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Welcoming Center, Management and General Chat => Chit Chat => Topic started by: brazen20au on May 29, 2009, 05:35:28 am
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will put some links in here in a few days ;)
(trying to get ready for a party tomorrow and too much to do!)
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Hi Everyone,
So what is the FAILSAFE diet? FAILSAFE is an anagram (well sort of) of a diet free of additives, low in salicylates, amines and flavour enhancers (FAILSAFE) for health, behaviour and learning problems. We've been additive free in our household for about a year but decided to do the FAILSAFE elimination diet about a month ago. It has certainly been very challenging, but having a TM31 made life a lot easier. We've had mixed success so far, but I've been pleasantly surprised by how much calmer I have been. Now I just need to find the food triggers....
For more information please go to http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/
Best wishes,
Karen3
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Thanks karens
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Have also done the failsafe elimination diet and had amazing results!!
We are not as strict now but still eliminate all preservatives, colours, flavours and flavour enhancers. This is not as difficult as completley failsafe and the kids are still calm and happy (most of the time)!
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i'm thinking of doing it for myself to try to work out what affects me. i wouldn't mind doing it for the kids too (especially ryan) but i'm not sure i'd have dh's support to do so...
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I was amazed at the change in the kids by just cutting out the additives and preservatives. I use the little card of codes found on the fed up website and always take it shopping. Anything with those numbers i dont buy. You do have to be careful as they are sometimes not listed either. Just need to use common sense ie canned soups, pasta sauces, tinned spag all have MSG which is not always listed.
My hubby thought I was loopy when i first started but doesnt mind now he has seen the changes!
It really is just eating more fresh and homemade foods rather than bought biscuits, snacks, drinks etc. Which is easy with thermomix!
There is also a failsafe cook book by Sue Dengate which is fantastic! Heaps of recipies from snacks to deserts.
I would recommend anyone with kids to have a look at the website and just try cutting out those codes for a month, even if you dont want to do the whole Failsafe diet. You WILL notice a difference!
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In our home I've tried to cut out whatever nasties I can (perservatives, additives, flavours etc) and have noticed a huge change in DD and my health (particulary asthma developing out of chest infections each time we got a cold). Now after DD goes to XH's home where she eats mostly processed foods she has a huge change in behaviour for the worse and often comes home feeling ill and looking like she's developing a cold. After a couple of days at home she is right again.
Think I'll order the book "fed up" and learn more and how to manage our bodies better.
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for the failsafers, do you recommend the fed up book or the cookbook if i was to buy one only?
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Depends on what info you want - the fed up book has lots of info on the health effects of the individual chemicals and additives and the common foods they are found in. The cookbook has some of the same info in the intro and first few chapters and then heaps of failsafe recipes and ideas.
I just borrowed the fed up book from a friend to read. Then bought the cook book as i was going to use that more and wasnt confident with creating failsafe meals from scratch. Lots of good ideas and similar info to the fed up book.
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Thanks RV that's good to know! ;) ;D
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i think i might try to borrow them both from the library first ;)
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Good thinking Karen! I never think of the Library - actually I could probably safely say it's been 10-12 years or more since I've stepped inside our local one. Just told Miss 3 (who is home today after being too worn out from her party yesterday) that we'll head up there now - very excited!
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Hi Everyone,
Karen - the ACT libraries have the Fed Up series of books. I borrowed them first and then bought the cookbook. I still borrow the books from time to time. I can breath easier since avoiding certain preservatives.
Cheers,
Karen3
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i've ordered both, 1st in the queue for one and 2nd for the other. hopefully won't take too long...
i do try to avoid colours and preservatives but i have to say that it's hard to get lollies in paritcular that are gluten free AND ok with colours etc. snacky things like twistie things etc too. (not that we eat stuff like that often but for the party on the weekend for instance...)
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Got the cook book today and on the waiting list for the other one.
i do try to avoid colours and preservatives but i have to say that it's hard to get lollies in paritcular that are gluten free AND ok with colours etc. snacky things like twistie things etc too. (not that we eat stuff like that often but for the party on the weekend for instance...)
Agree - it's hard. Grace had her party on Sunday at an indoor play centre where they cater. The food is pretty disgusting and I had talked to them about healthier options - but with no luck. Not even a fruit platter... Thankfully Grace doesn't have any allergies so I just had to bite my tongue and remind myself it was only for one 'meal'...
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Not good enough though ILB in this day and age with so many allergies in kids you would think they could offer some healthy additions. What could be easier than a fruit platter for goodness sake! When you get sick of the wine industry ILB, I reckon you could run a great children's play centre and cater for their parties. Just an idea ;D ;D ;D
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Not good enough though ILB in this day and age with so many allergies in kids you would think they could offer some healthy additions. What could be easier than a fruit platter for goodness sake! When you get sick of the wine industry ILB, I reckon you could run a great children's play centre and cater for their parties. Just an idea ;D ;D ;D
Thanks JD - it has run past my mind. Apparently the place is actually up for sale. A few of us Mums (and one or two who are business minded) were discussing how much better it could do with some changes. I'd love to get in there and cook all day with a couple of "Jeanies".
Customer Service in this town has a pretty poor reputation. To bore you... when I booked the venue, payed for the deposit and brought lunch (couldn't go there without letting DD have a play and it was right on lunch time) they still charged the fee for her to have a play. So I'd just pretty much committed to paying $200 and that's what I got for it... Even little things they could do - like book a party and get a couple of vouchers for the birthday kid to come back another time... free coffees for the parents... it wouldn't be hard and would do so much for their business. They promote that the birthday specials have goodie bags and all of that, but talking to other Mums who have had parties there they'd never seen them. They only brought the "lolly bags" (had about 5 in it) when I went up and asked for it).
But when it's too hard to actually purchase a couple of pieces of fruit for a healthier option, what do you expect?? I was shocked that I couldn't even bring a fruit platter because it's not covered by insurance - but I can bring the birthday cake... go figure??!! >:( >:(
So I completely feel for mothers of children with allergies - no wonder they feel like they're on their own. It makes me cross....
Sorry - now I'll get off my soap box .... it just frustrates me..... think I'd better go make a cup of tea ;)
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And it is this frustration that drives people like you to do something about it ILB - skip the cup of tea, have a nice Brown Bros wine ;) ;) Must google Wangaratta and read all about the place. I think that is where my S-I-L's friend used to run a caravan park if I am not mistaken.
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Hi
I did the RPA elim diet and am now mostly failsafe (with some mods) for the sake of my breastfed dd who has numerous intolerances
I hink that Friendly Food is more helpful than Dengate books when it comes to working out how to feed the family
It is 6 months today since I started.
While my daughter still struggles, particularly with weight gain, she is so very much happier than she was before i went on the elimination diet
i would love, love, love if there was somewhere safe i cd eat out - i think that is the hardest thing for me - no takeaway, no eating out. No getting caught at the shops and just grabbing X, Y or Z....
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I have a dream...... but so many doubts running through my head..... ???
We know of a few kids that have allergies to everything, and it's so hard for the parents and kids.
On a slightly different topic, Aldi have announced that they are eliminating 6 food colours that have been linked to causing health issues from their store by the end of the year. Refer to the press release:
http://www.aldi.com.au/au/media/img/04_media/20090610_ALDI_removes_food_colourings.pdf
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Where are you located Ralo?
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yes, yay to aldi!!!
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I am also a fan of the Friendly Foods book, and the new RPA guide to the elimination diet is very useful and practical. It explains things in a clear way which anyone (even men can just look at the graphs) can understand :-)
It also has more savoury options which I find the Failsafe cookbook lacks a bit....but it is designed for families with kids so I suppose that is the thought behind that.
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For anyone in NE Victoria - Sue Dengate will be talking in Wangaratta on the 31st of August. If you would like anymore details, please contact me and I can pass on the contact details.
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I too have had a Sue Dengate book for about 8 years but never did get round to the elimination diet. But having all that info while my kids were still babies has been invaluable to their health. I recently gave a 'Nasty Food Reward' to a Company that sells slushies at our Tuckshop. You can see it on Sue's website.
http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/extras/NASTY%20FOOD%20AWARDS.htm
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Bet you will be first in line to go and see her speak ILB ;) ;) My daughter once gave me a SFI subscription so that she could get a Sue Dengate cookbook for kids free.
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Yes JD, I am very keen ;) I haven't read a heap of her stuff, but do find the links between food and how it affects our body's very interesting. Apparently one of the primary schools have arranged for her to talk. A number of the parents have read all of her stuff and watched her DVD and made changes to their families diets with good results, and I believe their tuck shop has made a large number of changes too.
So would be extremely interesting from a personal level, and to also maybe another avenue for TMX if parents are looking for an easier and healthier solution... ;D
And besides... it's pretty exciting for little old Wang - :D :D :D I'm sure there are a couple of others here that could vouch for that.
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Well, if you go ILB, make sure you get the opportunity to sprout off about the TMX won't you ;) ;) Wang has come a long way since some of us on this forum though it was an Asian country :-)) :-)) bet you all got a laugh when you read that one.
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Well, if you go ILB, make sure you get the opportunity to sprout off about the TMX won't you ;) ;) Wang has come a long way since some of us on this forum though it was an Asian country :-)) :-)) bet you all got a laugh when you read that one.
I sure did!! And having a good ol' chuckle right now remembering that :D :D :D
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Wow - Sue spoke in Wangaratta this evening and I was very impressed with the number of people attending! It's so great to see so many becoming aware of the impact of what our modern "food" is having on our health and our kids.
Unfortunatly I wasn't there in my TMX gear due to a whole number of reasons. But we'll work our way in there soon.... ;)
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I am awaiting my failsafe cook book and fed up with additives, and have fed up with asthma and fed up with adhd coming to my local library soon. I have taken all artificial crap out of my kids diets and preservatives and have seen a difference, and even had my mum mention that they were so calm when we were there last ;)
I am wanting to delve further in and go full failsafe and then see what they have reactions too!
Am dreading this as i am sure with 5 kids what each kid can tolerate will be different :(
Any tips on doing it would be greatly appreciated :)
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Hey All,
Flagging the thread for follow up. We should have the Fed Up book and the Cookbook arriving next week. I managed to get it cheaper on Fishpond than through Sue Dengates web site, go figure.
Russell.
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Hello,
Just bumping this topic to see if any of the failsafers are still around?
We have been failsafe for about 20 months, would love to swap recipes ;)
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Bambi, thanks for bumping this topic. I don't have any recipes to swap as am new to TMX but am keen to read what other failsafers send in for swapsies.
For the non-failsafers, if you even think you may be affected by food it is worth giving it a crack. I have been failsafe for 3 months and am totally amazed by the results we have seen. I started it for DD4 who had the classic 'angel when doing what she wanted to do but devil when asked to so something she didn't want to do' behaviour. She has had a complete turnaround (we are now dairy free and on low salicylates (fruit and vegies)). One of the other major surprises is how it affected me. I had totally missed the link between how low you can feel eating additives and some natural foods (if you are intolerant to them). I thought I was tired because I have 3 young kids! Turns out I was more tired than I needed to be, as have heaps more energy (and carrying less kilos) since changing to failsafe. It was strange to lose weight dropping fruit in exchange for anzac biscuits and shortbread!
We are now looking forward to finding our level of tolerances over the next few months as I'd hate to miss out on all the amazing fresh fruit recipes I could make in the TMX, great soups and risottos etc. Maybe it'll be only one every now and then ..
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Thanks Mumofthree for your experience. I purchased the books to start as Miss 4 exhibits similar characteristics. Tends to wake a lot early (ie 5am) in the morning, has a lot of tummy pain (she's also gluten sensitive) and has quite a limited attention span too. Though working full times as well I have put it off for a while now. I just need to get myself organised, do some menu planning and sort out our routine to make meals really simple, quick and easy for lunches and after work.
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my son has a dignosis of autism, but failsae makes a huge difference to him.
I have so far made in the thermo for him:
pear sorbet
'spg bog' pasta (mince garlic spring onions cooked up and served with pasta
chicken rissotto
chicken drum sticks with golden syrup marinade
chicken won tons and broth
garlic dip
hommus
ice cream
pear muffins
pear juice
ive also made failsafe stock concentrate :D
He responds stronlgy to amins and sals so we are very restricted.
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I'm especially looking forward to trying out the failsafe rice pudding. My DD4 takes it to preschool 3 days a week instead of yoghurt and it usually either catches on the stove or boils over!
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You won't have that trouble with the TMX mumofthree ;)
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I made rice pudding last night for our dessert and it was so yummy (and so easy ;)).
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oh would love a recipe please!
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I just used the one from the Everyday Cookbook. Not sure if it is failsafe though (we aren't failsafers). Mumofthree may have a special recipe. :)
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My thermomix (Hugo) is arriving in 3 1/2 hours! I am soooo excited.
I will check the recipe in the EDC and let you know (just for interest) if it is failsafe.
If not, I'll try a failsafe version tonight and let you know how it goes....
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Oh hello!! I've just got my TMX last week and we've been Failsafe since early 2009 for my second daughter. She is sensitive to Sals and amines, so learning to cook with totally different foods has been....... interesting.
I have a blog now, keeping track of recipes I use. http://realfailsafemeals.blogspot.com/ (http://realfailsafemeals.blogspot.com/) I've changed it now that I have the TMX.
If anyone's looking for products they can buy, I'd suggect this website also: http://w4.allergytrain.com.au/Home/tabid/40/List/1/Default.aspx (http://w4.allergytrain.com.au/Home/tabid/40/List/1/Default.aspx) She's our dietitian. It's great becasue you can just tick the boxes of what youre looking for (eg low sals, gluten-free etc) and will show you the products that fall under YOUR category.
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LOL - welcome Molly/frillyknickers again ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Good to see your blog. It will be helpful to many :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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I have recently been diagnosed with allergies to pollens, grass and dust. The last 11 years I suffered with migraines and headaches, if I drink wine with sulphate's I have a headache within a minute.
The doctor thinks I have a nasal drip due to infected sinus's.
For many years I have had a diet with very little to no processed food, colours or preservative. Has anyone with similar found that failsafe has made a difference to them?
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I have recently been diagnosed with allergies to pollens, grass and dust. The last 11 years I suffered with migraines and headaches, if I drink wine with sulphate's I have a headache within a minute.
The doctor thinks I have a nasal drip due to infected sinus's.
For many years I have had a diet with very little to no processed food, colours or preservative. Has anyone with similar found that failsafe has made a difference to them?
Migraines can be caused by many different things but they all seem to be related to the constriction of the blood flow to the brain hence the severe pain. My mother used to have real bad ones which she thought we caused by chocolate however it turned out to be from strawberry and orange juices which are often used in the finishing of other food products. I have migraines and they are related to a drop in sugar level and the moon! Solution a handful of marshmallows!
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I didn't even see this! :o
We are failsafe for our 25 month old ds, started failsafe at 15 months, and saw instant changes, it was quite amazing actually!
He is also dairy allergic, and soy intolerant. He has become tolerant to dairy, to a degree now, a bit of hard cheese once a week is his tolerance. He can't yet handle things with a higher protein (yogurt, soft cheeses).
So we are fairly restricted at this point.
My favorite things in thermo are the making the pear jam and pear ketchup, sooooo much easier!
Will have to try the rice pudding. And search for a few more recipes, I've been a bit neglectful of thermie since becoming pregnant again!
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I didn't even see this! :o
We are failsafe for our 25 month old ds, started failsafe at 15 months, and saw instant changes, it was quite amazing actually!
He is also dairy allergic, and soy intolerant. He has become tolerant to dairy, to a degree now, a bit of hard cheese once a week is his tolerance. He can't yet handle things with a higher protein (yogurt, soft cheeses).
So we are fairly restricted at this point.
My favorite things in thermo are the making the pear jam and pear ketchup, sooooo much easier!
Will have to try the rice pudding. And search for a few more recipes, I've been a bit neglectful of thermie since becoming pregnant again!
Failsafe? sorry but don't understand what you mean here.
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This should help you understand Mindmapper ;) ;)
http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/failsafe.htm (http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/failsafe.htm)
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This should help you understand Mindmapper ;) ;)
http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/failsafe.htm (http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/failsafe.htm)
Ahhh OK but these are not things which trigger migraines, they might trigger other medical issues
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my son has a dignosis of autism, but failsae makes a huge difference to him
I also have a son with autism and we went failsafe with him for about 2 years. The difference it made to him was amazing ( I only wish I had my tmx then ) . We now find that he can have some dairy , yoghurt and cheese and limited gluten Spelt and some wheat is fine. The first few weeks are the worst but it is so worth it ... good luck everyone
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Mindmapper, it's specifically a thread about Failsafe and Thermomix ;) They trigger many problems with my son, from sleeping issues to behavioral issues. I have no experience with it helping migraines though.
Molly, what a wonderful blog, lots of new ideas there, and some nice and simple dinner ideas (we all know how dismal dinner time can get in a failsafe household!)
Bambi, you know I love your blog, must go back for some more inspiration!
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Oh, thank you LeeJ. It's very nice to hear feedback. I use it myself for inspiration too. Sometimes I just can't think WHAT to make, and it all seems so BLAH..... so I get on there and remind myself what works. :)
Mindmapper1, did you not see the title of this thread?? ;D (Obviously, not Mindreader1)
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Molly, I did the lamb chop 'roast' last week, was loved by my hubby, and ds loved the spuds (he's never been keen on lamb LOL, worth a try though!)
Will certainly be using your blog some more, has been so nice to have some fresh, simple ideas.
We have been going 'off the band wagon' a bit of late, I've been quite sick for a month now, and it has really bought the safe meal reserves to a halt. Back to it now, and seeing a much improved little boy now we are back to it!
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Oh, thank you LeeJ. It's very nice to hear feedback. I use myself for inspiration too. Sometimes I just can't think WHAT to make, and it all seems so BLAH..... so I get on there and remind myself what works. :)
Mindmapper1, did you not see the title of this thread?? ;D (Obviously, not Mindreader1)
I responded to a post about migraine which was included in the original post about failsafe actually
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IN regard Migranes, the natural chemical Amines can be a culprit (found in chocolate, some fruits and vegetables, and nuts).
We are loving thermie for being failsafe. My Full steam ahead cookbook has a heap of post it notes on it to show where the recipes are that we can eat (or easily convert).
I've had my thermomix since October last year.
We tolerate Sals so somethings we eat wont suit all but thought I'd write a list for you to see anyway.
Dim Sums (Use 300grams Chicken and 30grams shallots and 1tsp salt, mix speed 6-7 until a minced consistency about 10 seconds maximum for the filling). Full Steam Ahead.
Apricot Chicken Rissotto. I have been tempted to try it with pears instead too, however as yet have not got there.
I have made failsafe stock concentrate too, and now we adda zuchinni in as well, but it works well with just the failsafe veggies.
We have the everyday cookbook rice pudding minus the spices regularly. I puree pears to go with it and its delicious, kids love it.
I do the Mushroom risotto with carrots and zuchinni instead of mushrooms.
Spag Bol, EDC, just substitute the tomato puree with equal weight of pear ketchup. (Add in any safe veggies).
I use the spag bol with the EDC mashed potaot to make shepherds Pie.
The bread from EDC is made 4-5 times a week.
I modiefied the hot cross buns to suit us (although still used the spices not really sure how they would go without the cinemon).
There must be more, I only cook with thermie now, with the exception of lemon butter which I just cant get thermy to do like I want.