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Title: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: bellesy on March 05, 2010, 06:03:07 am
I'm experimenting with breadmaking and have come across this unique, very simple type of bread.  You don't knead it (although I know that's no problem in a TMX).  It's wet, sticky dough, and you mix up a big lot of it in 5 minutes, store it in the fridge and then just pull out a chunk of dough, form it without kneading and stick it on a pizza stone and bake it in the oven for your fresh daily bread.

You just use ordinary plain flour/all purpose flour, not bakers' flour.  When it goes in the oven, you put some water in a broiler tray so it steams up the oven and gives it a crunchy crust.

The full instructions and basic recipe is here:  http://www.motherearthnews.com/Real-Food/Artisan-Bread-In-Five-Minutes-A-Day.aspx

I'm trying it today, and used the TMX to warm the water up to lukewarm, 37 degrees, then added the yeast and salt, and gradually added the flour while mixing on a low speed until combined.   Then popped the dough in a bowl for proofing, and stuck it in the fridge.  It's baking right now, so I'll report back on how it goes/tastes.

The dough is good for about 2 weeks, and is supposed to get better each day.  You just cook it as you need it.

You can get variations on the basic recipe in the book:  http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/book/9780312362911/Artisan-Bread-in-Five-Minutes-a-Day

The recipe is not hugely reliant on having a TMX, but it was handy to warm the water and to save having to do the dough mixing by hand. 

Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: achookwoman on March 05, 2010, 06:11:10 am
This is all the rage in U.S.A.  at the moment.   How much do you mix up to store in the frig.?   I make a similar one based on sour dough which sits in the frig for up to 5 days.  Let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: bellesy on March 05, 2010, 06:27:52 am
OK, it's out of the oven (and half eaten already!)  :-)) 

I really like it!  For what it is, which is simple, homemade bread.  I could just detect a taste of yeast in it (maybe I used too much.  I had trouble measuring the yeast as the kids have taken off with most of my measuring spoons).  Very crunchy crust, lovely with butter and honey.  Would be perfect to eat with a tasty TMX soup.

A more healthy, wholegrain variation would be nice to try.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: judydawn on March 05, 2010, 08:34:19 am
Sounds pretty easy bellesy and worth a try. Are you able to take photos - perhaps next time.  Would love to see how it looks.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: TheCrone on March 05, 2010, 09:45:39 am
Been using the basic boule recipe for about a year now.  Mainly use it in pizza bases, English muffins, and lemon butter blueberry scrolls.  It's also fantastic as the basic for croissants.

Brilliant recipes on their blog

http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: bellesy on March 05, 2010, 11:02:44 am
Sounds pretty easy bellesy and worth a try. Are you able to take photos - perhaps next time.  Would love to see how it looks.

Yes, I did manage a quick snap, before the rest of it got eaten up.

(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii131/larabelles_photos/1324_bread.jpg)

It wasn't a really big/high loaf, not as high as a bakery-bought loaf. 
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: I Love Bimby! on March 05, 2010, 11:15:43 am
lemon butter blueberry scrolls.  http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/

Can I pretty please have the recipe for the lemon butter blueberry scrolls? My DD is addicted to blue berries  :-* :-*
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: bellesy on March 05, 2010, 11:20:30 am
lemon butter blueberry scrolls.  http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/

Can I pretty please have the recipe for the lemon butter blueberry scrolls? My DD is addicted to blue berries  :-* :-*

I think you'll find it here:  http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/?p=641 (http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/?p=641)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: I Love Bimby! on March 05, 2010, 11:22:50 am
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Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: achookwoman on March 05, 2010, 11:28:23 am
Bellesy,  this looks goood, I'll bet it is nice toasted.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: photocat on March 06, 2010, 01:28:53 pm
I like the idea of this bread, a little similar to sourdough perhaps, which I haven't had much luck with.
Going to give it a try tomorrow, methinks.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Meagan on March 06, 2010, 02:00:01 pm
I used to make this a fair bit pre 'Stephanie'  ;) It was fairly dense but a lovely loaf ;D I have the book so if anyone from WA wants to see it at the next meet just let me know :)
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Chelsea (Thermie Groupie) on March 08, 2010, 03:55:49 am
I can't wait to try the blueberry lemon butter ring.  It looks divine! I wanted to make it yesterday for a picnic but our chooks didn't lay enough eggs.  :D
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Thermomixer on March 09, 2010, 05:34:05 am
Thanks bellesy - it is always good to have these sorts of loaves on the list - so easy and ready to go when friends arrive.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: quirkycooking on March 09, 2010, 12:20:52 pm
I made the Artisan bread dough yesterday and cooked some this morning... YUM!!!  Thanks bellesy!  I used spelt - ground 250g grain, added 650g white spelt flour (I think), and it worked really well. I think next time I'll use more spelt grain (ground) - maybe half and half...

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xPQX2B20Qx0/S5YlMueHHaI/AAAAAAAAAxY/va_dKau5rbg/s400/Artisan+loaf.jpg)
Spelt Artisan Loaf

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xPQX2B20Qx0/S5YlfKaFQ3I/AAAAAAAAAxg/YgdnDrciwIE/s400/Artisan+couronne.jpg)
Spelt Artisan Couronne
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: I Love Bimby! on March 09, 2010, 12:22:33 pm
They look great Jo!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Amanda on March 10, 2010, 12:46:01 am
I have been making this off and on for over a year now, and it is very popular and very versatile.
We all love it - perhaps a bit too much!
I also have the book if anyone in Adelaide wants to catch up and have a look.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: andiesenji on March 10, 2010, 03:32:00 am
I've had the book since it was published here.  There has been a very active ongoing topic on eGullet (http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/topic/111794-artisan-bread-in-5-min-with-zoe-francois/page__st__570) about it with many interesting ideas and photos, twenty pages worth.

I bake the bread in a Le Creuset oval French oven so it comes out more or less shaped like an elongated artisan loaf. 

The longer it is left to ferment in the fridge, the better the flavor.   I often save some of the dough to add to the next batch and this enhances the flavor of the new batch. 

Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: I Love Bimby! on March 10, 2010, 11:19:19 am
Andie I can only imagine your kitchen. Everytime you speak of it there's something new - it must be amazing!  :) :-*
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: achookwoman on March 11, 2010, 08:33:21 am
Wow, Jo .  That bread looks good enough to eat ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: photocat on March 12, 2010, 02:57:20 am
I made this bread after seeing it here and it's fabulous! So easy and tasty....I'm sold!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: bellesy on March 12, 2010, 05:13:26 am
It's awesome, isn't it!  And so easy. 

Loved your pics, Jo:  sensational!

Here's my daily bread (since devoured with our lunch):
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii131/larabelles_photos/Dailybread.jpg)
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Thermomixer on March 12, 2010, 11:06:10 pm
OMG - that is bloody bewdiful (Australian for beautiful Isi ;) )

Lovely colour and crust - great work
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: GeraniumQueen on March 23, 2010, 05:33:33 am
That looks so yummy!
Would love to try but cannot find the recipe in the link, probably staring me right in the face...
Would really appreciate if someone could post it here for me!
TIA
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Amanda on March 23, 2010, 05:41:02 am
My recipe is on my blog
http://lambsearsandhoney.com/
Hope you enjoy it!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: GeraniumQueen on March 23, 2010, 05:41:57 am
Thanks so much for your quick reply Amanda  :)
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Thermomixer on March 23, 2010, 07:17:09 am
Wow Amanda.  Lorraine at Notquitenigella (http://www.notquitenigella.com/2010/03/22/no-kneading-bread/) has made one after seeing your recipe. Good work.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: achookwoman on March 23, 2010, 08:57:19 am
Amanda,  how much yeast is that in teaspoons?
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Amanda on March 23, 2010, 10:23:21 am
Amanda,  how much yeast is that in teaspoons?

About 1 & 1/2 Tablespoons, Chookie.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: achookwoman on March 23, 2010, 10:42:19 am
Thanks Amanda, might have a go.   I've just put a batch of 5 day sour dough in fridge but might do this next time.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: tonydav on May 31, 2010, 11:55:06 am
I made the "master" Artisan 5 minute recipe tonight. I only used the TMX to mix the ingredients but I'm still sure this saved a lot of work given how hard the TMX had to work at the end!

The only changes I made from the original were to use bakers flour instead of all-purpose, as they specifically mention you need to use unbleached all-purpose, and all of the "all-purpose" flour I found over here is bleached. My bakers flour is unbleached. I had to add and extra 1/4 cup of water per the directions on the site.

Well I must say this bread is awesome. For something so simple to make it came out spectacularly. I also used the dutch oven option as I don't have a pizza stone and the process with it seems easier.

In particular the crust is fantastic. The initial loaf has only a small amount left after minutes. Really should have taken a photo as with the sesame seeds on top looked great.

tony
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Thermomixer on June 01, 2010, 03:58:05 am
great to have successes tonydav.  Especially with recipes that look so simple but yield great results.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: tonydav on June 01, 2010, 04:21:14 am
As I said, very impressed so I'll certainly keep making this - next a double batch for the fridge!

I'd also like to try their whole grain recipe. (Well actually 75% whole grain is the only one they have on the web).  I have a 20kg bag of hard wheat and obviously easy enough to mill this in the TMX. Need to purchase some Vital Wheat Gluten before I try it though.

Will keep everyone updated.....

tony
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: quirkycooking on June 03, 2010, 12:00:49 pm
I make mine with about 75% whole grain flour now - I don't add gluten, and I use spelt and rye.  Works well, heavy, but never crumbly - we love it!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: tonydav on June 03, 2010, 04:52:23 pm
The "heavy" is what I'm afraid of. I'm trying to find something that the kids will be happy to eat all the time and take for lunches, and not just "cause Dad says it's good for us".  The basic artisan in 5 loaf tastes great, as good as anything I've had from a bakery IMO. The kids all love it, even the 22month old. If I can get a whole wheat (or 50-75%) that is as successful, with wheat I mill myself, I'll be happy!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Very Happy Jan on June 04, 2010, 03:39:08 pm
I Made the Berry & Lemon Curd Ring mentioned earlier in this thread. http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/?p=641
Used the Brioch recipe in the EDC.  After the dough had risen for an hour I halved it and made 1 Raspberry & Lemon Curd and the other I made using a half quantity of custard from the EDC, 2 granny smith apples chopped a few seconds in the TMX, cinnamon and raw sugar. Both were delicious.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: judydawn on June 04, 2010, 04:16:13 pm
They look great VHJ, bet you were as proud as punch with your efforts.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Thermomixer on June 07, 2010, 03:27:23 am
Great work VHJ - very impressive.   :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: cookie1 on June 08, 2010, 08:47:47 am
Clever lady. The look delicious.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on June 16, 2010, 02:36:30 am
I'm really wanting to make this bread, but can't for the life of me find the recipe for the master dough! I've looked on their website and also Amanda's blog, but all to no avail. It's probably staring me in the face....

Lately when I've been making my bread, I've been making 250g extra and putting the extra in the fridge to use in the next batch of bread. I forgot to do this for a while and the dough was left for two weeks. I threw it out and it had a strong alcohol smell, but it was probably quite alright to use!

Edited to add, that I found it!

Master Recipe (http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/?p=1616)
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on June 16, 2010, 03:11:42 am
Just wondering if anyone has converted this recipe to grams.
I've been reading on the site that if using high protein flour, you need to use 83% water. This is the formula to work out how much water to use:

.83 x flour weight.

I'm a bit pedantic about using percentage when making bread. It's a carry over from my skin care production. I use percentage to calculate my recipes for moisturisers, shampoos etc. and just can't help using them when making bread!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: tonydav on June 16, 2010, 05:09:28 am
I've made this about 4 times now (double mixtures). We go through a loaf a day with 3 kids hence it's great that it's so quick and easy.

I always use bakers flour as the crust is supposed to be the best.  This is the recipe I use allowing for the protein level.

Recipe for artisan bread here (how I make it anyway).
 
Put dry ingredients in bowl and mix together
6.5 cups (970 gms) Wallaby unbleached bakers flour **
16 gms dry yeast
15-20 gms salt depending on taste (I use 20gms).

Blitz turbo a few times to thoroughly mix the dry ingredients.

Add 3.25 cups water (810gms) lukewarm water **
Mix thoroughly on speed 7 for 2 minutes
DO NOT KNEAD the dough.
 
Once mixed put in 6L or so container with lid. Leave lid slightly ajar and put in warm spot for a couple of hours until fully risen. May take longer with current cold conditions. I left it out overnight once and didn't hurt. When fully risen it will start to "flatten" on the top. NFI what this means. Mine just stops rising.
 
Put in fridge.  You can cook at this stage but better to leave at least a day as flavours develop (I did of course cook a loaf the first time immediately after the rising time Smile emoticon)
 
When you want to make a loaf, dust top of dough with some flour. Have some baking paper ready. Oil hands with non-stick spray or oil. Cut off a chunk about 750gms. Roughly mold into shape by pulling tops around the bottom then put on baking paper. If you want to make more of a sandwich loaf put in a loaf tin instead. Mine is about 24cm long, 13cm wide and 7cm high. I use a strip of baking paper across the bottom and 2 sides to stop any sticking.
 
Cover with container or oiled gladwrap and rest for 90 minutes. Sprinkle sesame seeds on top, then dust flour and cut a few slices in top using serrated knife or scissors.  I don't always use the flour as I don't think it looks as good but it's supposed to help with the cutting.
 
Put glass half filled with hot water on bottom shelf of oven
 
Heat oven to 230 C.
 
Put bread in oven for around 30 mins until browned and cooked in middle (190-195 F in centre or cake tester comes out clean).
 
Remove from pan and put on cooling rack until at room temperature. Don't slice before cool.
 
 
Or to do as a "boule", as above but put on baking paper.
 
Don't need the glass of water. Preheat oven to 260 C with enamelled cast iron casserole dish.  After resting, cutting and sprinkling, *carefully* put dough, paper and all into casserole dish and put lid on.
 
After 20 minutes remove lid, reduce heat to 230 C and cook further 10 minutes or until cooked.
 
This last method gives the absolute best crust but is a pain for sandwiches.   
 
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: CreamPuff63 on June 16, 2010, 05:27:30 am
thanks tonydav for the recipe, and tips. unlike mj i was too embarrassed to admit that i couldn't find the recipe anywhere  :-[
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on June 16, 2010, 05:34:49 am
 ;D

I've made my master batch and it's rising on a sunny window sill as I type. I used the requisite 6 1/2 cups flour, but it weighed out at a 1000g? I did use 2 1/2 cups rye flour, which is probably heavier.
I used 830g water, but I don't think my mix is a sloppy as it should be. It's wet, but kind of like the 5 seed loaf, so I'm hoping it's OK.

I'll be baking my loaf tonight when I get home from our Council meeting, so I'll post and let you know how it goes!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Berry on June 16, 2010, 06:07:40 am
Thanks tonydav for such a detailed run-down.  This recipe appealed to me as I rarely have time in the mornings (or night!) to do the whole kneading/rising/cleaning up thing, so last week was my first bread-making attempt.  My first problem was the size of the container (I think it was about 4L, the biggest I had), so when it rose it lifted the lid a little but then just stuck to it.  When I lifted the lid it all deflated (though still clinging to the lid!), so I just whacked it in the fridge.  The next morning I forgot about the 40 minute resting time and was running late for work, so chucked it in a warm oven to warm it up a little (probably about 20 mins) and then crossed my fingers and hoped for the best.  It certainly looked the part (although a little small), and while edible it was very very dense.  There were so many stages that it could (and probably did!) go wrong I haven't had the nerve to try it again.  I also used plain flour as the stuff I had was unbleached.

Looking forward now to giving it another go.  Thanks again!  ;D
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: gertbysea on June 16, 2010, 06:40:17 am
Thanks tonydav.Tthis recipe is just too easy and is such a winner.Just to hack off a chunk and put it into the oven is fantastic. Sometimes I don't bother waiting and it has made no difference. Great for just the two of us and for making the odd couple of rolls for lunch. I too use bakers flour and mix it up with some others like rye for a change.

I just wet my hands and grab a hunk. It is too wet for making fancy shapes but great for the basic everyday bread.

Gretchen

Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on June 16, 2010, 05:02:29 pm
Well, not going to make it tonight as it's too late. I'm just having a cuppa and off to bed. I'll probably not get a chance to make this until tomorrow night as I'm busy all day tomorrow with meetings and appointments.

Will check back in with results tomorrow p.m.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Thermomixer on June 17, 2010, 08:10:17 am
Thanks tonydav - appreciate your work.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on June 17, 2010, 01:37:48 pm
Well, I was disappointed in my loaf. Heavy and way, way too salty. Basically inedible due to the salt. The recipe calls for 1 1/2 tablespoons. I should have thought before putting that much in... :-\
The crust was lovely, but the loaf didn't rise much.

I'll have to play with this some more. What do I do know with all that horribly salty dough in the fridge? I guess I'll make up another batch minus salt and see how it goes.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: judydawn on June 17, 2010, 02:03:04 pm
Could you use it as play dough MJ  :o :o  Disappointing isn't it when you have been having success with bread making to then have a disaster.  Did sound like a lot of salt, even if a recipe says 1 tspn, I only use 1/2 tspn. Wonder if the chooks would eat it, probably too salty for them too.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on June 17, 2010, 02:32:13 pm
 ;D Don't want to give the chooks heart disease!!

I'll make breadcrumbs from it, so not to waste. But, just not sure about the rest of the dough in the fridge. I think I'll chuck it and start again. All that salt would have affected the yeast, which was probably why it didn't rise as much as it should have.

I'll try again tomorrow!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: achookwoman on June 18, 2010, 12:26:45 pm
Meganjane,  are you using Laucke pre mix?  If so don't put any salt in as it's already added.  What have others done,?  when I read the recipe it did seem to be a lot of salt.   Cook the bread up and make bread crumbs and dry them if you don't have room in the freezer.   You can reconstitute them to be "fresh" crumbs if you don't brown them.   Don't give them to the chooks as you are correct it is not good for them.  The original recipe is American,  and I think that their Tablespoon is = to our dessertspoon,  if this is correct,  you have added too much salt and probably too much yeast.  Hope this helps and someone has correct info on the measurements
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on June 27, 2010, 01:32:26 pm
I made breadcrumbs with it and froze them. I made another lot, but added a bit more water as it didn't seem 'wet' enough or look like the pics on the website.
I use regular Wallaby flour, not a bread mix. I still wasn't thrilled with the result. Still heavy, so probably too much water. I have some still in the fridge that I added seeds to, so I'll give that one a try by adding more flour.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Chelsea (Thermie Groupie) on June 28, 2010, 05:32:02 am
I keep wanting to try this, but am not game yet.  Let me know when you perfect it MJ.  I have lost my touch with bread making and have had 3 flops in a row.  I think I am letting them rise for too long and they flop in the oven.  I get busy with other things and forget about them (and remember when I am in Kmart 2 hours later  ;)).
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: andiesenji on June 30, 2010, 12:29:52 am
I keep wanting to try this, but am not game yet.  Let me know when you perfect it MJ.  I have lost my touch with bread making and have had 3 flops in a row.  I think I am letting them rise for too long and they flop in the oven.  I get busy with other things and forget about them (and remember when I am in Kmart 2 hours later  ;)).

I also tend to lose track of time when I am busy with other tasks.  For instance, I have been doing a lot of gardening, early in the mornings because of the heat later in the day. 
My solution for several years has been to wear a timer hanging around my neck, which reminds me when I need to return to the kitchen to take care of something and also reminds me not to wander off to chat with my neighbors or take off to the market (or an attractive yard sale or similar event). 
This is the one I have now but have used less complicated ones in the past. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004S4U7?ie=UTF8&tag=gourmetorg00-20&linkCode=AS2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00004S4U7)

I'm sure a similar instrument is available in your country. 
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: quirkycooking on June 30, 2010, 02:02:44 am
What a great idea, Andi!  I think I need one of them - I get very easily distracted!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Chelsea (Thermie Groupie) on June 30, 2010, 05:19:45 am
Yes - what a clever idea Andi.  I keep waiting for the "fog" to lift from having a baby, but two years down the track I'm still no closer to clear thoughts.  :)
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Thermomixer on June 30, 2010, 07:34:10 am
Think I need something like that to hang around my neck !!  Good idea.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: andiesenji on July 01, 2010, 06:05:02 pm
Once you get in the habit of using it, you will find that it comes in handy for many tasks not related to the kitchen.

This morning I put it on to remind me to be in the house at 8:30 a.m. so I could hear the front gate signal when the satellite TV service man arrived.  Otherwise, if I am out in the "back forty" part of the garden, I can't hear it because the only outside speaker is on the deck on the other side of the house from the big garden. 
I do carry my cell phone with me and have received plaintive calls from service people out at the front gate, wondering where I am.
I really hate to keep people waiting (although it doesn't seem to be a problem on the other side) so this is an easy solution.

I also have one with a remote probe that signals when a roast or chicken, etc., has reached the desired temperature.  I depend on the various thermometers I use in the kitchen to give me a good result with little waste.  In the past I have had meats in the barbecue cook much faster than expected.
On one occasion I had two prime rib roasts, almost exactly the same size and weight, same ratio of meat to bone and with them both in the same oven one reached the desired temperature forty minutes before the other one.  I was astonished and very glad I had used the therm with the remote probe.   Had I not, that one roast would have been ruined.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on July 04, 2010, 03:43:33 pm
Wow andie, I would just love to see all the gadgets you have!!

A timer is a fantastic idea. I use an eggtimer in the house all the time. Things like putting a bottle of wine in the freezer for an hour, or to remind me to go back to my workshop to check something. I never thought to get a portable one!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: andiesenji on July 04, 2010, 05:58:33 pm
Here you see that I am wearing the timer this morning.  As I took the photo it had counted down to 1 hour 39 minutes of 2 hours.
I am marinating chicken thighs in a marinade that has to be stopped at 2 hours, otherwise the meat gets mushy, and the marinade actually has to be rinsed off.  I am going to pre-cook the chicken in the oven and later today it will go on the barbecue for finishing with a homemade barbecue sauce.  Some of my neighbors and I are getting together to celebrate the Fourth and my contribution is the chicken and a pile of tomatoes and bunches of lettuce from my garden. 
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h129/Basenjibabe91/Kitchen%20stuff%20old%20and%20new/Photoon2010-07-04at0841.jpg)

This timer is also a clock, has a strong magnet on the back so it can be stuck on a fridge or other magnetic appliance or ?.
It is small enough that it does not get in the way and if I do need to remove it, it has a pop-apart catch on the short strap so I can retain the neck cord, which reminds me that I am actually timing something. 

I do love gadgets!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: achookwoman on July 05, 2010, 06:46:18 am
Andi,  this is fantastic,  I'm wondering if a person who is so technically challenged could work it.?
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on July 05, 2010, 01:17:55 pm
Awesome! Can you give us a website where we could order one?
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: andiesenji on July 05, 2010, 07:41:53 pm
I couldn't find any reference to Polder kitchen timers  sold in Australia with a Google search.

However, when I did an eBay Australia search I found  this item, which has most of the same functions (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Kitchen-Cooking-Large-LCD-Digital-Timer-Alarm-Countdown-/150463590548?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Utensils&hash=item2308543094)  as the Polder I have.  Neat color too.

Since you know something similar is available, you might be able to source it at another store.

The Polder I have is  the  Polder 898-95 Clock, Timer and Stopwatch, Black.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: meganjane on July 06, 2010, 05:17:32 am
Thanks Andi, I'll check it out...
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: leaf on September 18, 2010, 10:48:51 am
I just read the recipe and thought I might warn everyone in Oz that the US tablespoon is 15 ml whereas the Australian tablespoon is supposed to be 20 mls.  The shops sell both sizes so it is worth checking what size yours is before using this US recipe.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: andiesenji on September 18, 2010, 05:04:32 pm
I just read the recipe and thought I might warn everyone in Oz that the US tablespoon is 15 ml whereas the Australian tablespoon is supposed to be 20 mls.  The shops sell both sizes so it is worth checking what size yours is before using this US recipe.


On page 3 of this topic  tonydav has converted the recipe to TMX  weights and measures guidelines.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: tonydav on September 18, 2010, 11:37:09 pm
What I didn't know until recently is that a US "cup" is different to our "cup".

US cup = 237mLs

as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_%28unit%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_%28unit%29)

Having said that, when I changed the measures I didn't notice any difference. I have however started adding bread improver (1gm per 100gms flour) and this has been a plus with a far more open hole structure.

Still the best bread for toast! I miss it if I have to use "normal" bread. I'd make about 3 loaves a week now.

FWIW, my current recipe, all converted (including those cup sizes :)) is:

710 g lukewarm water
add 15 g yeast
add 20 g salt
mix thoroughly with any residue from the last batch, normally use a stick blender for this
add 925 g unbleached flour
add 9 g bread improver
mix together, leave 2 hrs and put in fridge.

BTW: I always make a triple mixture as my loaves are pretty big. I'd get 2 from this mix. I don't use the TMX to mix anymore as for three mixes I need to do it three times - easier with a wooden spoon.

When making, remove from fridge and gently work into a ball shape by pulling the sides down to the bottom for a minute or so. Place on baking paper (if you want put sesame seed on the sheet first). Leave at most 90 mins and if hotter weather leave less. It's important not to let it over rise as otherwise you'll get very little "oven spring".

The cooking is a bit flexible and depends on the size of the loaf. Mine are around 800g-1kg.

I turn my oven to 230 C and when the oven is at about 150 place my enamelled cast iron caserole dish on middle shelf. When at 230 put bread, on baking paper in dish, cover. Cook for 45mins with cover on. Remove cover and keep cooking until fully cooked - around 10-15 mins. Should be a dark brown (not black) colour. Test with skewer (will still be a tiny little bit wet - it never dries out totally) or better use an instant read thermometer.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: JulieO on September 19, 2010, 02:17:20 am
I Made the Berry & Lemon Curd Ring mentioned earlier in this thread. http://www.artisanbreadinfive.com/?p=641
Used the Brioch recipe in the EDC.  After the dough had risen for an hour I halved it and made 1 Raspberry & Lemon Curd and the other I made using a half quantity of custard from the EDC, 2 granny smith apples chopped a few seconds in the TMX, cinnamon and raw sugar. Both were delicious.

I must have been living in the Twilight Zone because i've completely missed this thread.  ???

VHJ, I love your brioche rings, and I think they look better than on the original website. You've made me want to give these a try.  I recently made the Swedish Sexy Buns of Jamie Olivers that had blueberries in them and didn't like them at all.  Made them two days running in case it was just me, but no they were far tooo dry.  Anyway these look really good, thanks for posting a photo.  :)
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Thermomixer on September 22, 2010, 10:12:47 am
Thanks tonydav - good to see you around
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: bellesy on September 28, 2010, 12:45:35 pm
After making this no-knead bread quite a bit I decided to try Isi's bread rolls (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=2729.0 (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=2729.0)), and Isi's are much lighter/flufflier than the no-knead bread, which I find a little solid and dense.  The quickness to prepare a loaf is great with the artisan recipe, but Isi's are my favourite!
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: icor611 on January 29, 2013, 01:06:51 am
It's awesome, isn't it!  And so easy. 

Loved your pics, Jo:  sensational!

Here's my daily bread (since devoured with our lunch):
(http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii131/larabelles_photos/Dailybread.jpg)


Where is the recipe? Thx, Im new here and new to forums as well. My THMX should be on it's way tonight. Trying to show my wife how easy it is to use. Brian
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Aussie Brenda on January 29, 2013, 01:24:05 am
Hi Brian you will nearly always find the recipe on the first page at the top, I had a quick look and there is a link to the recipe for this, didn't check to see if it still works,  our Bread expert is Achookwoman, she has posted some great recipes and hints for baking bread.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: cookie1 on January 29, 2013, 05:48:43 am
Isi's bread rolls, ( link above) and Chookie's no fuss rolls make great breads Brian. Happy thermomixing.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: snappy on January 29, 2013, 11:11:43 am
Brian, I would definitely start with chookies no fuss bread if you wanted to show off the thermomix.  I do like this artisan bread but you need to leave the dough in the fridge for at least three days before baking for it to develop that sourdough taste.
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: Cornish Cream on January 29, 2013, 01:08:48 pm
Brian Chookie's No Fuss Bread recipe is here (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=4253.0)  :)
Title: Re: Artisan no-knead bread in 5 mins
Post by: cookie1 on January 30, 2013, 06:10:26 am
Thanks CC.