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Welcoming Center, Management and General Chat => Chit Chat => Topic started by: Deeau on November 20, 2014, 02:36:28 am
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Hi, I am in need of some advice from the experts!
My Panasonic Microwave convection oven has just died and I thought I would do some research on getting a new one. I am in the country so a quick visit to my local appliance store came up with " Oh they are not very popular anymore " needless to say they have none in stock so I have to research online.
Situation:Country style kitchen with a Rayburn wood oven in the winter ( heats out hot water too ) a gas upright ( old but works ) a TM for almost 5 years that gets used numerous times everyday inc Varoma use and the Microwave convection. The gas oven or cooktop almost never gets used the oven is a pig so the Mico/conv that came with me to this house 13 years and has always been used as the main oven. Of course I also have an airfryer, electric pressure cooker, webber Q BBQ etc etc. ( I read the shopping thread too much ) But I do use them all. I cook everything from scratch inc. lots and lots of baking, cooking cakes etc to feed the family.
OK to replace the dead Microwave convection do I buy another one the same ? Or do I go for the newer Microwave/convection/steam ovens or do I try and get a simple combo/convection/steam oven ( if they are available in a benchtop model.)
I am not sure how often I would use the steam cooking for veg or meat but I do think I would like to try adding steam to some of my baking ( ie crusty bread etc. ) I hardly use my microwave/convection for microwaving stuff mainly for oven, I always steam my veg in the Varoma rather than microwave them ....is that enough info to get opinions from the experts on here, has anyone had experience with baking and steam is it that beneficial or should I just replace exactly what I have .... I am almost convinced I could live without the microwave part if I had the steam function. But desperately need a reliable oven! PS the power supply to our house ( rural ) does not allow me to put in a full electric wall oven so its never really been an option to replace the gas ( and the gas is handy in power outages.
Thanks Deeau
PS the choice is way more lifestyle driven than price driven.
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Deeau, there are many many Microwave ovens available, they are also comparatively cheap. You must choose what suits you. My DIL has a very expensive steam oven which she loves, but this is built in. Since she has had it she doesn't use the Varoma any more. Like you we are in the country and it is important to have both gas and electricity. Good luck with your choice.
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I have always had microwave/convection ovens. The first one I had was a large Sharp and lasted 15 years before I replaced it with a large Panasonic which lasted 5 years. I have always used the convection and hardly ever used the microwave part. Currently I have a Panasonic Inverter model which is not as large as the ones before and does not have a turn table but I feel I can fit more in it because of that. I don't find I have to stir/turn the food as it cooks quite evenly and I would say I use it for most things to save using the larger electric oven. I seldom use the microwave part but the convection is used almost on a daily basis and if it died I would replace it with another convection oven i.e. if I can get one to fit the space it has to go. I don't know anything about steam ovens so can't comment on those. Hope you find something that suits you.
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I'm afraid I'm no help either. We bought our first microwave ( Panasonic) in 1980. When that died we bought a Sharp and it is still a happy chappy. Both were microwave only.
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I have a steam MW. I used it once for steaming & hated it. It left the inside of the MW all wet with water droplets, so it had to be all wiped out. Varoma is much easier :)
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Emme, Can you cook muffins (12 hole tin) in your Panasonic Inverter? I usually just use my oven for a roast chicken and muffins.
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I just bought a microwave convection oven last week. :)
love it :)
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Have you considered a Breville Smart Oven? It does not have a steam function but it is a remarkable little oven. A 1/4 size sheet pan fits into it which a lot of the steam/combo ones can't accommodate. I use mine all the time and have used the bigger wall oven only a handful of times this year. I would not be without it.
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Emme, Can you cook muffins (12 hole tin) in your Panasonic Inverter? I usually just use my oven for a roast chicken and muffins.
I am including 2 photos of the inside of my oven for you Kayc and it will also give Deeau an idea of the size of the convection/microwave I have. One with my old muffin tray (mums) on the lower rack. The oven comes with 2 racks high & low. If you have a tray or something you use a lot make a paper template and take it with you , that way it will give you an idea whether it will fit in your new oven. That is what I do.
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I bought a convection microwave from Aldi a few weeks ago and must admit I haven't even given the convection a go because I'm a bit scared - not sure why.
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Thanks for all the reply's, at this stage I have rung a repairer and he thinks that it may only be $50 or so to fix, so I will try that option first. If not I will do more research, as usual they never seem to have all the features rolled into the one machine, I have been looking at the one that Emme has and that is my first choice but I am not sure that I like the drop down door option. I can see the benefit it some ways but mine will be mounted a little higher than bench height and I am concerned about lifting heavy casseroles etc over a hot door. So I am more than happy to try and get it fixed first so hopefully for the short term I will not have to try and make a decision.
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Deeau, you maybe able to get yours repaired then, which is good.
Mine does not have the drop down door option so they must have updated them, it opens sideways. Mine is above bench height by about 12 inches whatever that is in metric also and is infact above my built in bigger oven. Hope it all works out for you :)
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Thanks Emme for the photos. My microwave of 16yrs is also a converter and I have to admit I do not use that very often, I too a bit scared of it :o It will not fit a the muffin tray. I find it easier to use the air fryer to heat up a pie etc. Maybe I should experiment more with it. You have got me inspired. Thanks
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I love reading about all these things. Robyn what sort of convection microwave did you buy?
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its a Sharp Cookie
I am going to work in the morning, I can post the model then... :) :)
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No need thanks Robyn. I was just wondering what brand. I thought mine was a Sharp but just checked and it is a Panasonic. We have a Sharp in the caravan.
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cookie mine is a Sharp convention oven R80A0-S ;D
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I have a steam microwave grill by Sharp. I only use the microwave, find the steam a bit messy, it's very wet! And to be hones forget it's got a grill! I love my air fryer for grilling.
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Bedlam, I use my air fryer alot too. :)
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Back again, after a week without an oven I found out that the old one was not repairable. I then had the difficult decision of what to buy. A bit of research and a trip to Harvey Norman I decided on the little Breville Smart Oven suggested by Elsie, when I got the the big chain store ( 60km drive each way ) I took a few of my regular dishes/baking trays that I use to see if they actually fit ( It is alot smaller than my old one so I knew some had no chance )
When I was actually in the store I was quite taken by the model Emme posted, the difference in size was minimal and my last one was Panasonic it lasted 15 years. After a bit of " oh no which one " I chose the Breville. After getting it home plugged it in and got ready for use, I started the TM with a few of my basics, cookies, bimby cake , garlic bread etc etc.
My first impression was massive disappointment and that I had made the wrong decision the cookies cooked unevenly and I could only do one tray at a time, but after a day of cooking I think I really like it, my husband made me a 2nd rack so I can now do 2 level cookies and it is faster than my old microwave/convection. I am sure there will be some things that it is not good for but with a old regular gas oven, a turbo oven a webber Q and and an Air fryer ( Isn't that ridiculous when you write it down ! ) I am sure that it will be great, One thing that I really love about it is that it is able to be used as a warming rack on top while operating which seems to be a great place ( with a rack on top ) for proofing bread.
Thanks for your input, never would have considered the Little breville other than its suggestion on this list.
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Deeau, I think you will come to love the Breville. As mentioned, I use mine all the time and seldom use my big oven. The one thing it does not do very well is toast as I find it dries the bread out. When baking, particularly cookies, I usually rotate the trays but that is something I do in my big oven too. How did your husband make a second rack? That sounds rather useful.