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Title: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Delightful Den on November 04, 2012, 09:36:51 am
I adapted this from Chookies basic sourdough recipe and a non sourdough pumpernickel recipe.

250g warm filtered water
3 Tbsp unsweetened cocoa
3 Tbsp molasses
1 Tbsp instant coffee

Place these ingredients in TM bowl first mix speed 4, 5 seconds

Then add the following ingredients.
250g rye flour
125g whole meal flour
125g bread flour
3 Tbls cornmeal (polenta)
1.5 Tbsp carraway seeds
400g sourdough starter (I used rye starter)

Kneed 4 minutes then pour/scrape dough into pan, spray with water and cover to rise until double.

Bake in oven per heated to 200 with lid on for 20 minutes remove lid and bake further 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: achookwoman on November 04, 2012, 11:43:34 am
DD,  you did it.!!!!!  You are now a master baker.  Congratulations.  It does look yummy.  Thanks for the recipe.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Delightful Den on November 04, 2012, 11:54:28 am
Thanks Chookie. I don't think I rate the title of master baker.

I am very pleased with the result of the pumpernickel but if you saw the rye bread I made earlier It was not so impressive. It didn't rise as well as I would have hoped.  I added more flour and starter to try and get enough dough to make 2 small loafs. However they struggled to rise much.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Bonsai on November 04, 2012, 01:09:28 pm
DD I'll have to give this a go when I wake up my sourdough starter again. Love pumpernickel so thanks for perfecting it for us 😊
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: gertbysea on November 05, 2012, 02:57:30 am
Now where am I going to get some instant coffee?  I ain't buying any. Might have to beg some.

Why did you add polenta?

I still have a way to go with my starter to get 400 gms.

How was the flavour?

Gert
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Delightful Den on November 05, 2012, 03:11:05 am
I know what you mean Gert. For some reason I had some in my cupboard. Just sub two or three shots of Esspresso for some of the water.

Everything I read about pumpernickel from recipes to the Wikipedia all have cornmeal.  It is for the texture. The amount varies from recipe to recipe.

The flavour was ok but I didn't have molasses and couldn't buy any on Sunday. (Only one shop in town sells it.) So I substituted golden syrup since that was all I had. I think molasses will make a big difference to the colour and flavour.  The caraway really comes through in the flavour.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: gertbysea on November 05, 2012, 03:21:56 am
Good idea about the espresso.

The cornmeal makes sense for texture.

I actually have some molasses.  Don't ask how how old it is.

I love caraway..

Gert
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Delightful Den on November 05, 2012, 04:03:58 am
Molasses doesn't last around my house Gert. I love the stuff and have been known to eat it by the spoonful.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Csoki on November 05, 2012, 04:59:05 am
Sounds amazing! I will have to track down some molasses. How long did you have to leave it to rise Den?
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Delightful Den on November 05, 2012, 06:03:31 am
I think I let it rise for about 4 hours. It wasn't very warm here yesterday but the oven was still warm from an earlier loaf so I set it on the door and eventually put it in the cooling oven.

Molasses can usually be found in C or W in the health food section.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: cookie1 on November 05, 2012, 10:59:27 am
I can't wait to try this DD.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: gertbysea on November 05, 2012, 11:04:31 am
Me too cookie. I need some more rye starter but I am working on it.

Gert
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: gertbysea on November 08, 2012, 03:29:01 am
Den and chookie I am going to make the pumpernickel with these changes

Replace some  water with. Strong espresso instead of instant coffee.

Replace polenta with cracked rye.

Use all rye flour .


What so you think?

Gert
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: cookie1 on November 08, 2012, 07:28:48 am
All rye may stop it rising a lot Gert.  (I think)
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: gertbysea on November 08, 2012, 07:39:33 am
Ok  cookie. White or whole wheat. ?

Gert
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Delightful Den on November 08, 2012, 10:32:13 am
Gert all the recipes I checked out prior to making this used a mixture of white, wholemeal and rye flours.  Some used "pumpernickel' flour.  When I did a Google search on this I found it it is a blend of white, rye, wholemeal and cornmeal. THere is no industry standard so each manufacturer's blend is different.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: gertbysea on November 08, 2012, 10:51:56 am
Thanks Den I think I will blend the flour before before adding.  I will have to start it tomorrow. As I may be without my Thermothingy after Sat.

Good luck to me.

Gert
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: cookie1 on November 08, 2012, 11:17:13 am
As DD says Gert. Use a mixture. I hope to make this soon.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Delightful Den on November 08, 2012, 01:02:25 pm
Thanks Den I think I will blend the flour before before adding.  I will have to start it tomorrow. As I may be without my Thermothingy after Sat.

Good luck to me.

Gert

I hope your Thermothingy is not unwell again.  :(
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: gertbysea on November 08, 2012, 08:12:43 pm
No it is fine . My DD's is suffering and has to go to hospital. As she has Crohns I feel I must lend her mine as she relies on hers so much. We think it is the same problem as mine and her Thermothingy is a whole lot younger than mine.

Gert
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: cookie1 on November 09, 2012, 11:40:21 am
I hope DD's machine gets well soon.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: gertbysea on November 11, 2012, 11:19:59 pm
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/12/zemyreme.jpg)

Finally able to put my first loaf here with Tapatalk.

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I substituted strong espresso 50 mls  instead of instant coffee and I used cracked rye instead of polenta.

Gert
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: achookwoman on November 12, 2012, 03:02:22 am
Gert,  looks very good to me.  How does it taste?
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: Kimmyh on November 12, 2012, 04:29:24 am
Wow Gert its impressive you must be pleased.
Title: Re: Sourdough pumpernickel
Post by: gertbysea on November 12, 2012, 12:06:12 pm
It has a wonderful flavour and I am very proud of my first delivery.

Gert