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Title: Icing Sugar
Post by: Intrepidtrier on May 25, 2009, 06:02:03 am
Could someone please tell me what I am doing wrong when I make incing sugar?  I put it in and blitz it for the time they say and yet when I make icing it turns out real grainy. Tastes bloody terrible.  Sandy
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: judydawn on May 25, 2009, 06:27:07 am
Hi Sandy, just went out into the kitchen to blitz myself up some icing sugar so that I could report back to you.  Did 160g raw sugar for 15 seconds on speed 9 and it is quite OK.  I was wondering if your blades need sharpening. This time of the year we probably aren't using ice cubes as much as in the warmer months so maybe you need to crush some ice and sharpen them up a bit. Just a thought and worth trying. Even if it was a little grainy, can't see that it would make a lot of difference in general cooking but of course, if you were going to use it to ice a cake then I can see the problem.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Amanda on May 25, 2009, 06:32:09 am
Hi Sandy.  I find the icing sugar very grainy, too.
It's ok for putting into things, but no good for icing.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Paul on May 25, 2009, 06:42:03 am
Hi Sandy, just went out into the kitchen to blitz myself up some icing sugar so that I could report back to you.  Did 160g raw sugar for 15 seconds on speed 9 and it is quite OK.  I was wondering if your blades need sharpening. This time of the year we probably aren't using ice cubes as much as in the warmer months so maybe you need to crush some ice and sharpen them up a bit. Just a thought and worth trying. Even if it was a little grainy, can't see that it would make a lot of difference in general cooking but of course, if you were going to use it to ice a cake then I can see the problem.

Judy, does crushing ice sharpen the blades?
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: judydawn on May 25, 2009, 06:51:54 am
Well, according to my sales consultant it does.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Paul on May 25, 2009, 06:54:18 am
Well, according to my sales consultant it does.

Interesting!
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Amanda on May 25, 2009, 07:01:33 am
Yep, I was told the same thing.

Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: faffa_70 on May 25, 2009, 07:32:31 am

Well, according to my sales consultant it does.

Well it must be true!! I was told the same thing lol - I actually had the thought on the weekend that mine needed sharpening and the funny thing is I was making icing sugar to put on top of Brazen's Banana Yoghurt and Blueberry cake that DH made. Am off right now to do it while I remember and the kids are awake  :)
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: bron on May 25, 2009, 08:22:47 am
My icing sugar is always perfect. I use granulated sugar, and go progressively from 5 to 10, stopping 1 second on each number. Mine is lovely and fine. Maybe you are doing too much quantity in one go! How many grams did you try! 100 and 200g works perfectly for me, although I do blitz ice regularly! ;D
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: baf65 on May 25, 2009, 08:26:29 am
yes the ice does sharpen the blades, something to do with the Thermatic memory they have!
Ive never had problems with my icing sugar, I use raw sugar
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Paul on May 25, 2009, 08:30:10 am
Better go and grind some ice then  :D
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Thermomixer on May 25, 2009, 10:14:13 am
yes the ice does sharpen the blades, something to do with the Thermatic memory they have!
Ive never had problems with my icing sugar, I use raw sugar

It does sound counter-intuitive to have something hard helping improve the blades - but have seen it on a few different sites.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Paul on May 25, 2009, 10:37:52 am
yes the ice does sharpen the blades, something to do with the Thermatic memory they have!
Ive never had problems with my icing sugar, I use raw sugar

It does sound counter-intuitive to have something hard helping improve the blades - but have seen it on a few different sites.

Are we supposed to get the blades sharpened at intervals?  Or maybe ice will do the trick?  I really like the idea ice will be enough
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Thermomixer on May 25, 2009, 10:50:35 am
Ice should be enough to keep them sharp.  You can get replacement blades though - don't need the whole spindle or whatever you call it - they come in a pack with two blades and instructions on how to replace - say this on a Spanish blog?
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Paul on May 25, 2009, 10:54:38 am
Ice should be enough to keep them sharp.  You can get replacement blades though - don't need the whole spindle or whatever you call it - they come in a pack with two blades and instructions on how to replace - say this on a Spanish blog?

Well, as I've only had it for 5 minutes I don't think it's time to worry just yet
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: I Love Bimby! on May 25, 2009, 01:44:28 pm
The blades are made of soligen (? - haven't got the spelling in front of me sorry) steel and have a thermatic memory - so correct. At 4-5 C they return to their original "shape/sharpness".

I have had mine 12 months and haven't had to sharpen them, and I don't know if sharpening would be recommended.

For 100g sugar 10 seconds on speed 10 should be adequate.

Last night I did about 300g (I didn't weigh it) and blitzed it until it felt fine between my fingers - maybe 30-40 seconds for Grace's birthday cake and it was fine.  It's worth doing a couple of smaller batches than a larger batch as the bowl tends to heat up from the friction with larger volumes.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Intrepidtrier on May 28, 2009, 07:39:15 am
Thanks for everyone`s help and advice. Looks like I had better go and sharpen my blades up and try again. Will report back after I have tried again.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: cookie1 on May 31, 2009, 05:30:01 am
Thanks for that advice. :-* I didn't know that ice sharpened the blades. Sadly my consultant wasn't forthcoming on those sort of things. I will remember that as I doubt I'll be doing much ice crushing in the winter months.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: judydawn on July 09, 2011, 05:38:31 am
Just bumping this to see how people are going with their icing making these days.  Some people seem to be able to make smooth icing sugar, others grainy.  Mine isn't too bad but not suitable for icing a cake.  Anyone got the perfect method of making a nice smooth icing sugar without the crunch!  I used white sugar (not castor), blitzed 200mls for 15 seconds/speed 9 as per the book and then added another 10 seconds as it was grainy.  Felt pretty good after the 25 seconds but definitely grainy when made as an icing. 
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: johnro on July 09, 2011, 06:43:04 am
Judy I find it ok when I need a small quantity for butter icing.  However if I want butter cream and when icing cakes such as children's b'day cakes or similar where I need up to a kg of icing sugar I never chance having a grainy product that I produce without ultra care  :)  :)
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: dede on July 09, 2011, 06:57:35 am
I Find that its a little too grainy for me as well, I have just been buying my icing sugar. The thermomix makes it fine but just not quiet fine enough for me. I guess we are just spoilt. If the shops ran out of icing sugar then at least we can make the next best thing.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: judydawn on July 09, 2011, 07:00:26 am
Thanks girls, that's fine - can't expect it to do everything perfectly  :-*
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: twistiebrinkley on July 09, 2011, 08:25:36 am
Thanks for reopening the thread Judy - I just can't seem to get it right either and my little ones aren't satisfied with the grainy result (bless them!!) so it's back to the supermarket for me too unless someone comes up with a solution. 

As with the others, I've tried smaller amounts for longer times but nothing works for me, as you've mentioned before, it's a great result to 'be' in things, but not as an icing on birthday cakes.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Lellyj on July 09, 2011, 10:04:17 am
I have trouble with the icing sugar for icing thing too--plus if you make it with raw sugar it goes a caramel colour when you mix it which is not always what you want.  Will be interested to hear what others say.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: LeeJ on July 09, 2011, 10:16:49 am
I also have terrible trouble with making icing sugar. My rep seemed to think I just wasn't doing it right, but I have the same dilemma as you guys! It's no good for icing!
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Chelsea (Thermie Groupie) on July 09, 2011, 12:04:33 pm
Mine is better when my blades are freshly sharpened but still not the same as store bought icing sugar.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Cornish Cream on July 09, 2011, 12:59:11 pm
I'm afraid I always buy icing sugar.It's the one thing I feel I just can't master in the TM.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: Meagan on July 09, 2011, 02:54:02 pm
I am really surprised with your responses! I never buy icing sugar and only ever make it in the TM. I am having a break from baking a lot but will take notes next time I make some.
Title: Re: Icing Sugar
Post by: jkmt on July 12, 2011, 01:28:33 pm
I'm afraid that I'm not happy with my icing sugar either, and have reverted to buying store-bought stuff. From the day I bought the TMX I've found that even though it feels fine, the result was grainy in icing and I wasn't happy with the colour (from raw sugar). I do blitz most of my sugar for baking, and don't use icing that often, so it has just been easier to keep a packet of the bought stuff in the cupboard.