 to  10 minutes until lightly browned.  let them cool a bit then dip them both sides in a combo of melted butter and oil . The recipe called for 4 tbls of oil and the same of butter but you can figure out how much you want.

The process is similar to making bagels.

Yes Drover Jess they are big. They are meant to be big and are nothing  like a bag of pretzels. These are soft, buttery and salty.

Hall  I will  report on the Bialys in a day or two.   They are sooooooooo yummy.

Gert
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Halex on November 14, 2012, 10:15:15 pm
Pretzels look fab Gert.

How much s a quart in mls?

H
2 quarts are 1892ml

Dennis

Thanks Dash
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Halex on November 14, 2012, 11:05:14 pm
Geet thanks for the instructions.

I love playing with dough, I coudnt help myself I have just ordered the book ;D

H :)
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: droverjess on November 14, 2012, 11:10:04 pm
LOL H with money saved n groceries, good one.

Great going Gert, look forward to your next endeavour and agree all about feel... And instinct with the more you bake.
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: jeninwa on November 14, 2012, 11:15:30 pm
Thanks for the instructions Gert. Going to try making these on the weekend.
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2012, 11:27:10 pm
Thanks for the instructions Gert. Going to try making these on the weekend.

You won't be diappointed.  Remember they do not have to be pretzel shaped either.

Gert
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2012, 11:33:56 pm
Geet thanks for the instructions.

I love playing with dough, I coudnt help myself I have just ordered the book ;D

H :)

I hope you won't be disappointed Hally/ It is very American and no pictures. You will have to google some pics if you are not familiar with the methods and the breads. There are some flours not available here either so you have to figure out what to substitute.  But it is a good book for learners if  you want to try  European style breads.

If you don't have a quick conversion app Hally you should get one for your iPad because all the measurements  will need adjusting.

I love my new book.

gert
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: Halex on November 14, 2012, 11:42:30 pm
Thanks Gert :)
Title: Re: German Soft Pretzels with photos
Post by: cookie1 on November 15, 2012, 06:27:14 am
Ooh, I think I may have to tell Santa I have been good and this book would make a lovely gift.