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Title: Butter
Post by: sarsryan on December 08, 2010, 09:00:32 am
Made butter today!  It was great!  So easy!!  I put EVOO in at the end which made it very spreadable, although (funnily enough!) it tasted of the oil.  Could you use another type of oil which would not be so strong in flavour, but still make it spreadable?



























































Title: Re: Butter
Post by: opi2kenopi on December 08, 2010, 09:19:55 am
Yay  ;D  Butter was one of the first things I made and I love it.  I don't add anything to mine because I find that after a couple of minutes out of the fridge it's pretty much spreadable anyway.  I'm sure you could probably use rice bran oil or maybe grapeseed oil?  I've heard that doesn't have much of taste (good in mayo too apparently).

On another note, I was searching around the internet last night looking for a 'container' to store my butter in.  I have come across a thing called a French Butter Crock.  I'd never heard of them, but it's a ceramic container that you can store some butter in on your benchtop or table (doesn't need to be in the fridge and is therefore always spreadable).  It consists of a base container which you put some cool water in, and then the butter is stored in the lid.  The water creates a seal to prevent spoilage.  Hard to explain - here's a pic:
(http://www.ltremain.com/images/products/bb39f2cabdd468ebf5a7b5ed714c9be7.jpg)

Le Creuset make one as does Butter Bell.  I've seen them on Amazon and also there are some more arty ones on the etsy web site.  I'm thinking I might need one for Christmas  ;)
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Chelsea (Thermie Groupie) on December 08, 2010, 10:25:15 am
Yes we use grapeseed oil and it doesn't alter the taste.  :)
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: faffa_70 on December 08, 2010, 11:21:54 am
Early next year I will be able to get butter bells for those that are interested  :) They are brilliant. You only change the water every 3 days and butter will keep for 30 days in a butter bell.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: sarsryan on December 08, 2010, 11:42:28 am
Thank you for your input.  Yes a butter bell does seem to be the way to go!
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: opi2kenopi on December 08, 2010, 11:43:10 am
Count me in!  I love the idea and it will help convince DH about eating butter instead of marg.  He is one that doesn't like to have solid butter straight from the fridge.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Very Happy Jan on December 08, 2010, 12:02:51 pm
Early next year I will be able to get butter bells for those that are interested  :) They are brilliant. You only change the water every 3 days and butter will keep for 30 days in a butter bell.

Sounds interesting Faffa. I'm intrigued
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: judydawn on December 08, 2010, 12:09:18 pm
Mmm, so am I.  Is this a new venture you are entering into Kathryn?  Also, on a very hot day of say 43oC, what is to stop that butter melting & falling out into the water below ???
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: faffa_70 on December 08, 2010, 12:18:55 pm
No it isn't my venture.

The bell remains cool JD as the air around it helps to insulate it. They are really quite intriguing how they work.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Meagan on December 08, 2010, 12:22:13 pm
Tell me more Faffa  ;D I would love to hear about them when they are available. How much do you think they will be and what colour/s? Can you tell I am keen  :-)) ;D ;)
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: faffa_70 on December 08, 2010, 12:28:31 pm
Not 100% sure on all the details as yet, I was just informed that they will be available. They will be around the $40.00 mark and I think they will come in a range of colours (from memory - white, red, blue and green. Not entirely sure on that) and it will probably be late Feb I think.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Meagan on December 08, 2010, 12:30:47 pm
Cool  ;D How much do they hold at a time? Also where will they come from/be made. Are you going to sell them?
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: cookie1 on December 09, 2010, 12:40:46 am
A little bit of interest being shown here. 8) 8)
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: andiesenji on December 09, 2010, 12:54:41 am
You can use any "neutral" oil.  Grapeseed oil is excellent as is canola oil

You can also use ghee if you have a local source or can take the time to make your own.  It is interesting that adding ghee to freshly churned butter extends the keeping qualities of the butter as well as making it more spreadable, and yet you have a pure butter product. 

I have used macadamia nut oil when I plan on preparing composed butters with herbs and spices.  As macadamia has an inherent buttery flavor to begin with, it is especially useful for this use.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: meganjane on December 09, 2010, 01:25:53 am
February may not be the best time to use a Butter Bell in Australia! I've read reviews on it and most say that it's not capable of holding the butter when the temperature is over 75-80 degrees F.

But, I still want one! They sound so sensible. I adore butter, but use Dairy Soft because of the trouble keeping butter soft. I don't make butter as I can never get enough cream.

I bought a new fridge recently and they don't make them with butter conditioners anymore! Remember there used to be a compartment that had a warming element, just for butter?
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Thermo Jo (aka Jodi) on January 09, 2011, 06:39:18 pm
My best friend bought me a Butter Bell for Christmas! I've just got to make some butter to put in it now.  :D

I use Rice Bran Oil in my butter as it doesn't effect the taste of the butter, has no odour and it's 100% cholesterol free!
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Nik2WIN on January 09, 2011, 09:02:05 pm
I had some cream on its sell by date the other day - rather than letting it spoil I decided to make some butter with it

WOW, what a taste.  I thought butter was butter, but homemade is just gorgeous!

Nik
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: faffa_70 on January 09, 2011, 11:05:02 pm
Jodi, with a butter bell you won't need to add the oil. I would defiantly try without it first so it doesn't just fall out of the bell!!
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: achookwoman on January 10, 2011, 06:03:33 am
I also use rice bran oil in my butter, and then freeze it in small containers.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Thermo Jo (aka Jodi) on January 11, 2011, 11:03:01 pm
Oh thanks for the tip Kathryn! I'm going to make some this morning so it's a good job you told me.

Could have been rather messy!  :D
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: faffa_70 on January 11, 2011, 11:34:45 pm
Especially with today being 37o  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Yvette on January 12, 2011, 05:10:18 am
Is the butter that everyone is  making the one in the EDC?
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Cuilidh on January 12, 2011, 05:18:06 am
I am sure I have seen the answer to this query somewhere recently, but cannot find it now.  If you want to add some oil to the butter, what quantity  or ratio of oil to cream do you use?  If it makes any difference to the answer, I would be using grapeseed oil.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: judydawn on January 12, 2011, 05:48:25 am
The EDC recipe would be the one Yvette - I rinse it 3 times following hints on the forum so make sure you have plenty of cold water in the fridge as it certainly doesn't work with tap water  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Merlin on January 12, 2011, 08:36:53 am
Rice bran oil is definitely the go if you don't want the taste of EVOO, although I rarely use oil in the butter and when I do, I actually prefer the taste of the olive oil to come through, but not too strongly though.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: achookwoman on January 12, 2011, 09:31:04 am
Cuilllidh,  these tips came from others,  sorry can't remember who, but thanks they really work.  I use 1200mls of thickened cream.  ($2.25 for 600mls here.)  2 litres of chilled water,100 mls of Rice Bran oil,  and 2 teaspoons of salt.
Follow the instructions in the EDC book, page 12.
The oil is added after you have wash the remaining buttermilk out.




600 mils makes 280g of butter,  the buttermilk is a bonus. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: andiesenji on January 12, 2011, 05:38:35 pm
If no one has yet mentioned it, you can also add grapeseed oil which has a completely neutral flavor.

I add it to butter that is going to be used for cooking because it raises the temperature at which butter burns. 
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Cuilidh on January 12, 2011, 07:58:26 pm
Thanks, for those measurements and the tip on when to add the oil (knowing me, I would have added it during the initial mixing time!).  I'll give it a try with my next batch of butter.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Yvette on January 12, 2011, 09:54:50 pm
Thanks Judydawn will try and make the butter soon, we have water and ice connected to the fridge so it wont be a problem.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: KarenH on January 13, 2011, 03:40:03 am
This may be another silly question - but if you use cream that is at its "use by" date to make butter - how much longer will the butter last before it goes off? 

I have been using close-to-date cream to make ice-cream, but haven't been game to use it to make butter.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Merlin on January 13, 2011, 04:01:52 am
You can use cream at any point to make butter. It doesn't have to be near it's use-by date. It has to do with the amount of whipping, not the freshness of the cream.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: KarenH on January 13, 2011, 04:03:28 am
I was more worried that if the cream used to make butter was close to the use-by date, then the butter might go rancid really quickly
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: Lilli33 on January 25, 2012, 12:12:23 pm
So I'm interested in a butter bell locally in aus. ( well under the price I can get it for overseas. ) I saw the discussion here but haven't seen a link as to where I could get one. Thanks a million.
Title: Re: Butter
Post by: andiesenji on January 25, 2012, 07:36:34 pm
I'm not too keen about butter bells - they hold barely 4 ounces of butter - I have some I use when I have several guests - one bell for every two guests to save people waiting.  Otherwise I rarely use them.

I have a couple of butter crocks - one similar to this one that is available in Australia:  Ecology Butter Dish (http://www.kitchenwaredirect.com.au/Ecology-Butter-Dish)

It has a rubber or silicone seal that keeps the contents from picking up flavors from other things.  Some people complain that the seal is not tight but others seem to think it's okay.

Title: Re: Butter
Post by: faffa_70 on January 25, 2012, 10:18:31 pm
So I'm interested in a butter bell locally in aus. ( well under the price I can get it for overseas. ) I saw the discussion here but haven't seen a link as to where I could get one. Thanks a million.

I can PM you the email address if you like Lilli33  ;)