Forum Thermomix
Welcoming Center, Management and General Chat => Chit Chat => Topic started by: Debbiebillg on October 07, 2012, 01:25:36 pm
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I have been offline for a few days so I apologise in advance if anyone has already posted about this, I did a quick search and couldn't find anything in Chit Chat, so here goes ......
My laptop has been running like a dog lately when using this site only !! My kids do get on my pc and do all sorts but ?? Anyhow I have been whinging at my techo head DH about not being able to get on the forum properly (for about a week I think)....... I could connect but it was verrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyy slow to load a page ! So I just couldn't use it. So, today he has had my pc in bits thoroughly cleaned it, wiped everything and reinstalled windows etc etc
So I went into google, and in the address bar at the top I typed in www.forumthermomix.com and it takes me to www.recipecommunity.com.au ???? How did this happen ??? Once I hit enter I can see the address change to Recipe Community ?
If I do a google search for Forum Thermomix and then click on Forum Thermomix in the returned search then it takes me here !
Is anyone else finding this as well ? So is this HO taking control and redirecting everyone ?
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Oh oh Debbie. Very interesting. Hackers,at work on several THERMOTHINGY blogs as well. Lots going on.
Gert
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Sorry to hear about your problems Debbie but I am having no trouble myself. If I type forumthermomix into google, I get an advert right up the top for 'the official Thermomix website - Recipe Community'. Below that is the link to our forum. You aren't clicking onto the ad are you? Probably not because you say what you type changes and takes you straight to Recipe Community. If you like I can let MM know about your predicament and see if he has any answers or you can wait for more replies from our members to see if anyone can shed some light on it.
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Sometimes unethical business's register domain names that those who have the original legitimate site haven't registered. Perhaps RC has registered the forums .com.au domain name so they can sidetrack people who are looking for the forum. Has happened to me in business and the person who did it is a nasty piece of work. for some people money is more important than leaving well alone.
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If this is happening, then perhaps MM should know about it CP.
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I just showed my DH. Judy, I don't think it can be my pc now as it's been totally rebuilt !. If you open a new screen and go to www.google.com.au, at the very top of the screen where it says http://google.com.au (not in the blank bar where you type in whatever you want to search for). If you click on the http://google.com.au it will allow you to replace the text and then I typed in www.forumthermomix.com.au which SHOULD take me directly to this forum. After I hit enter it changes to recipe community. It happens on my DH's computer too.
Something very fishy is going on ! CP you could be right !
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OK, I will report this to MM.
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Did you try it CP or JD ? Yes JD, I would definately report it ........... it's definately not right !
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Maybe because for here it is: www.forumthermomix.com and not .com.au ?
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I think this forum is .com so they prob have registered .com.au. With domain names you need to register the whole lot available ie .biz. Etc and the you need to register similar you also have to make sure you renew on time cos these sort of people will buy it the moment it becomes available. The mind boggles because MM will prob need to register other countries as well eg. com.nz. (If it hasn't been taken already :-)))
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I tried your way Deb and I see what you mean. Then Julie hit the nail on the head - I did it her way and it goes to our forum as there is no .au in our name. It is not an Australian forum, we have just flooded it with Aussies.
Yay for Julie xx
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Of course ......... yeh I just tried it again and yes I was putting .com.au instead of .com BUT I have done that before by habit (as everything normally ends with .au) and it normally doesn't find anything, it gives you some kind of error that it doesn't exist ! So HO must have jumped in and registered it. Very sneaky actually !
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OK, problem solved but MM has been informed of it just for interest sake. Good job girls :-*
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Hi Debbiebillg -- yes, it appears you may have inadvertently clicked on the ad which appears at the top of the search results when someone types "forum thermomix" into Google -- from Australia. (Friends using non-Aussie versions of Google won't see the ad.)
It's not a case of hacking, but more a case of "strategic marketing". From my vantage point here, it appears that the Australian HO got savvy in May of 2012 and registered the .au version of forumthermomix.com on May 18. Although a legit move, it could also be considered a dirty underhanded move by some.
They are trying to cash in on the popularity of and the traffic received by this fabulous forum. They were slow to get into online marketing, so now they are scrambling to catch up and one way is to piggy-back on the stellar reputation of this forum and the unwitting nature of some people who will be searching for "forum Thermomix" in Google.
Its somewhat surprising to me that they are paying for a Google ad, but not surprising to see they are trying to compete with this forum. The same thing happened to me when the HO in Malaysia got savvy and registered a Malaysian extension of my blog's name/url. They saw the SuperKitchenMachine.com was coming up high in Google when people searched for Thermomix info, so they proceeded to register SuperKitchenMachine.com.my. Not only that, but they also created a YouTube channel called "SuperKitchenMachine". (my own YouTube channel is "Thermomixblog") They have since produced marketing materials and at least one large public billboard in Malaysia which screams SUPER KITCHEN MACHINE. :o I was a bit gobsmacked when it happened, but it shows they know how to play the game market aggressively online. At the time I wrote to them and offered "If you like the name so much, maybe you want to buy the blog...and then you can have it all!" But they weren't interested :(
Life certainly is interesting in the land of Thermothingies, isn't it?
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Good heavens above!! How pathetically sneaky - and to me, unethical! But then, what do I know :-)) ;) It may not be hacking - but just as
good bad as . . . :o
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Hi All,
Sorry for late reply. Had a lovely weekend away... sun sea food :)
So it seems that the issue has been explained. We are just plain old .com and nothing else.... However will be working on SEO soon (my profession) so that we get more natural rankings for various ketwords. FYI, people actually prefer to click natural rankings than paid ads in Google.
Anyway, god bless this forum. Going from strength to strength. Spread the message of out great community. We ain't seen nothing yet.
Nigt night all. Going to bed
MM
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Yes MM and Helene, it certainly is very interesting ! I'm amazed at Thermomix Malaysia too, that really is dirty play ! It seems in business these days there is no limit to what they will do !
I remember when researching Thermomix before I bought mine (just a couple of years ago), doing a google search for Thermomix only returned a few links ....... these days there are heaps !!
Ohh, Also, I typed in thermomixforum.com.au and it also directed me to Recipe Community, so they've registered that too ! HO must be soooooo insanely jealous of this forum to go to those lengths !
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Thanks for your reply MM. Had to look up SEO :-)) - ah ha, search engine optimization for those dummies like me ;D
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Thanks for your reply MM. Had to look up SEO :-)) - ah ha, search engine optimization for those dummies like me ;D
Judy I wondered what that was too lol was going to look it up later on ! Techo people have their own language lol
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That was great spotting Debbie.
HO au must have finally got themselves a savvy IT person. Instead of trying to copy, mimic, steal, imitate, and mock maybe they should concentrate on making their own " forum" better. What a joke. Better still they should encourage all their customers to find the sites that inform them best with usuable tried and true recipes. Also they need to smarten up their boring and outdated bland site. They can work behind the scenes but they sure know bugger all about how to really attract the smart ones to their site. Boring boring boring and it seems just one person all the time reviewing the same old things.
Seems we hae a great deal of clued up customers right here MM?
Well done us.
Gert
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Have been having quite a few problems trying to connect to forum lately this is what comes up on my screen, maybe my computer but no other problems with other sites
Connection Problems
Sorry, SMF was unable to connect to the database. This may be caused by the server being busy. Please try again later
Marie
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I have been getting the same message as well. Interesting.
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Nothing can be done about it unless you have a "branded" name like quotas, coca cola etc that some one has registered. I found this out when this despicable person registered my domain names after my IT people only registered .com this person went ahead and registered .com.au (which is what I should've had in the first place anyway). She would not give them up and said "everything has its price" so I went and changed my domain name altogether and registered every possible domain associated.
Shame on you Australian franchise for this wonderful machine for stooping so low. One good reason to bookmark this website.
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Marie, I've been getting that message to so just presume the forum is down for a short time for maintenance work or something like that. If you can access other sites, you know it is just a forum problem and luckily they have been very short off air times.
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I am mainly on the forum at work and it is often really slow and sometimes have connection problems when going from page to page, like 5 minutes ago. I then close down and try again in a few minutes
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I have had the same message while trying to post here as well, as Courton and Emme.
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As Judy said it must be the forum as I had the same message
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This is all very interesting but not at all surprising knowing what lengths to which certain nasty people will go. Success breeds jealousy.
Usually these people will engineer their own demise. I find word of mouth loudly will often do the trick with tricksters.
These people thrive on putting some people down , waste so much energy trying to bring others down and in the process do not pay attention to taking care of their own business. Big mistake.
Sadly CP there are many despicable people trying to hijack someone else's work for their own benefit. Worse still there are many people willing to aid and abet It is no different in the THERMOTHINGY world.
Eventually the people at the bottom and the tippy top get sick of these tactics and rumours start flying around the Thermothingy world. The Thermomix reputation in Europe is one thing but here?????
Keep your eyes and ears open. Something good may be happening in the future. Some things take time so patience is needed.
Gert
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My DH is the tech-savvy person in our house - and after he saw how much time I spend on the forum, he changed my internet homepage to the forum, so as soon as I connect to the internet, the forum is the first page that automatically comes up ;D ;D Not that I EVER let it distract me from whatever I went on the internet to do in the first place :-))
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:D :D :D
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My DH is the tech-savvy person in our house - and after he saw how much time I spend on the forum, he changed my internet homepage to the forum, so as soon as I connect to the internet, the forum is the first page that automatically comes up
HA HA KarenH... as we say here... " he certainly knows which side his bread is buttered on " ;D :D ;)
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I have been having the same connection problems also :(
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Karen keep your DH :)
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Same prob here, but thought it was us in isolation in the Bush.
I have my own way of dealing with nasty people who think they are in competition. Be generous and share like mad. They can't compete with this. This is what this Forum is all about.
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Same prob here, but thought it was us in isolation in the Bush.
I have my own way of dealing with nasty people who think they are in competition. Be generous and share like mad. They can't compete with this. This is what this Forum is all about.
Pity it is so one sided though chookie! Some people are slow learners.
Gert
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I have been having the same connection problems for a while now and thought it was my laptop dying
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I have reported to MM the trouble we are having from time to time with connecting issues so hopefully he will be able to get to the bottom of it.
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Same prob here, but thought it was us in isolation in the Bush.
I have my own way of dealing with nasty people who think they are in competition. Be generous and share like mad. They can't compete with this. This is what this Forum is all about.
I agree Chookie, nothing annoys stingy, meanspirited, sneaky people than a spirit of generosity, sharing and openess. :)
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Same prob here, but thought it was us in isolation in the Bush.
I have my own way of dealing with nasty people who think they are in competition. Be generous and share like mad. They can't compete with this. This is what this Forum is all about.
I agree Chookie, nothing annoys stingy, meanspirited, sneaky people than a spirit of generosity, sharing and openess. :)
Couldn't agree more!! Well said!!!!! :D
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Morning all,
Seems like the forum is working fine. Please let me know if it is still playing up.
Thanks
MM
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I've just got to read all about this intrigue. I also have had problems and thought it was our computer/Internet Interesting.
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I haven't had any problems, but I haven't been on a lot lately.
I use Google Chrome as my browser and all your popular pages appear as images on your home page, I just love it.
HO have actually connected the www.forumthermomix.com.au to their recipe community home page. If you type it into your browser, it will go straight there. That's deceitful, IMO.
I think we should change the domain to www.theunofficialthermothingyforum.com or maybe just thermothingy.com!
:D
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Deceitful yes but smart finally and perfectly legal. It is all about google and the workings behind the sites that is important in the cyber world. It would not be advantageous for MM to migrate this site to a new name and especially and THERMOTHINGY name as no one but us would be looking for a THERMOTHINGY . LOL!
It is really all about nastiness and getting traffic to a very unpopular site.
I am so falling out of love with my THERMOTHINGY and thinking about an upgrade to a Gastro which does more interesting things. To be honest the Varoma is not really needed. I have a steamer which is far more efficient to use when needs be. I just join the HMP forum so hopefully it will complement this wonderful forum without taking anything away from here.
My THERMOTHINGY is now 3 years old.It has a hole in the timer button . The numbers have worn off and the switch on is wry temprmental.
Should I spend the money getting it serviced or should I invest in a bright new up graded Thermo machine without all the baggage?
Gert
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I know what I would do Gert. let me know.
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I think if I was getting one now I think I know which one I'd get ! Might join up on the forum for future reference !
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Is there a forum up and running? Did I miss something . . . ?
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Sorry Gretchen, had to delete the link to that forum as MM would not approve of it. I'm sure it would be easy to find if people really needed to or they could pm you. :-* :-*
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Happened to see that forum yesterday as I was browsing. Gretch you could see if you can get a new rubber button and face for the TM, it may not cost much and would be better for resale or just preserving it. I know what you are getting at tho. You know that you would use the other machine, so go with your head and heart.
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I've put a post on my blog at MM's request. http://bushgourmand.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/thermomix-forum.html (http://bushgourmand.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/thermomix-forum.html)
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Well done!
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I've put a post on my blog at MM's request. http://bushgourmand.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/thermomix-forum.html (http://bushgourmand.blogspot.com.au/2012/10/thermomix-forum.html)
How good is that!! Excellent!! :D
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Well done MJ - great idea
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I suggest that we all mention this original and best forum on all our websites, forums,, Facebook pages and twitter.
Gert
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That's a great idea MJ
Marie :)
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Just checked it out MJ
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Great idea MJ, I don't have a blog, so just made a comment under your blog post supporting what you said :)
If others with blogs let us know I can do the same, I guess it's all about talking and mentioning www.forumthermomix.com to create as much 'talk' about this site as opposed to the other one....I think the more www.forumthermomix.com is mentioned online the more likely Google will 'bump' it or keep it at the top when people search for it....
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The word mendacious comes to mind.
If you are interested in who purchased the domain name you need only to go here.
http://tools.whois.com.au/whois/?domain=Forumthermomix.com.au&rd=
My my.
Gert
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Yes Jamberie, that is the idea.
I will do the same on my 2 Blogs. Will have to learn again how to link. JUDY, why do you live sooooooo far away.?
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Great work Get, I only wish I had've thought to do that!
Then you coukd Google the person's name with thermomix at the end...... ;)
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Well we do know who this person is , especially if you have ever had a phone call in the middle of the night! LOL!
Gert
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Yes Jamberie, that is the idea.
I will do the same on my 2 Blogs. Will have to learn again how to link. JUDY, why do you live sooooooo far away.?
Judy is the centre of our universe. We must go there. LOL! ;D ;D
Gert
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Judy is a legend, always there to find something and link for us....
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Yes Jamberie, that is the idea.
I will do the same on my 2 Blogs. Will have to learn again how to link. JUDY, why do you live sooooooo far away.?
Chookie try this thread (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=8052.0). I only learned how to insert a hyperlink last week. Andies instructions are really easy to follow.
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I like to actually see a link before I click on it. Either way is good .
Gert
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Thanks Michele, it is all coming back now. I am like a monkey, unless I keep doing it ,I forget. ;D
Gert , you are even further away than Judy. I can now post photos how you showed me,, without looking at the instructions. i sure am making progress. ???
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Ok, I know we have discussed this ad nausaum but HO Australia just does not understand the basic ABC of marketing. Here we are promoting the product in everything from the title to various discussion topics but all HO AUS can do is to treat this forum as an ENEMY. How weird is that?!!!!
Do TMX distributors in other countries behave similarity? In other words is HO in Germany encouraging this?
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who knows, I don't think so....very sneaky by HO.
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Try this way Chookie http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=8052.0
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Yah, did it the way Gert likes too. Two new things in a week. ;D
This old dog is learning new tricks.
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The word mendacious comes to mind.
If you are interested in who purchased the domain name you need only to go here.
http://tools.whois.com.au/whois/?domain=Forumthermomix.com.au&rd=
My my.
Gert
Interesting ! They also registered thermomixforum.com.au ......... hmmmmm
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Thanks Michelle for all your encouragement. The problem is that my blog has new settings that i am still coming to terms will. The fact is they have made it simpler for idiots like me to use. There are now less steps, but of course i was trying to make it difficult. ???
Got it now and am linking all my recipes back to the forum. Yah. Thanks to Judy and Andi for all your directions. Trying to apply them to the Apple helped me work out the logic of it. ( Not that i am a very logical person.)
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It is so annoying when they make the old simpler way simpler. Just makes everyting so much more complicated.
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Chookie, I've learnt a new way that doesnt take up as much room on the forum webpage as tapatalk...
Rob has put some easy directions for iPads. Here it is (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=11340.60). Couple of practices is all it takes.
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Is any one else having connection problems today. Same problem/message as before.
Marie
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Fine here today, had a problem yesterday though
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No problems here, today or yesterday.
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All fine here today also :)
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fine here
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Problems here today :(
PM not sending ???
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I am having funny occurrences when I hit the back button. Of course it may well be me and the iPad. I get connected to some thermomix blog I haven't heard of. I think it must be me actually.
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Cookie, may be the iPad, as mine takes me to funny places sometimes.
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Probably the operator in my case. :) :)
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Mine does too but I found out how to get rid of it and return to the forum. I'm am always sure it was nothing I did, they just seem to pop out of no-where but surely we have to touch something for it to happen :-))