Forum Thermomix
Welcoming Center, Management and General Chat => Chit Chat => Topic started by: dede on April 09, 2012, 11:54:15 am
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Found this comparison for anyone who is interested in reading more.
Interesting reading.
Although I cant say i like the name of the Hotmixpro gastro :)
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http://welfarewisdom.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/hotmix-pro-vs-thermomix-tm31-vs-kenwood.html (http://welfarewisdom.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/hotmix-pro-vs-thermomix-tm31-vs-kenwood.html)
Just realized I forgot to add the link lol.
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LOL Dede I think the name turns me off too :D
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Am I the only one looking at jumping ship? :o :D
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I'd prefer if the review was based on the easy vs tm31, and another one gastro v tm31, to get a clear case of what each one does for the price point.
Loving the new one on the horizon, capable of -24 - +190 degree's! at 4k, I may be dreaming.
May. lol!
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I think the motor of the TM outwins them all. Being that it's a reluctance motor and has no moving parts, using less wattage makes it the winner.
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I have absolutely no allegiance to the TM. If there is a better machine out there, I'll get it. I love this way of cooking and there is no way I am going back to the old way if I can possibly help it. I saw the Hotmix a while ago on the web, the only thing that turned me off a the time was the inbuilt recipes and the fact that what I was watching was in another language, but I can see that inbuilt recipes would be a positive. If you were to go away and take your machine with you, there are inbuilt recipes if you need them and also everyday cooking you don't have to refer to a book rather go by a chefs recipe. I can see the next couple of years there is going to be some stiff competition for the TM, and they may have to lift their game --- bring it on! Yes, there has been some good sales figures but the competition has caught on, and like all good ideas such as the telephone and light globe, you come to accept that you can shop around for a better deal.
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An interesting read, wonder what part 3 will encourage????
Have no problem with other machines, and other people preferring other machines. Just not too sure about this lady's comparison. A little biased towards the HMPG, especially with her mention of the Varoma. Why, when you are spending sooo much money on a machine, would you still want to use the microwave or stove top to steam?
I must admit, I was dumbfounded by her description of there being "a lot to take off to get the blades out to clean the bowl" in reference to the TMX, and going on to say that you just have to unscrew the bolt from the bottom of the blades to get them off the HMPG - mmmmmm, twist a base or unscrew a bolt?????
Just my opinions, take with a grain of salt!
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I thought the same with taking out the blades. I didn't think it could get any easier than the TM. Also where she mentioned about the dials and buttons on the TM being confusing, I think the TM is so easy to set, only takes 2 seconds. (but I have had mine for quiet awhile now and it's second nature)
But saying that I am happy there is some competition out there, might bring the price down (eventually) for the TM or some changes to keep up with the competition.
I do love my TM though :)
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I have not heard of this new machine.
I am all for competition too, anything to bring the price down of the TM or to get some added benefits.
At this stage I woudnt look at another machine at these prices, love my TM & have a load of TM recipe books.
Its going to take me a long time to get through all the recipes I want to try in the TM.
H :)
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Same here Hally, 2 life times would not get me through all these recipes ;D
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I too will watch this with interest. I feel the same as CP and though I LOVE my TM I will use the best method to cook whatever it is I'm cooking that day.
I've always had a problem with how the TM sautees onions, I can never get them cooked enough to get rid of the 'uncooked' taste in some recipes. Doesn't happen in all but anyone familiar with me will know that I tend to do the onions in a frypan and will then add to the bowl and carry on with the recipe. If another machine can have a higher heat and not burn (like the Bellini) then that would be a big plus for me. Saying that though I can't see me shelling out $4000 right now for another machine and yes I would get the more expensive one as I'd hate to get the cheaper one and then regret it.
If the time came where I would need to replace my machine it's good to know that there are starting to be more options out there and by that time the true worth of these new machines will be evident.
Must say I too was a little surprised about the comparison with the bases and how the HMP was easier, it certainly didn't sound so to me ???
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An interesting read, wonder what part 3 will encourage????
Have no problem with other machines, and other people preferring other machines. Just not too sure about this lady's comparison. A little biased towards the HMPG, especially with her mention of the Varoma. Why, when you are spending sooo much money on a machine, would you still want to use the microwave or stove top to steam?
I must admit, I was dumbfounded by her description of there being "a lot to take off to get the blades out to clean the bowl" in reference to the TMX, and going on to say that you just have to unscrew the bolt from the bottom of the blades to get them off the HMPG - mmmmmm, twist a base or unscrew a bolt?????
Just my opinions, take with a grain of salt!
Hello Again, In regards to you comments regarding the Varoms, as the HMP is a commercial machine most kitchens have a Combi Steamer check out this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combi_steamer ) to do the steaming making the Varoma useless as it is too small for most commercial applications, but perfect for the domestic market.
In relation to the blade removal, it is a matter of preference, both systems atre simple but I feel that removing the nut is a simpler system with less chance of breaking the base that the blades clip into with the TMX
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??? Do you mean the old style of blade?
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The blade in HotMix is easy to remove, has a sort of screw bolt which comes off completely. The blade slots into the base of the bowl much the same as in Thermomix apart from the bolt thingy! (To use a technical term!)
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I really hate the name, as I've mentioned on that review.
Hot Mix is what they put on roads. ;D
I think this new more expensive machine(the gastro, or whatever it's called) may be excellent for professional kitchens. But, for home use or small cafe's etc, I'd still go with the Thermomix.
Is the HMP sold using the Direct Selling method? I think that's a big plus for Thermomix, in that consultants (well, good consultants) are there for you after purchase. I also love the fact that so many recipe books are appearing for the Thermomix.
That said, I'd like to see a HMP in action.
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Tenina what do you think of the Hotmix? you mentioned recently that you had one to try.
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I love my TMX. But when it dies (not for a very long time I hope) I would love to have other machines to look at before I replaced it. I love this way of cooking. It seems so quick and with little washing up.
I'll look forward to Tenina's comments.
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Wow I am all for competition in the marketplace and the HotmixPro seems as though it is closer to the TMX than other machines - can only be good for those in the market for the best way of cooking. I agree that HO will need to lift their game :) :)
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I've had a look at the hotmix pro site and they have some interesting recipes to try. The stats say that the motor is more powerful however one recipe for a marinade mentions 30 gr each of leek, onion and 10gr ginger on speed 10 for a minute. My thermie completely annihilates onion at speed 4 after 7 seconds so I'm not sure what I'd be left at.
I love my thermie (Pierre :)) I just wish he'd cook onions properly although my demonstrator who has returned :) mentioned that she always uses red onions and doesn't have the raw onion problem, as I don't generally cook with red onion I'm planning on using Pierre to chop the onion and I'll caremailise them on the steve as always and then add them back in.
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Hi Buttercups. One of the things I love most about my TMX is that it cuts and sautes my onions for me. How long do you let them cook for? I always give mine a blitz, then scrape down the sides, add oil and then cook 100 degrees, 3 mins, sp 1, leaving the MC off. I'm usually fairly happy with them. ALthough I've seen other recipes that do it for as little as 2 mins up to 4 mins.
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Hi Buttercups. One of the things I love most about my TMX is that it cuts and sautes my onions for me. How long do you let them cook for? I always give mine a blitz, then scrape down the sides, add oil and then cook 100 degrees, 3 mins, sp 1, leaving the MC off. I'm usually fairly happy with them. ALthough I've seen other recipes that do it for as little as 2 mins up to 4 mins.
I think we all have our own way of cooking our onions ... I cook mine for 5 mins, varoma temp, speed 1 and MC out ;)
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Also where she mentioned about the dials and buttons on the TM being confusing, I think the TM is so easy to set, only takes 2 seconds. (but I have had mine for quiet awhile now and it's second nature
ryan was cooking full meals completely independently at 7yo with the thermomix. not sure what her intellectual capabilities are lol
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;D Brazen!
I have no problems with onions either. 100, speed 1, 5 minutes. Scrape down occasionally.
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I can't wait for Tenina's to start posting some Hotmixpro stuff.
Gert
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So can you buy hotmix pro in shops, or direct selling.
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So can you buy hotmix pro in shops, or direct selling.
In the shop. Might get one it Tenina's reviews are favourable
Gert
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Have you seen it anywhere Gretchen..
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Whoever sponsored her to write this review was smart.
I'd really prefer it if people would write reviews and be honest about their bias rather than pretending to be non bias but actually are. I like reading bias reports. If everyone wrote bias reports we'd truthfully know the pluses of all the products!
Things I'd want to know: Visable thermostat? I hate digital controlsI had this on a previous machine and it was a pain in the butt!
The higher temperature is probably the only selling feature for me. And it's ugggggly! Lol.
I'm not TMX loyal either but it needs to be better than that to sell my TMX and fork out even more money.
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I had been reading about the MY Cook recently and contacted the company. This is their reply.
There seems to be a lot of interest in these gadgets and variety appearing.
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Hi Rosalie - are you domestic user ? if so My Cook is $1630 + gst and
delivery to you is $30.
Kind regards
Lynda Erskine
RELY - Culinary Technology
0419 360 961
Name: Rosalie
Email: rosalies@internode.on.net
Hi. Can you please tell me where the MyCook is available in Queensland,
Or online in Australia and how much I can expect to pay for one.
Thanks
Rosalie.
Please answer by email as I am often away from phone contact.
Enquiry origin:
http://www.relyservices.com.au/commercial-kitchen-products/icc-mycook-prof
essional/
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Have you seen it anywhere Gretchen..
No I haven't.
Whoever sponsored her to write this review was smart.
I'd really prefer it if people would write reviews and be honest about their bias rather than pretending to be non bias but actually are. I like reading bias reports. If everyone wrote bias reports we'd truthfully know the pluses of all the products!
Things I'd want to know: Visable thermostat? I hate digital controlsI had this on a previous machine and it was a pain in the butt!
The higher temperature is probably the only selling feature for me. And it's ugggggly! Lol.
I'm not TMX loyal either but it needs to be better than that to sell my TMX and fork out even more money.
Did I miss something? What review are you talking about Mrs. Nesbit?
I had been reading about the MY Cook recently and contacted the company. This is their reply.
There seems to be a lot of interest in these gadgets and variety appearing.
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Hi Rosalie - are you domestic user ? if so My Cook is $1630 + gst and
delivery to you is $30.
Kind regards
Lynda Erskine
RELY - Culinary Technology
0419 360 961
Name: Rosalie
Email: rosalies@internode.on.net
Hi. Can you please tell me where the MyCook is available in Queensland,
Or online in Australia and how much I can expect to pay for one.
Thanks
Rosalie.
Please answer by email as I am often away from phone contact.
Enquiry origin:
http://www.relyservices.com.au/commercial-kitchen-products/icc-mycook-prof
essional/
The My Cook is not the Hotmixpro ( gastro) that Tenina is testing.
Am I right ? Now I am confused.
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Sorry.. No. The My Cook is another one of the new gadgets out there..
http://www.mycook.es/kitchen-robot/
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Another one, I had not heard of.
Robyn :)
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Just been looking at the recipes on the HotMixPro website. The desserts mainly.
Some strange ingredients and very poor method explanation in badly translated English
I hope that the machine comes with a recipe book that is a bit easier to understand than the web-site.
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I think Mrs Nesbit is referring to the "review" Tenina wrote about the Hotmix. I could be wrong.
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I think Mrs Nesbit is referring to the "review" Tenina wrote about the Hotmix. I could be wrong.
I must have missed that review. Was it here?
Gert
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Sorry the article posted at the start of this thread, it's a review no? And please forgive me if my post sounded gruff! Didn't mean it to. Just my own little vent ;)
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My dear Mrs. Nesbit, gruff?? Not at all. I was annoyed with myself for maybe missing something. Vent away. Join the club. Venting is good. We love to vent here. We love a soapbox. Ah shucks maybe that is just me and thee and a few others. In any case feel free to tell is like you see it. Open a discussion. Let's talk about stuff and get educated. Lef's share ideas . No stupid questions and no wrong answers here.
Everyone is allowed an opinion here and no one gets narky. Obviously we all ove our Thermomix but there are others here with the Bellini and ThermoChef and we want to also know about other machines and how they compare. I am dying to know how they all work .
Sorry if you thought that I thought you were Gruff. Goodness I hardly know you. In any case only billy goats are gruff and I hardly think you are a billy goat.
Gertiegoat.
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Gretchen I do love your sense of humour. It gives me many chuckles.
I love my soap box and now I want to be a Billy Goat Gruff too. :D :D :D
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Gretchen I do love your sense of humour. It gives me many chuckles.
I love my soap box and now I want to be a Billy Goat Gruff too. :D :D :D
The Billy Goat Gruff was on a bridge wasn't he? That sounds more picturesque than a soap box..
With a troll underneath... ;D ;D
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We could be the Nanny Goats Gruff. Now who can be the trolls? Let me think.
Gertbybridge
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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LOL All good here :) I don't like trolls myself. I tend to eat them for breakfast ;)
As for the article it just read like a promotional, or better yet paid review ;) but heck I'm occasionally a cynic.
I'll go back to my bridge now ;)
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I am going to be a nanny in June (YAY, we are adding some estrogen to this testosterone laden family) so guessing I can be gruff too??
SO FAR: loving several features of Hot Mix Pro (or hereafter HMP) and really excited to keep using it…had a fail today, but first one, and I think I have sourced the reason…human error, which human??? That would be moi…
I think we are on to something exciting here….though there are features on TMX that I love that are missing from HMP….stay tuned!
I will do a proper comparison as soon as I can catch my breath…seriously crazy busy!
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Tenina congratulations! Exciting times! I have all boys as well so I can imagine how nice it will be to have granddaughter
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I am going to be a nanny in June (YAY, we are adding some estrogen to this testosterone laden family) so guessing I can be gruff too??
SO FAR: loving several features of Hot Mix Pro (or hereafter HMP) and really excited to keep using it…had a fail today, but first one, and I think I have sourced the reason…human error, which human??? That would be moi…
I think we are on to something exciting here….though there are features on TMX that I love that are missing from HMP….stay tuned!
I will do a proper comparison as soon as I can catch my breath…seriously crazy busy!
Congratulations. Being a Nanny (I'm Nannie LOL) is a wonderful time of life. I adore all 7 of my grandchildren to bits. And so proud of their acheivements.
And looking forward to hearing your thoughts on HMP. (Hmpfhrey?)
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Congratulations, Tenina! What a joy! Keep us up to date!! :D
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Congratulations Tenina. Being a grandparent is an absolute joy.
Can't wait to see your review of the HMP. I'm particularly interested in how the noise of HMP compares with the thermy.
Our newest granddaughter is just a month old, and her mum is concerned about the noise of a thermy waking her.
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Your life will never be the same once you become a Nanny Tenina - congratulations to all concerned.
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Congratulations Tenina that's wonderful news. :)
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Gertie u r so funny. You have a way saying things that is wonderful. Your sense of humor certainly lightens the place up. Keep it up
DG xxx
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Congrats Tenina. Little GC will have a great nanny who will live and protect her. She will also have a great on solids with all the nutritional food you make.
Love DG xxx
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Congratulations Tenina. Get that desserts 'book' out before she arrives so that you will have lots of time for her.
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;) Thats right Cookie, work doesn't stop just because you are going to be a GP. You still have to think about us :'( Don't get sidetracked making booties and things otherwise we will just wither away to nothing...wither wither wither
(but congratulations - you lucky thing!)
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Put the call out and we'll make the booties etc. :D
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Hahaha...is that the same as a booty call? Not that a 'grandy' would know what that is!!!
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booty call ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Congratulations Tenina! Very exciting times coming up for you.
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Thanks all, Baby shower next week, just plotting my menu….getting some awesome cute cookies made by someone in Albany believe it or not, she is on my page…so great having a big community to draw all the expertise from…any cute ideas gratefully recieved.
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So far behind with all the exciting news - congratulations Tenina - the simplest toy, one which even the youngest child can operate, is called a grandparent. :-*
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Hahahaha, hoping you are right, and i will be putty in her little pudgy hands…
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Just caught up on this thread.. First off haha grtchen lol woman you make my sides hurt 😄😄😄😄
Tenina if i havent already said it elsewher congrats and hat wonderful news..
Cp lol.. Too true wither wither wither.. Tenina you had better not forget us..
Oh and am always interested on a real review of new machines but for the moment nothing has come close to thermie for me anyway so ears peeled..
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foodieatheart do you work for Hotmix Pro?
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That's interesting.
Gert
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The other thing that you need to be aware of when comparing all of these new machines is that some warranties only cover domestic usage and are voided if used in a retail/commercial environment. I know that according to the terms of the Thermochef warranty, it is only covered for domestic usage, my Kenwood is also warranted for normal domestic use. I can't find my Thermomix paperwork at the moment to check what it states. I'm assuming that since the Hotmix is marketed towards a commercial environment, that they would be warranted accordingly.
We often have customers who query why they should purchase a commercial microwave, grill, toaster, milkshake mixer etc etc instead of a cheaper domestic one.....we then have to explain that 1. they are not designed to operate for the amount of time required in even a quiet takeaway and 2. should the manufacturer find out that it has been used in a commercial environment the warranty will be voided. It is the same with the crockery and cutlery we sell, it is designed to stand up to the wear and tear of constant usage. We have customers who purchase cheap crockery from Big W and then wonder why the pattern has vanished or faded after going through a commercial dishwasher a few times...it is not designed for that usage.
Cheap and cheerful is good if you don't need to rely on it and it is not part of business....if you absolutely have to have it working then getting the right equipment with the correct warranty is worth (almost) any price.
(I'm not sure if anyone here is using these machines to produce food product in a restaurant or shop, but I thought it might be worth pointing out that warranty needs to be considered as part of the cost of a item)
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Good post stacelee. Very information and advice. Very helpful.
Gert
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Good post stacelee. Very information and advice. Very helpful.
Gert
Ditto. We can always rely on you for your reviews. Thanks.
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TMX warranty is 12 months for commercial use ;)
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I thought the same with taking out the blades. I didn't think it could get any easier than the TM. Also where she mentioned about the dials and buttons on the TM being confusing, I think the TM is so easy to set, only takes 2 seconds. (but I have had mine for quiet awhile now and it's second nature)
But saying that I am happy there is some competition out there, might bring the price down (eventually) for the TM or some changes to keep up with the competition.
I do love my TM though :)
There were so many inaccuracies regarding the TM31 that I stopped reading and didn't believe that she was an independent reviewer.
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Also where she mentioned about the dials and buttons on the TM being confusing, I think the TM is so easy to set, only takes 2 seconds. (but I have had mine for quiet awhile now and it's second nature
ryan was cooking full meals completely independently at 7yo with the thermomix. not sure what her intellectual capabilities are lol
Brazen!! How great to 'see' you. I was just saying to my husband last night that I miss you and was wondering how you're getting on.
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Congratulations Tenina! I'm so excited for you.
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That's all interesting to know (not that I need anything on a commercial basis) but I never thought about it before as an issue.
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I may be wrong here, but isn't there a commercial warranty for the TMX as well? Maybe a different time frame - does anyone know more about this?
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DG, commercial warranty is only for one year
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HotMixPro, you mentioned that the Gastro is $2500. I thought I read that it was $4000.
The Varoma does it for me with the TMX. So much more versatile and I can cook a whole meal. I don't want to cook any higher than 114 anyway. I don't make things like liquid caramel and honeycomb, so I don't see the purpose.
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without going back reading through all the posts, there are 2x HMP. One is more suitable for the domestic market (ie. the cheaper one $2500) and the Gastro one (I think) is aimed more towards the professional chef/restaurateur
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Pricing for the HMP machines are
The Gastro - $2395.00 + GST
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The Easy - $1895.00 + GST
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Pricing for the HMP machines are
The Gastro - $2395.00 + GST
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The Easy - $1895.00 + GST
Thank you HotmixPro. Best always get get the correct info from the horses mouth. Not that I think you are a horse.
If ever I have to get my Thermomix repaired I doubt HO would be pleased to get MY machine. Might never get it back or it might be bugged. LOL! In that case I would be looking seriously at either of your machines even though I love my Thermomix.
We are all looking forward to Tenina's reviews as she is trustworthy to give an honest opinion.
Gert
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I'd really love to get another jug for my Thermomix (even tho I do have the two for the Thermochef)...I can't tell you the number of times I have all three jugs drying in the sink. I just can't bring myself at the moment to give more money to HQ. I was hoping to pick up a second jug when I was in Munich a couple of weeks ago but unfortunately we didn't get to the shop. It fascinates me that they are now opening Vorwerk stores in Germany, but we still have to deal with only one dealer in Australia. It is really good to see that the market is opening up with more options in machines for people here and that some appear to be true competitors. Unfortunately I'm down one machine as of last night when my Kenwood stopped cooking....it now has to go into hospital for the second time in three months :(.
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After all the bullying of consultants HO are doing, and the way they are treating Tenina, I would not be buying another TMX. I do feel for the consultants though, this is their job and it is being jeapardised by the childish behaviour of HO. I love knowing that I am supporting a local, but will not tolerate giving HO my hard earned $$$$.
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There are more than a few of us who feel that way. I Imagine all the nay sayers to TMX are having a good laugh. Those who desire one are probably looking at alternatives rather than do business with HO.
What a shame stacelee. Could you get a friend to buy another jug in Germany and send it? I hope the doctor fixes your Kenwood.
Nothing will change anyone's behaviour in any way unless a few speak up for others who are unable to do so. That is why bullies are so successful. They live to put fear into others. Nasty business bullying.
Gert
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I am currently running a Special, until the end of the week (04/05/2012) an extra bowl and blade assemble free with each order of either a Gastro or an Easy. Inbox me for dealer contact in your state
I am so tempted. I low having "back up". I am gunna have a look at just what this Hotmix does does.
Gert
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have the forum rules changed. i have a few things for sale 2 ;D
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have the forum rules changed. i have a few things for sale 2 ;D
Ok show us what you've got. LOL!
Gert
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Frank is NOT for sale Uni..... You can hire him out for domestic chores though ;D
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I'ld like to see what you have for sale Uni.
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I have two teenagers going cheap...and would consider all reasonable offers :). Partially domesticated.
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I have two teenagers going cheap...and would consider all reasonable offers :). Partially domesticated.
What about an offer of buy one get one free ;D
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Investigation going on. ;) More news later.
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Investigation over and a few posts have been deleted in the advice of MM.
Thanks MM.
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oh no, i was about to put frank up for sale.
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oh no, i was about to put frank up for sale.
What a bummer I would have put Ted up and we could have had a two fer. ;D ;D
Gert
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maybe on ebay we would get a better price Gert
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maybe on ebay we would get a better price Gert
Yea let's go for it. ;D :D ;)
Gert
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I'd be interested to know how the HMP goes at whipping egg whites???
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I'd be interested to know how the HMP goes at whipping egg whites???
Good question.
Gert
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Did a couple of videos yesterday, one of which was using HMP…gotta say, pretty happy thus far.
Will be showing you some fun stuff soon!
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Looking forward to seeing those.
Gert
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Oooo me too 😃😃😃
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Me three ;D
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Me 4 :) :)
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correct me if i am wrong, it doesn't have a knead option does it ?
the brioche recipe http://www.hotmixpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9%3A22-brioche-dough&catid=3%3Adoughs&Itemid=3&lang=en
*** 10 sec go / 2 sec stop / 10 sec go / 2 sec stop / 10 sec go / 2 sec stop / 10 sec go / 2 sec stop
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correct me if i am wrong, it doesn't have a knead option does it ?
the brioche recipe http://www.hotmixpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9%3A22-brioche-dough&catid=3%3Adoughs&Itemid=3&lang=en
*** 10 sec go / 2 sec stop / 10 sec go / 2 sec stop / 10 sec go / 2 sec stop / 10 sec go / 2 sec stop
Sounds like you just pulse it. Probably works ok .
I wanna see the vdo's Tenina 8)
Gert
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Me 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or whatever it is now. ???
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I'm seriously seriously thinking of getting one of these. My darling daughter is desperate for a thermie and borrows mine all the time. Might just donate thermie to her and treat myself to a Gastro or Easy for Mother's day.
So me 7 :D
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Well I ordered my Hotmix Pro Easy on Monday and pick it up tomorrow.
I look forward to having a chance to compare the two before I hand over Thermie to my daughter.
Needless to say she is delighted. :D :D :D :D
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please keep us up to date on your thoughts on the hotmixpro Merrilyn
yes my DD would be delighted 2
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Ooh! how exciting for you Merrilyn. :)
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I am so excited for you. Keep us informed.
Gert
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Very jealous. Wish you well to use it :)
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I'm excited for you too Merrilyn, can't wait to hear of your thoughts. ;D
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I really wanted to wait for Tenina's report, but had to get my order in to get the free bowl and blades set.
Sure hope it's everything they say it is. I'll keep you updated ladies.
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woohoo! how exciting for you Merrilyn, I can't wait to hear what you think. I wish I could get my hands on one to have a little go, so I will be waiting with baited breath on your feedback.
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Way to go Merilyn. Looking forward to your reviews.
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Excellent Merrilyn and a very lucky daughter.
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Merrilyn You lucky thing. We will be all waiting in anticipation on your thoughts. :)
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Hi Merrilyn, I will be delivering the EASY to Chefs Hat shortly, I expect to be there around lunch time, hope that you enjoy your new toy :)
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Lucky you Merrilyn.
How much is the hotmix pro.
Robyn
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Hi Obbie, pricing has been mentioned previously in this forum
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I emailed hot mix pro website, and they rang me within 2 hours....
Now to read up on it.
Robyn
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Well, DH picked up my Hotmix Pro this afternoon.
First impression out of the box, good looking machine. Not ultra stylish, but neat and business like. Very well packed. I think it would arrive safely no matter how rough the delivery people were. I ordered the EASY, not because of the price, but simply because I thought I would never use the inbuilt recipes, as I have my iPad set up with my recipes and I'm used to using that. I also don't make confectionery, so a temperature of 130 is fine for the cooking I do.
Hmmm what to make. It's 5.30 and we usually eat at 6 so it has to be something simple. Decide on some braised steak and onions and steamed vegetables. Even after a brief read of the instruction book, I felt comfortable with the controls. The screen guides you through, and it's pretty idiot proof. You just need to remember the sequence temp, speed, time. I've written myself a little post-it note for the moment till it becomes second nature.
First impression on cooking - wow, this baby is quiet.
Cooked the onions in a bit of oil on 130 for 5 minutes and set aside. Added the diced beef and a little oil at 130 and after 5 minutes on speed 2 the meat had a nice colour. Put it all together with some beef stock and set the timer for 30 minutes speed 1 temp 110.
Hotmix Pro does not come with a varoma, but the steamer part of my saucepan set fits perfectly on the lid, so in go the vegetables. Not sure if you're supposed to set it up that way, but hey, it works, and everything was beautifully cooked. At the end of cooking, HMP beeped for 30 seconds and turned itself off.
Thirty minutes later we are sitting down to a delicious meal.
Things I really like:-
The lid. Love the way the lid can be lifted up to add ingredients without taking it off completely. And it's easy to fit. A simple click - lock. And the measuring cup locks into place, so it doesn't fall out when the lid is lifted.
The noise - it's certainly quieter than thermie. We were able to watch television quite comfortably with HMP cooking away on speed 2 On speed 10 it's probably the same as Thermie but maybe at a lower pitch so it doesn't appear to be as loud.
Turning off the blades. I started the cooking using the blades on 1 but 15 minutes into cooking, turned them off completely. The meat stayed in nice chunks. I could have probably used either of the two super slow speeds, but wanted to see how it worked if I turned the blades off completely. No sticking!
Steamer insert. Although not supplied with the machine, the steamer insert is stainless steel with a wire handle. I think the price was around $78 plus GST, money well spent.
Things I miss :-
The Varoma. I really like steaming my veggies, but using the top of my steamer saucepan set worked really well so it's easy to get around.
That's about it for now. I haven't really had time to have a thorough test, but so far, I'm delighted with my purchase.
I'll give you further updates as I get into more complicated cooking.
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Forgot to mention the cost. I paid $2156 for the HMP and the additional stainless steel steamer basket (including GST). I was fortunate enough to get my order in during the promotion and received a free additional bowl and blades set. Love having two bowls to work with ;)
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I so liike being able to turn the blades OFF with not sticking so meat still in chunks. Also the higher temp being able to brown. We are going to need a diary on this. LOL!
AND THE QUIET. I sometimes have to move mine into the laundry because I can't stand the NOISE!
Gert
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i wonder how it would go cooking a bolognese sauce. would love to rent one for a week :-))
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If you have a favourite recipe fundj, I'll gladly give it a try for you.
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Thanks Merrilyn. It all sounds quite positive. Keep us updated.
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thanks for the offer Merrilyn :-*
Its not really a recipes just some onions, carrots and some celery and the quantities i make would not fit in it, 1kg mince and a tin (3kg) of tomatoes, and i cook it for 3 to 4 hours. Have u made bol sauce in the TM before, did u like it ? u should make one of ur recipes in the HOTMIX and see which u like the best.
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Sounds really promising Merrilyn. I love that you can turn the blades off.
Uni - do you really use 3kg of tomatoes to 1kg meat in your sauce? I use a similar recipe and normally cook for about 4 hours but I'm going to try having a go in the pressure cooker and see how it comes out.
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Hi Merrilyn, am glad that you are happy with the HMP Easy. Are you aware that you do not need to set the time. The EASY can cook to temperature. For example if you are making a custard, and set say 82°C, then the HMP will switch off at 82°C. No need to set the time......
But or course you can cook to time as well,
Enjoy! :) :) :) :)
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Merrrilyn sounds good, keep us updated.
Robyn
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correct me if i am wrong, it doesn't have a knead option does it ?
the brioche recipe http://www.hotmixpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9%3A22-brioche-dough&catid=3%3Adoughs&Itemid=3&lang=en
*** 10 sec go / 2 sec stop / 10 sec go / 2 sec stop / 10 sec go / 2 sec stop / 10 sec go / 2 sec stop
It has a pulse action that will act like the knead function…
SO Much to do and so little time to come on here and tell you about it…but let me say, happy days….LOVE the quiet, LOVE the no stir function, LOVE the fact I can cook with out timing it and when it reaches temp it turns off….Miss the scale (but that is just cos I am so used to it, not a big deal) and would miss the Varoma if I didnt have a steam oven, (oh and that other thermomix that I still own!! hahaha with a Varoma of course!!) Love the precision of temperature as well…so far so good kids, promise there will be proper blog post soon discussing it…just frantic…frantic, frantic…Thai Thai again classes should be up tomorrow night…so hope WA books in! (All thermomix FYI)
;D ;D
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Sounds really promising Merrilyn. I love that you can turn the blades off.
Uni - do you really use 3kg of tomatoes to 1kg meat in your sauce? I use a similar recipe and normally cook for about 4 hours but I'm going to try having a go in the pressure cooker and see how it comes out.
i didnt not mean in the TM Wonder on the stove top, i dont think it would thicken up in the PC
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uni, i was more interested in the ratio of meat to tomatoes in your recipe, we use a much lower %. I'll need to try adding the minimum amount of liquid and then maybe use the browning function at the end if there is still to much liquid. I'll only do a smaller quantity to see how it turns out
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I know you have to wait for the HotMix Pro Creative to be available in Australia, but to give you a rough guideline to the price, in the UK it is £4,692.00 ATM, which is about AU$ 7483.00 ??? although I suppose it depends on the import duties and taxes that you have there, plus I presume that they would be expensive to transport that distance.
JB
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:o no way i would ever spend that much, unless it did the washing up too ;D
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Any good in the bedroom?
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u mean does it make the bed for u :-))
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U think? :-))
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Now Now Gert ;D ;D
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:o no way i would ever spend that much, unless it did the washing up too ;D
;D Uni. I would love one but no way could I afford it. If I were rich, I would have a professional kitchen in the house, with every gadget under the sun, with a separate kitchen for DH (makes too much mess), but that is just a dream ... But it would be great if it could do the washing up AND clear up mess - that would be worth saving up for. 8)
JB
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I think you girls want a MAID and not a Hotmix.
Gert you need a milkman ;@)
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Or a pool boy ;D
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Too cold for a pool here. Could ice skate on it I guess.
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Or a pool boy ;D
I wonder how Helene got on with her birthday present of a man in a kilt?
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Yes, Men in kilts.
I Hope she lets us know.
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and see ;D
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Wondering if she found out what they wear under their kilts ;)
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;D ;D ;D
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She has a video of him on FB ;D https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=328880147181900
JB
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Thought you might like to read an update on my new Hotmix Pro. I've been cooking up a storm lately and his machine is certainly living up to my expectations.
Made jam, using the cook to temp setting (in this case 110 degrees) and then turn off. Jam was perfect and no scum on top.
Made a spice mix. Thirty seconds on speed 8 and even the hardest grains were pulverised to a fine powder.
Made mushroom risotto using a thermomix recipe. Excellent result.
Made a loaf of wholemeal bread. Now this was interesting. It was a pretty cold day, not ideal for proofing bread dough. I usually sit my bread dough on the window sill in the sun. No sun so I decided to try something different. HMP has a controlled low setting, and as the heating element comes up to about a third of the side of the jug, I put the normal ingredients in, mixed it on "pulse" setting which is pretty much the same as "knead" on the TX and when it was finished, let it sit in the jug to proof at a temperature of 29 degrees with the blades turned off. Forgot about it while I was doing housework, till I glanced at HMP to see the measuring cup sitting on top of a plume of bread dough slowly working it's way out through the hole in the lid. Hmmmmm well that works :D
Bread was very light with lots and lots of tiny holes (is that called a fine crumb) don't know the technical term, but you'll know what I mean. So, yes, it makes a good loaf of bread and proofing in the bowl was a bonus. You won't find that written in the instruction book. I just made it up myself ;D
I'm going to try some toffee next - just because I can - all for the grandchildren of course. None for me :-)
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Merrilyn sounds like your having lots of fun with your new machine. Great to have some first hand info from a x-TM owner (I'm assuming you have passed the TM on to you DD) well done
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Oh yes dede. She's loving it. Well who wouldn't. And it saves her having to drive to my house to borrow it :D :D
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Thanks Merrilyn for keeping us informed. I for one am interested to see how it goes. Would love to know how it sautees onions and whether it can do them as good as in a frypan. Please, if you do any, let me/us know. :D
Also like how you can set for the jelling temp of jam and then have it turn off. :)
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I'm enjoying reading your review Merrilyn. It sounds as though it may give the TMX a run for it's money.
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Julie, just tried sautéing some onions. Five minutes on speed 1 and temp 110 and the onions were transparent and well cooked.
Cookie, It does a lot of things really well, as good as thermy so far, but I'm missing the scales and the varoma. But I do love the extra heat (up to 130 degrees) and being able to turn off the blades so it can be used just like a saucepan. I'm slowly getting used to using all the extra features, like the cook to temperature and then either stop or ask it to cook for a set time at that temp. And on low speeds, it's really quiet.
I have to say that it's the only machine I've seen that even comes close to thermie in quality but it does have extra features that thermie does not have. Then again, thermie has a varoma and scales which HMP doesn't have. I love my thermie, it really taught me how to cook, but if I was ever to buy another machine, I'd buy another HMP.
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Thanks for doing that Merrilyn, sounds perfect to me. :)
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Merrilyn, thans so much for taking the time to post your experiences with the HMP . I find it really interesting.
Gert
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JulieO, you want the onions browned/caramelized though don't you? Merrilyn's onions in the Hotmix Pro sound the same as if they were cooked in our TMX for that length of time using varoma temp.
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I want onions golden like in a frypan. No amount of cooking on Varoma does this for me. I can always detect a rawness in both smell and taste. Thought the higher temp that the HMP can go to might counteract this.
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Sounds like the HMP is going to give thermomix a alternative.
Robyn :)
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Competition is always good.
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JulieO, you want the onions browned/caramelized though don't you? Merrilyn's onions in the Hotmix Pro sound the same as if they were cooked in our TMX for that length of time using varoma temp.
Sorry, I should have explained it a bit better. The onions were beginning to brown on the edges at the 5 minute mark. Had I let them go longer, or used a higher temp they would have been caramelised. At the transparent/golden stage they were well cooked and no raw taste.
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Oh you lucky thing Merrilyn! When I win Lotto this weekend I'm going to buy a HMP - sounds like a winner!
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Ah, that's better then Merrilyn. Now I see the difference.
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To thermomix owners, the HMP sounds like a great addition to the kitchen as opposed to a spare jug... Sounds like a fantastic machine. Might have to start putting $10 away a week.... Will take awhile, but oh how sweet that day would be!!!
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Just came across the Welfarewisdom "review", part 1 seemed fine but part 2 left me quickly questioning it once she started talking in the review and comments below about the blade removal and then it went downhill from there really. Particularly the bit regarding the displays / visible information. I'd much rather have the TMX's all visible than a single blueish LCD.
Certainly the saucepan like ability is nice, the being able to cook in 1 degree increments _could_ be nice but I've never though oh it would be great if I could get 38 degrees rather than 37. (And I'd fret all the time about which exact temp I should be using for a dish) I was amused at the knocking the TMX for making caramel / nougat because you need to transfer the contents to another pan and yet going peh regarding the lack of Varoma and saying you could just use a pan to do that.
(That all said, I have no idea how I ended up on that review now ... Oh yes seeing HotmixPro in the about section of Tenina's website and wondering what the heck it was)
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Reading this thread (as apparently I haven't anything else to do ;D ), my to questions are:
What is HO doing to annoy everyone?
How were they treating Tenina?
(You can tell its been nearly a year since I've been active here)
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Hi Rob,
well Ho don't like Tenina since she quit Ho. :'(
second she is promoting HMP, which She has the right to promote/ advertise what she believes in..
I also have one on order, will get next week.
I am buying one, as I think I will benefit from this machine, in conjuction with my thermomix.. Busy, working Mum, 5 days a week, cooking for Family and elderly parents..
I make lunches, dinners, bake ect all the time. We never have takeaway, or go out to a restaraunt, except for 1 week holiday a year.
It will help me..
I think HO Thermomix aust, are worried by HMP. :)
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Any further review on the hit mix pro? I'm thinking my new kitchen could use a new appliance ;)
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Obbie has one as does tenina and I think someone else bought one so you will prob here from them althogh obbie is offline this weekend so ,aybe not until monday and tenina is away on a retreat..
There is a giveaway on facebook on teninas page cooking with tenina ifby some chance. You didnt have it fyi :)
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Any further review on the hit mix pro? I'm thinking my new kitchen could use a new appliance ;)
There is a Hotmix Pro Forum dedicated to the appliance which is probably the way to go if you want to find enthusiasts of the machine.
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Some great laughs on this thread - miss you ladies!!
From what I've been reading pluses and minuses to both machines - if I could have two I'd def go with one of each! But as a busy home cook who loves the varoma and scales (to shorten my cooking time by a lot) and doesn't do much baking/sweet cooking then I'd go the tmx. Though the higher temps for cooking onions etc and turning off the blades are two big bonuses for the hmp.
Would love to hear more from those that have both as to what they think.
I read that original blog comparison but omg how biased was that.
Have a couple of friends looking to buy so would be good to point them to some unbiased info on both machines.
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just popped into work for my internet Fix, I have both.
If you want info PM me. :)
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I also found the FoodMuster's review of HMP to be biased so I posted a comment on her site to request that she disclosed to the readers whether she was receiving any benefits, financial or otherwise, from HMP for publishing her review and thoughts on the subject. Interestingly, I note my comment was removed (or not published) and so no response provided.
I think if you are endorsing or promoting a product, you should be at least be open and honest about the fact you are being paid to do so.
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MEP, I can assure you that there was no payment made to the Foodmuster blog, apart from some advertising space at the top of the page which was negligible