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Title: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 22, 2014, 08:08:27 pm


From my DDIL RADHA



It's Nigella Lawsons recipe from her book domestic goddess. Here is the recipe:

225 g plain flour
1 Tbs baking powder
Pinch salt
1 tsp sugar
3 Tbs yoghurt
30 g butter melted and cooled
300 ml milk
Butter for frying

Whizz it all in TMX and away you go, actually it is good to let rest for 20 mins.
Note from Nigella : " when you cook pancakes, all you need to remember is that when the upper side is blistering and bubbling its time to cook the second side, and this needs only about 1 minute.
🚩I like to add vanilla if they are sweet ones.

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Bootobethin on March 22, 2014, 09:35:08 pm
These have butter, milk and yogurt so aren't vegan.
Does Nigella suggest how to make them vegan?
Looks like a nice recipe anyway.
Thanks Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 23, 2014, 04:44:00 am
Apparently there are vegans and vegans. My DS  and family are Hari Krishnas live in India and follow the Hindu vegan way so I have no idea what a true 'vegan ' is . Hindus do eat milk products. I do know that. Milk is a product of a cow but not part of a cow so is acceptable to millions of Indian vegans.

Someone please explain . Ask Nigella I say. I have not much interest really. I only posted this recipe because. I was asked. There are many more qualified  to answer questions about veganism.

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: LauraTO on March 23, 2014, 06:23:04 am
Vegans don't eat any animal products at all, even honey.  Someone who eats no meat but still eats milk products would be called a vegetarian. That's my understanding at least!
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Nikkit on March 23, 2014, 07:03:52 am
In Saturdays west there's an article on The Two Fat Ladies, mainly Clarissa Dickson Wright, which is hilarious. Her parents didn't know what to call her so she got a name as long as your arm, they got shickered on the way to church to have her christened and couldn't pick one name, so ended up with 11!!

Anyway she said that suet and booze was the way to go and "manky little vegetarians" were not her style.

Made me laugh!

(she might have the answer to your vego/vegan question Gert, although it will not be PC - it'd be funny!!)  ;D
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 23, 2014, 09:39:48 am
Vegans don't eat any animal products at all, even honey.  Someone who eats no meat but still eats milk products would be called a vegetarian. That's my understanding at least!

Vegans don't eat eggs, or fish either but  I know vegetarians that eat those things . I never heard of the honey thing. A bee isn't an animal. I guess vegans would not eat any cheese products  either then. Though paneer is a big part of my son's life and my DIL makes cheese.they say they are vegans but perhaps not?

So just what does a vegan eat?  It is all very confusing this labelling people by what they eat.

Gert

Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 23, 2014, 09:52:54 am
In Saturdays west there's an article on The Two Fat Ladies, mainly Clarissa Dickson Wright, which is hilarious. Her parents didn't know what to call her so she got a name as long as your arm, they got shickered on the way to church to have her christened and couldn't pick one name, so ended up with 11!!

Anyway she said that suet and booze was the way to go and "manky little vegetarians" were not her style.

Made me laugh!

(she might have the answer to your vego/vegan question Gert, although it will not be PC - it'd be funny!!)  ;D

I love those gals. I have met them both and had quite a long correspondence with   Jennifer  Paterson some years ago. She used to have a column in the Spectator Magazing and once had a recipe for  sweetbreads. It took 3 days to make and I was sure she had left one element out of the  recipe. We had a hilarious exchange. When I finally finished the recipe it tasted like,  well let us just say , it was pretty awful. When I told her the same but not in those words I could hear her laughing all the way from England . I said it was a wanker  recipe and she replied that it was indeed  and I got the impression that  it was some inside joke in the mag and she was delighted  with my response saying chefs all over England in fancy restaurants were still trying to perfect it. I was the only one she said who had noticed the deliberate mistake.

When she came to Sydney we met up. She stunk  of cigarette smoke so our conversation was brief.

Very funny, very smart real women. They were full of life.

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: judydawn on March 23, 2014, 10:37:58 am
A nice experience for you though Gert.
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: cookie1 on March 23, 2014, 12:59:16 pm
Nikkit I loved the article on CDW in the paper. She had an interesting life. She certainly packed a lot into it, both good and bad. I was surprised to read that she was only 61 though.
 I loved their attitude to life. Throw in all the fat and cream etc. great ladies and not goodie goodies.
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: LauraTO on March 23, 2014, 05:44:02 pm
Vegans don't eat eggs, or fish either but  I know vegetarians that eat those things . I never heard of the honey thing. A bee isn't an animal. I guess vegans would not eat any cheese products  either then. Though paneer is a big part of my son's life and my DIL makes cheese.they say they are vegans but perhaps not?

So just what does a vegan eat?  It is all very confusing this labelling people by what they eat.

Gert
I know, it is confusing! It sounds like your son and DIL are vegetarians not vegans if they eat dairy products. Vegans eat just plants. Vegetables fruits grains legumes seeds nuts etc. No meat dairy eggs fish or no, not even honey (if they are really strict) since bees aren't plants lol.

Of course it's further complicated because some vegetarians do and some don't eat milk or eggs or fish, and there are special names for those people too, but that just makes thugs even more confusing.

Back to the original topic, these pancakes would be vegetarian, not vegan. Although it would actually be kind of interesting making non-vegetarian pancakes. Bacon bits? Fried in lard? :)
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Cuilidh on March 23, 2014, 07:43:12 pm
An interesting conversation.  I have been vegetarian for 30+ years ... officially I am an "Ovo-lacto" vegetarian because I also eat eggs and dairy products.  There are some people who eat white meat but still say they are vegetarian because they don't eat red meat - in my opinion they just want to be 'trendy' by labeling themselves vegetarian, similarly those who also eat fish.  Like everything in life, you can make something as confusing or easy as you like!

I actually cook 100% vegan food as DH is lactose intolerant (but he does eat meat and fish ... he calls himself a 'vegetarian by marriage').  I think we must be quite challenging for people to invite around because of what we do and do not eat, but there is a huge range of fabulous food out there and I am picking up more and more ideas and reicpes all the time. 
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 24, 2014, 12:00:11 am
Oh boy LauraO pancakes with bacon and lard . Talking my tune!!

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 24, 2014, 12:05:59 am
Marina you can come to my house any day. I can figure it out.

I think we gotta stop labelling people by what they eat. I don't give a rat's aspidistra what anyone eats so long as they are good company and bring along bottle of wine!

We get too hung up of food and foodies and we all end up in the same patch in the end.

Life is short. Enjoy it while ya can.it is all about the journey.

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: cookie1 on March 24, 2014, 06:40:40 am
Must agree Gert. The company is the thing. I have a friend who is vegetarian, doesn't eat fats, sugar, garlic etc etc. we manage to feed him. His wife says if you hide the garlic and a few other dislikes he won't know. In fact he has introduced us to some lovely foods.
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: judydawn on March 24, 2014, 06:52:10 am
Not sure how he can be fooled into not knowing he is not eating garlic Cookie, has he no taste of smell or taste buds ???
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 24, 2014, 07:04:10 am
Interesting Judy. I know garlic haters who have not a clue what it really tastes like when in cooking. They may not like the smell but not know when it is in a recipe.  I pay no attention to garlic and anchovie haters in my cooking. If you eat anchovies on their own they may taste fishy but if you have anchovies in a sauce you wouldn't even  know so long as they were cooked into it.  Same with a reasonable amount of garlic especially if you use confit garlic.

Never had a guest complain about either. And I confess I may have pre-empted any possible complaints by saying I know you do not like garlic/anchovies and let them draw the obvious conclusion. LOL!

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: cookie1 on March 24, 2014, 12:34:49 pm
I have no idea Judy. I use Tenina's Garlic Paste. I guess if it isn't over powering at all he isn't aware of it.
Gert I always pop a couple of anchovies into my lasagne and spaghetti bog. I think it works a bit like the Umami.
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Bedlam on March 24, 2014, 02:37:39 pm
An interesting conversation.  I have been vegetarian for 30+ years ... officially I am an "Ovo-lacto" vegetarian because I also eat eggs and dairy products.  There are some people who eat white meat but still say they are vegetarian because they don't eat red meat - in my opinion they just want to be 'trendy' by labeling themselves vegetarian, similarly those who also eat fish.  Like everything in life, you can make something as confusing or easy as you like!

I actually cook 100% vegan food as DH is lactose intolerant (but he does eat meat and fish ... he calls himself a 'vegetarian by marriage').  I think we must be quite challenging for people to invite around because of what we do and do not eat, but there is a huge range of fabulous food out there and I am picking up more and more ideas and reicpes all the time. 


 Marina,
My DD describes her  vegertarian ways by saying she doesnt eat anything with a face. She isvlike you and eats eggs and dairy!
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Nikkit on March 25, 2014, 01:12:46 am
Gert, loved your story about Jennifer and Clarissa, can imagine they would have both been a riot to know!

I am a tad envious!

I get the feeling at the moment it is "cool" or "trendy" if you have an alternate way of eating. I find it a pain in Gert's rats aspidistra! 

I was at a café the other day, a lady ordered a toasted Panini, when it came out she said "oh, I can't eat that... I am gluten free, ooops, I forgot to tell you that, sorry" and laughed.  :o
Now if she was really GF, then she would have asked before she ordered. I think she was trying to look good in front of her trendy friends. She just looked like a bloody idiot to me.
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 25, 2014, 01:49:36 am
Gert, loved your story about Jennifer and Clarissa, can imagine they would have both been a riot to know!

I am a tad envious!

I get the feeling at the moment it is "cool" or "trendy" if you have an alternate way of eating. I find it a pain in Gert's rats aspidistra!  

I was at a café the other day, a lady ordered a toasted Panini, when it came out she said "oh, I can't eat that... I am gluten free, ooops, I forgot to tell you that, sorry" and laughed.  :o
Now if she was really GF, then she would have asked before she ordered. I think she was trying to look good in front of her trendy friends. She just looked like a bloody idiot to me.

SOAPBOX WARNING!

I hope they made her pay for it. That is such a food waste . If I were the owner I would have not only made her pay but wrap the thing up and tell her to take it to a homeless person so it is not wasted.  Why can' these people just go about their ordering in a quiet way. I don't have to shout out that  I eat gluten. meat  vegetables, fat and another thing before I order.  For all our sake get a grip.  There are so many choices on menus  and usually mix and match. If you cannot choose a restaurant that suits then stay home and don't whine about it.  If I go to a vegetarian place I don't complain because I can't get a burger! If I were a strict vegetarian I am sure I could order a meal to suit from any menu offered with a minimum of fuss. If I were gluten free I would not order a Sanger would I?

We have one coffee group member that always comes to every meet up and always complains that she can't eat anything. She never even has a glass of water because she does not know where it came from. She came to the Christmas lunch where there were over 40 choices on the menu but she could not eat anything on it so left. I asked her, why, if she enjoyed the company ,she did not just bring something  from home and her reply was why should she. Ya can't win with some.


I just don't get what all the fussiness is about. Maybe  being up here in the deep north I am out of the trendy loop. My main complaint is that places do not use fresh local food but it won't kill me to eat crap once in a while so I can enjoy good company. God knows I have had to drink enough bad wine to enjoy good company.

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 25, 2014, 01:52:11 am

 Marina,
My DD describes her  vegertarian ways by saying she doesnt eat anything with a face. She isvlike you and eats eggs and dairy!

Now that makes sense to me. Smart girl.

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: judydawn on March 25, 2014, 01:52:56 am
Thank goodness the wine in Adelaide was good Gert  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 25, 2014, 01:55:24 am
Thank goodness the wine in Adelaide was good Gert  :D :D :D :D

And the company.

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Nikkit on March 25, 2014, 02:25:06 am
Loved your soap box warning Gert - and I agree with you whole heartedly!

Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: cookie1 on March 25, 2014, 02:51:11 am
Loved your soap box warning Gert - and I agree with you whole heartedly!



Me too. I would have seen that the lady who wouldn't eat the Panini looked like wearing it.
DD went to a focus group at a large suburban shopping centre the other evening. She said there were 2-3 women who were pains in the neck. They wouldn't be seen dead in Priceline, or the Reject shop etc. DD had one of her LV handbags with her and said she is often in these 2 shops plus others that are similar.
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Nikkit on March 25, 2014, 03:23:06 am
Some people are just a bit too precious for their own good.

We're all the same really, we get out of the bed in the morning and we all go to the toilet.  :-))
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Bedlam on March 25, 2014, 05:57:23 am
Agree wholeheartedly nikkit and Gert.  Raw and gluton free seem to be the trend at present. People with true dietary issues quietly get on with it.
Someone told me that a long time ago, nikkit, we all get up in the morning and ablute. Worth remembering when you come across interesting characters that think they are so much better than the rest of us.
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 25, 2014, 06:23:15 am
From pancakes to ablutions. This forum has it all.  ;D ;D

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Nikkit on March 25, 2014, 07:03:01 am
We have varied conversations in this melting pot forum!

Love it  ;D
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: cookie1 on March 25, 2014, 11:14:28 am
We'll get this world sorted out eventually.   :D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: LauraTO on March 25, 2014, 12:40:41 pm
A recipe for someone with a specialized diet, in a section for people with specialized diets, does seem like a funny place to mock people with specialized diets! Good thing most of us have a good sense of humor around here. Off to do my ablutions lol!
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: cookie1 on March 26, 2014, 07:31:53 am
We're a crazy lot LauraO. Imagine if you were able to meet us.  ??? ??? ??? So many people on the forum have met each other I am sure it is all taken in fun.
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 26, 2014, 07:46:25 am
LOL! LauraTO . Don't worry once in a while someone gives us a "serve". [ slap around the head ]  and pulls us into line.

Those who don' t have a sense of humour or ridiculousness soon depart. Life is too short to be serious all the time. You will find when someone has a real dietary problem, and many of us do, we rally and provide genuine heart felt help. It is just the "wankers" we have fun with.

Actually they don't hang around long either  and search out those blogs and sites where they fit right in trying to one up each other.

Everyone here is pretty fairdinkum!

Gert
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: Bedlam on March 26, 2014, 08:09:10 am
Thanks Gert, i did consider myself told.  I can get a bit carried away LauraTO
Title: Re: Pancakes vegan
Post by: gertbysea on March 26, 2014, 09:20:00 am
Thanks Gert, i did consider myself told.  I can get a bit carried away LauraTO

It would not be the first time we have been told! I think Hally whacked me once or twice and Judy more than that!

Gert