Forum Thermomix
Thermomix Recipes for TM5 and TM31 => Bread => Topic started by: Lexi on July 22, 2012, 07:06:43 am
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Has anyone used both for making bread? How does the TMX kneading compare to a KA kneading? Asking because a friend has a KA but never used a TMX and I've never used or seen a KA to tell her :)
Hoping someone here has used both :)
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I don't have a KA but have a large kenwood chef.
I still use my kenwood more for bread as it takes double quantity, two loaves at once.
However I knead longer in Ken. I also use a system called autolyse which means I wait 15 mins at certains times.
I am still experimenting with the two, but one loaf versus 2 is a no brainier for me.
Or I make 3, one in *: and two in ken.
Will do that this week and study the differences, will photograph proceedings and report back. Chookie and Andie are the bread gurus on here.
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that would be so much appreciated if I can get thoughts on the two, thank you so much :)
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I haven't made bread in my KA, but I did make pasta for the first time in it the other day and have to say that it definately kneaded the pasta dough better than TMX, so I will be interested in the results DJ.
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Interesting discussion. I have large Kenwood like DJ but have never used it for bread making. Have made bread by hand, in bread machine and now TMX. Do think that the main difference may be in the amount of dough you can knead at one time. Have found that the same recipe made by hand or kneaded in TMX, come out the same. The TMX is just so much easier .
Why don't I use the Kenwood.??? I like to make different breads, so smaller quantities suit better. Same recipe, I think the proofing might be more important.
Will be interested to hear what you find out.
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I have a large Kenwood too, but it's in the cupboard. I have heaps of attachments for it. I prefer to make bread in the TMX, it is so much easier? I haven't used it for quite a few years and use a handbeater if I need a beater.
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so Cookie you would say other than size of dough to be kneaded, there's not much diff?
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I've never used a KA, but I much prefer doing my doughs in my breadmaker over the tmx. I just seems to have better rise and texture. It's also easier as I don't need to worry about rising time etc
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Hiya
I will get round to doing this, but not just now as too busy with harvest etc.
Maybe if we get bad weather again. Hope not though! ;D
Hope that's ok?
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No probs Droverjess, work comes first :) Hope you have good harvest :)
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DJ, what are you harvesting.?
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Thanks
DH harvesting canola, we call it rape.
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Apologies in advance for the ignorance, but what is a KA? Kenwood something I gather?
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A kitchen aid MEP
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Thanks Meagan. I have a KitchenAid and yes it is very good with dough work. We make a lot of cookies. The motor is incredible. My DH was originally from the US and grew up with KitchenAid appliances so had no reservations with spending $700 on the KA (now I know what KA is short for) for my birthday five years ago. Very happy mixer.
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DJ, that is the bright yellow one. We grow a lot of it here.
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Yes chookie.
Finish this lot later today.
Next week second lot.
Week after triticale and oats
Then the wheat.
Beans in september
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Do you keep some of the grains for your bread making.?
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Lexi I haven't used my Kenwood to make bread for years. I used to do it by hand before TMX as I find kneading dough very relaxing.
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At the last farm yes, depends on quality and variety etc.
Don't know about here yet. Have you ever used triticale for bread?
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At the last farm yes, depends on quality and variety etc.
Don't know about here yet. Have you ever used triticale for bread?
Yes as flakes.
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Ok what is triticale... Too lazy too google it?
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i think its a wheat, i will go and check
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i think its a wheat, i will go and check
Triticale is a cereal grain
Triticale has been developed mainly as a feed grain for livestock
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Thx uni... 😘
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Mel have you compared breadmaking in your KA to in your TMX?
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Hope you meant to type MEP, Lexi? Anyway, in case you did, I have only made play dough (once only and that was earlier today) and the pizza dough in TMX. I have used the KitchenAid for all other dough/baking work. In my humble opinion, KItchenAid is a far superior machine because that's what it's designed and made for. Hence, for just a stand mixer, it is rather expensive. TMX tries to do too many things, and some very well and some not so well, in my view.
You only have to look at the dough hook that comes with the KitchenAid and compare it to the blade of the TMX to see the difference. I have made play dough by hand in the microwave several times before and it's a beautiful dough. Earlier today, I made play dough in TMX and it came out all crumbly (because the blade cuts the dough). The dough didn't actually come together until after a fair bit of hand kneading. I may have done something wrong, but I don't think so.
Anyway, if you are considering purchasing a KitchenAid, I would suggest going to a department or kitchenware store and looking at all the attachments that come with the KitchenAid. Just the sheer weight of the machine is also impressive. For the record, I am not affiliated with KitchenAid and will not receive any kind of financial incentives for recommending it.
Hope that's of some assistance. :)
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MEP, I've made a couple of batches of playdough for the grandkids and have had no trouble at all. Have you seen this (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=1279.0) thread where faffa posts a successful recipe?
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I hadn't seen that Judy so thanks. However, this was how I made it as the recipe that's in my EDC is the same as that posted by Faffa. The recipe said to knead for 1 to 2 minutes so I kneaded for 2 minutes. The mixture was all crumbly but it did come together after a good knead by hand on the pastry mat like I said.
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MEP, I agree that TMX can't do everything. However you name a bread and I can work out how to make it successfully in the TMX.
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Yes I did mean MEP sorry.
All good points :) thanks, it's for a friend who has a KA, I have a TMX, but because she's interstate I cant show her my TMX lol. Thanks for all your comments very appreciated
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I hadn't seen that Judy so thanks. However, this was how I made it as the recipe that's in my EDC is the same as that posted by Faffa. The recipe said to knead for 1 to 2 minutes so I kneaded for 2 minutes. The mixture was all crumbly but it did come together after a good knead by hand on the pastry mat like I said.
when i find my mixture is crumbly a few sparys of water through the hole of the bowl will fix that problem ;D