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Thermomix Recipes for TM5 and TM31 => Non Food Recipes => Topic started by: CarolineW on May 16, 2009, 01:19:56 am
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Don't know how to move a post, but this is one from a link I was given (I think by Brazen), which I then adapted somewhat. Here's the link to my posting:
http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=686.msg3442#msg3442 (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=686.msg3442#msg3442)
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Quoting Kareen (brazen)
i've been wanting to make hand soap in mine (and i have a friend who made soap in hers)
here is the recipe i was going to use I thought I should share this, as it is so easy to do, and so cheap compared to buying 1L refills from the supermarket even (they are about $4?)
http://tipnut.com/homemade-liquid-soap/
Quoting Caroline W
Don't know if you've made this yet, Brazen? I just made it a few minutes ago. Overall, I like it, but had a few problems, and some ideas for how I'll try it next time:
I would mill rather than grate the soap - it would have made the process much easier later on.
I ended up adding double the water, as it really was TOO thick. It wouldn't have come out of the liquid soap dispenser. Possibly the type of soap I was using???
I added almond oil as well as the glycerine and honey. I'll add about double the oil, and probably the glycerine too, next time. The resulting soap has a lovely, luxuriant texture, and is nice to wash the hands with, but my hands still feel slightly dry afterward. I'm hoping more oil would stop that.
Initially I was afraid to go above speed 3, in case I made the soap go all foamy. But later found that speed 8 was the best, as it emulsified everything into a glorious texture.
All in all, I'm very pleased with it, but feel with a bit of experimentation it could be much better.
I used a standard sized bar of soap (100g) and upped the other ingredients accordingly (before increasing the water further). It filled 2 soap dispensers at the end.
To get the soap into the dispensers, as it was so thick and creamy, I used one of those cookie things - don't know what they're called. You put the thin dough into the dispensing tube and then pop in the shape that you want them to be at the other end, and then press out the cookies. An icing bag or plastic bag with the corner cut off would have worked too. Anything which allows you to direct the (very viscous) liquid into a small hole, and apply a bit of pressure to get it to go through the hole. I can confirm that a funnel does NOT work ;D
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Caroline can I ask how much almond oil you added to your soap and if you have made it again (is it better? did you do anything different again?) Wanting to give this a try and I suffer from dry hands as well
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Sorry Kathryn - can't quite remember. I think equal amounts with the glycerin. However, it turned out to be perfect. It turned out that my hands only felt dry because I'd washed my hands so many times testing out the soap!!! It was actually glorious to use once my skin had settled down to their usual dryness, rather than 'just washed my hands about 10 times in quick succession' dryness. Even my husband commented on it.
I'm afraid that I didn't note the measurements (doubt I even knew them at the time, to be honest). I just poured things in until it looked like it might be right, and then tested how it felt to use it. I haven't had time to make it again as yet, because life has been so hectic recently (it's all I can do to get a meal on the table at present!). I definitely will make it again when life settles down, though. It isn't just cheaper than the store bought stuff - it's better quality too.
Sorry I couldn't be more help. My recommendation would be to go for it anyway, and just 'test it and see' for the measurements.
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Thanks Caroline, I think I will just go for it! Will go for the equal amounts to start. Has to be better than the store stuff for sure. I at least know what is in it and that is appealing. I will report back and let you all know how I go. Think the TMX will have a cleaning day tomorrow as I need more Dishwasher Detergent and Washing Machine Goo ;D
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;D It'll be one very clean bean!!! Let me know how you get on.
I'm looking forward to the day when I get to make the dishwasher and washing machine goo. Guess I'll probably end up doing all 3 on the same day, too :D
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I ended up with a white foam that filled the jug, and when it cooled it solidified to almost the texture of a foam mattress! I re-emulsified with water but I'm still not convinced. I didn't have any honey, so just omitted it. Have I made it wrong? Or is this texture/colour correct? I'm used to liquid soap/handwash being a thick liquid/almost a gel, rather than a foam.
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Gosh, it's so long that I'm trying to remember .... I think it might have looked like foam, but when we came to use it it was actually like a creamy lux soap lather creamy thing (I think creamy is the key word I'm trying to go for here :D )
But it definitely didn't solidify, and definitely wasn't like a foam mattress! Maybe you didn't have enough liquid, as the honey would have contributed to that? Also, how much water did you add? I remember that the initial amount I added was no where near enough.
Also, did you go straight to speed 8? I'm wondering if my initial caution in using speed 3 is what allowed me to finish off at speed 8, and if perhaps it doesn't work if it's speed 8 the whole time? Could be. Did you use oil as well as glycerine? Was it just the honey you missed out?
These are the things I can think of which might be it. It would be good to hear your feedback on it, to help us to get a clearer idea on how to tweak the instructions. It's very much at its experimental stage, at present.
I really must get around to trying this again, as it was fantastic stuff. And then I could (try) to record what I do more accurately! :-[ Well, I did admit I was a fly by the seat of my pants person in the poll ;D
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sorry i still haven't got aroud to making it! (though i do now have the ingredients at least lol)
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Having read a book on home soap making, I have renewed confidence, but I'll wait for my current (bought) batches of hand wash to run out first ;)
I suppose I should have followed the recipe to the letter first time. But you live and learn!
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Ok I had a go with this today using Caroline's tips and the original recipe from here http://tipnut.com/homemade-liquid-soap/
80g bar of soap milled I gradually went up to 8 and did a toal of 40 sec
add 220 boiling water (1cup)
speed 5 for 1min
Take care not to leave the TMX bowl open at this stage as someone may come along and stick their finger in for a taste mistaking it for meringue mix LOL (no this didn't happen just popped into my head at the time)
add 100g tap water speed 6 for 30 sec
add 1tbsp honey,2tsp glycerol,2tsp almond oil
speed 4 10 seconds
Leave to cool for 15 mins
At this point it formed a bit of a skin and when I mixed it with the spatula was a bit lumpy
It was about at the 1.25lt mark.
Then I added 300g tasp water and wizzed on speed 6 for 25 seconds
The recipe says to then put it in the containers and wait for an hour until putting on the lids......
The result was still a little thick but I managed to decant into the soap dispensers with some creative spatula use LOL. It filled three almost empty ones, one 250ml the other two are ceramic and probably take 300 and 450 and I have a container that would fill the largest one again I think. I will let you know how it goes when it has settled down. But it smells lovely and was cheap as chips to make when you work it out. I am hoping this will be a regualr in our house now! ;D
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Will be interested to hear how you go Meagan, I just realised that I hadn't come back after making it. I found it really drying on my hands and haven't made another batch. My hands are really dry anyway and I do spend alot of time washing them for one reason or another :-))
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Thanks Meagan - see how it goes.
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Ok so it is not as frothy as a store bought soap and it is quite thick so could probably do with a little more water. I like the smell ;D Will report back again after a week or so of using it ;)
Oh yeah forgot to mention it is a bit stringy when it comes out of the dispenser....LOL
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Will look forward to hearing how it goes Meagan. DH uses gallons of it as he gets filthy working on his old car.
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This sounds great. With all the tips I think this is a job for 'Thermoman'....as we call Spanner. I got a lot of laughs imagining myself making it.
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I think it need more water added - it is quite thick in the container. Not sure what I would do next time but will preservere as I like the idea of making it myself and I am getting used to the stringy consistancy ;)
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Eww! I don't like liquid soap made from proper soap. It's similar in consistency to snot! You'll also find that it may go bad as you've added tap water.
Liquid soap is best made as a complete product, that is a hot process method using oils and potassium hydroxide. It's a very involved process though, so I stick with my detergent based liquid soap. I use decyl glucoside, cocobetaine, various emollients and preservative. I haven't got it on the market as there are so many out there now, it's not worth trying to compete.
If you're looking for a good hand soap, look for ones that don't contain Sodium (or Ammonium) Lauryl (or Laureth) Sulphate. Any of the sulphate based detergents are extremely harsh. Read more about it on my blog: SLS (http://skinflints.blogspot.com/search/label/Sodium%20Lauryl%20Sulphate).
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I have never made soap in my TM, do you get any soapy after taste/residue in the next thing you make in the TM bowl?
Thanks in advance :)
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I've only made the laundry powder in mine and there is no smell or anything.
I don't put the borax in the bowl, I stir it through later as it is a poison.
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If you mean making soap from scratch, I wouldn't recommend it as it's a highly caustic substance and could damage the rubber seal. Since it's Stainless Steel, there won't be any residue if you clean it properly.
Cold Process soap doesn't bubble until it's fully saponified, anything up to 48 hours after it's made, so there won't be soapy bubbles.
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I'm asking on behalf of a customer, it's the laundry powder. So do everything in the TM bowl and put the borax in afterwards (not whilst in the jug) and there should be no 'after taste'?
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That's right KarenO.
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Thanks for that :)
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Hi I make my own soap to sell in my shop and would like to comment on your liquid soap making. For best results you should start with a handcrafted soap, any soap bought from the shop has had the glycerin removed which is one of the reasons it dries you skin out. Coconut oil makes bubbles so consider adding a little if you want more bubble. Goat's milk is very nourishing to the skin, it has the closest pH to our own skin and is the recommended soap to use for young children. Consider adding a quarter teaspoon of dried goat's milk powder to your mix (1/2 tsp per litre of liquid) is enough. Also I saw you said to use tap water, I personally would use filtered or twice boiled or rain water and with rain water it would be better to filter it anyway especially if you live in a city. When you make liquid soap you would normally use potassium hydroxide to get the chemical reaction to make soap and it is a 5 day process where it changes through different forms one of them is a solid state. I have made natural soap in my TM but I have decided not to try the liquid soap process as it is too time consuming. I hope this helps you though.
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Gosh there are lot's of helpful tips there. Thank you! :)
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Thanks again karenaltmann32. I don't think I'll be making any soap and had no idea that there was dried goat milk powder ! Naive ?
MrsT likes bubble in the bath so may do something with coconut oil?
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Yes, Thermomixer, you can get powdered goat's milk, powdered coconut milk and powdered buttermilk. I use powdered buttermilk in my Oatmeal, Milk & Honey Soap. (http://skinflint.com.au/Handmade-Soap-pr-126.html)
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Bumping - and thanks to Frozzie for pointing me in the direction of this thread!! Love it! I think some of these would make lovely gifts . .
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Just be sure to use distilled water and don't use store bought soap.
I'm planning on trying this with all the soap shavings that I have. I plane my soap before it's labelled, so have heaps and heaps of shavings!
I'll report back when I have a try.