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Thermomix Recipes for TM5 and TM31 => Festive Seasons => Topic started by: mama_bel on November 27, 2009, 10:02:29 am
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Several festive recipes call for a can of sweetened condensed milk. I have seen a recipe on the Simple Savings site for Condensed Milk made in the saucepan, and wonder if anyone's made it in the Thermomix? I've made dulce de leche (caramel) but to go a step back, do I just cook for a shorter time? I've searched the forums to no avail...
Here's some recipes -
Dulce de Leche (from Bron's recipe)
1 litre milk
250g organic raw sugar
200g cream
1/2 teaspoon bicarb
Place all in TMX and program 40 mins, Temp Varoma Speed 4. Place basket on lid to allow it to evaporate without spitting.
When finished, quickly pour into jar and leave it to cool. When it cools it will be nice and thick. Keep in the fridge.
Condensed Milk #1 recipe (Hillbilly Housewife recipe)
250ml water
370g sugar
200g milk powder
6 tbsp melted butter (or less)
Place all ingredients in the blender and let it blend for a full two minutes. Thickens further in fridge.
*Extra hint: Use hot water and dissolve the sugar before adding the other ingredients.
Keep it refrigerated. Makes the equivalent to two tins and can be used in any recipe that calls for it.
Condensed Milk #2 recipe (Destitute Gourmet recipe)
3/4 cup sugar
1/2 cup warm water
1 heaped cup of full fat milk powder
Dissolve sugar in water then whisk in milk powder , simmer gently, stirring constantly for about 5 mins. Makes about 1 cup or 1 can's worth of condensed milk.
Apparently it's fine with soy and goat's milk powders, and also with rice flour. I want to use our full cream raw cow's milk from our house cow. I guess I'll need to add powdered milk to thicken it?
Help!
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Think I'd give it a go just cooking less than Dulce de leche without adding milk powder to start. Should work - just add smaller amount of sugar to start. You can add more if it isn't sweet enough when thickened.
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I remembered that I had a TMX recipe for condensed milk which I found for a friend, but unfortunately I haven't noted which website I took it from, to be able to credit it :( Here it is anyway, and apologies to whoever originally wrote it that I haven't credited you.
Condensed Milk in Thermomix
Ingredients
100g water
220g powdered milk
80g sugar.
Method
Blitz the sugar for a 8 seconds on speed 9. Then add water.
Cook 5 minutes at 80 degrees on speed 1 until sugar dissolves.
Add the powdered milk and cook another 3 minutes at 50 degrees on speed 4.
Hopefully, though, someone will come up with a recipe which doesn't need powdered milk. I have a bit of a thing about powdered milk for some reason.
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Thank you both!
I don't really want to use powdered milk either. The cow's supplying heaps right now, so maybe I just need to experiment with the dulce de leche recipe, and for a shorter time. I wonder what the bicarb does?
Thanks again! Now, if I could get to my Thermomix (teenage daughters cooking, cooking, cooking) I'd give it a go today! :p
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I wonder what the bicarb does?
Just ask the Domestic Goddess http://www.nigella.com/recipe/recipe_detail.aspx?rid=21290 (http://www.nigella.com/recipe/recipe_detail.aspx?rid=21290) See point 2.
It would probably pay to put it in for the first batch. It will help neutarlise acidity.
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I decided that I wasn't going to be beaten by this ;D
I've done a fair bit of Googling, and have finally come up with this from http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=How%20to%20make%20your%20own%20sweetened%20condensed%20milk (http://www.astray.com/recipes/?show=How%20to%20make%20your%20own%20sweetened%20condensed%20milk):
Yield 4 cups
Measure Ingredient
6 cups Whole milk
4½ cup Sugar
½ Vanilla bean
Judging from the original instructions, you'd put it all in together, speed 4 / 90oC / 60 mins with MC removed and internal steamer basket placed on top instead.
Alternatively, you could try mixing the Dulce de Leche idea with this, and add the bicarbonate to stop it splitting, then use Varoma temp for an initial 20 mins and estimate from there whether / how much longer is needed.
Hope this helps. Let me know which recipe you used in the end, and how you got on. I'm really interested now :D
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Thanks CarolineW - we don't use much milk, let alone condensed - but I may have to try it.
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Thank you both!
I don't really want to use powdered milk either. The cow's supplying heaps right now, so maybe I just need to experiment with the dulce de leche recipe, and for a shorter time. I wonder what the bicarb does?
Thanks again! Now, if I could get to my Thermomix (teenage daughters cooking, cooking, cooking) I'd give it a go today! :p
The bicarb promotes browning in the cajeta or dulce de leche.
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Ooooh...thanks Caroline. Will try that last recipe you posted. It will be nice to have SCM not made by Nestle!
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However tries it first, keep us posted! :o :o :o :o
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Okay, so I have had Dulce de Leche fail 2 days in a row. Within 10 mins it has overflowed and spilled all over TMX and the bench (and the first day, the floor and a shelf and stuff - till I moved tmx). Anyway, I saved what was left in TMX bowl and it tastes like condensed milk, but isn't thick. Immi (DD 13 yrs) is going to try it in the ice cream recipe with condensed milk, cream, etc.
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Possibly it is getting too hot. The "trick" to dulce de leche is slow cooking at a low temperature.
I make dulce de leche in a crockpot and it is a cinch and needs little attention. I got my recipe from a neighbor who is from Mexico (Durango) and mine is made partly with goat milk - which is the authentic base.
I've tried it on the stovetop and in the oven but both times had boil-over problems. Fortunately the pan in the oven was inside a larger pan but the stovetop was a mess. Fortunately mine is fairly easy to clean.
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I think as long as the milk is moving fast enough the bubbling over should possibly be avoided?
Not sure why it happened to mama_bel, but others have had success - eg http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/topic/125907-thermomix-collection/page__view__findpost__p__1699531__s__17958315c3e78ed47b9d15eb6f2ddb7f (http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/topic/125907-thermomix-collection/page__view__findpost__p__1699531__s__17958315c3e78ed47b9d15eb6f2ddb7f)
Can anyone tell me why milk doesn't boil over when you put one of those flat glass gizmos in the base? My mum used to use it in her pots when boiling milk.
Extra - OK, found some more answers here: http://lifehacker.com/5406192/use-a-spoon-to-prevent-milk-from-boiling-over (http://lifehacker.com/5406192/use-a-spoon-to-prevent-milk-from-boiling-over) and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_watcher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_watcher)
So, it may be that you need faster speed fora while, or put the spatula in at an angle so some steam gets out while the top keeps getting broken to prevent the foamy layer?
Good luck
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OK - still more - the picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Solidex_Package_Back.JPG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Solidex_Package_Back.JPG) shows that you can use it for sooking pasta - I never knew that !!!!
Also mam_bel - if you have a small fan, then you could aim it into the hole in the lid to prevent the boil over
http://www.boilingminder.com/ (http://www.boilingminder.com/)
Ok, no reason to fail now
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When I make DDL in the TMX I cook on 90 or 100 until it gets quite reduced then go up to varoma temperature once it doesn't boil over any more.
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Wow, this is great!! I want to try this with rice-almond milk - a couple of dairy-free friends were just asking me at our last cooking class what we could use instead of condensed milk! Thanks all! :)
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Measure Ingredient
6 cups Whole milk
4½ cup Sugar
½ Vanilla bean
OK - I'm making this now - almost finished. I've added another 10 mins on to the cooking time as it still seems a bit too watery after an hour. It did start to froth out of the hole in the lid early on, but never overflowed. You know - I had to make the big sacrifice & scoop of the froth - and then I had nowhere to put it - besides my hips :D YUMMMMOOOOOO!!!!!
I also dropped the speed back to 3 after about 40 mins as Thermie is making funny rattly noises at 4 (OK at 3 & 5 though).
As I've already got the basket in the bowl, I won't bother using another strainer. That will be enough to keep the vanilla pod out of the bottles :)
ETA - It ended up being more like 1.5 hours, but I had more at the end than the original recipe stated & it was not as thick & syrupy as the canned stuff. I'm going to wait & see if it thickens slightly as it cools, otherwise next time, I'll just cook it longer. Tastes delish, though!
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Thanks for being a guinea pig :-*
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Will be interested to hear how it looks in the morning gemiNy.
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Still a bit too runny. Might try reducing it a bit in a normal saucepan tomorrow.
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Ny, did you mean you had the basket inside the jug?
Mr T, thank you for the links, I have more tricks to try now.
And thanks everyone else for the tips too. I'm almost brave enough to try it again. Nothing quite like a sugary milk mess to turn one off cooking!
Our part-cooked Dulce de Leche didn't become thick like tinned condensed milk. The kids have used it in a few ways anyway. Waste not...
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Bel - did you see the Dulce de Leche thread - it is the speed.
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Ha! That's what I thought, Bel! Maybe you could try it in the garage, then if it overflows it won't matter so much! :D
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Thanks, got the speed hint now.
I did threaten to run an extension lead to the outside table. It's the icky-ness over the TMX which bothered me most though, more than the kitchen. Last time I placed a tea towel under (a towelling one, quite absorbent) AFTER weighing in everything, so clean-up was way less.
After seeing Thermomixer's video on the Dulce de Leche thread, I'm brave enough to try again!
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Ny, did you mean you had the basket inside the jug?
Yeah - that's how I read the recipe to mean, so that's what I did. I think the hole in the lid is possibly too small to allow sufficient evaporation.
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GemiNy, the steaming basket is supposed to sit over the hole in the lid to stop splashing but to allow for evaporation.
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Ahhhh....thanks Judy. I'll try it again some time that way :)
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Did you see the video ?
(http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/thermomixer/th_MOV04687.jpg) (http://s489.photobucket.com/albums/rr257/thermomixer/?action=view¤t=MOV04687.flv)
Remember to keep the speed up too.
Also check http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=890.msg27729#msg27729 (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=890.msg27729#msg27729)
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Has anyone successfully made condensed milk with any of these recipes as yet? I'm going to make another batch of Tenina's chocolate fudge (little slices of heaven) but don't want to risk ruining the fudge with dodgy condensed milk (400g chocolate just CANNOT be wasted :D )
I'd love to hear any feedback - and advice as to whether I should stick to a tinned version for the fudge.
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Condensed Milk in Thermomix
Ingredients
100g water
220g powdered milk
80g sugar.
Method
Blitz the sugar for a 8 seconds on speed 9. Then add water.
Cook 5 minutes at 80 degrees on speed 1 until sugar dissolves.
Add the powdered milk and cook another 3 minutes at 50 degrees on speed 4.
your recipe that you posted is the one that I have made quite a few times with great success. I can't taste the difference between the can and this one. love it, and highly recomend it :D
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I made the recipe for condensed milk from Mamabel, it was the second recipe, the one from the Destitute Gourmet. It made the equivalent of one tin. It was good enough to use in cooking, eg. my malt biscuits, but not good enough for any recipe where it is the dominate flavor. I am going to try the other 2 recipes as both will be a lot cheaper than the bought stuff.
Today I bought a jar of genuine Dulce de Leche, from a Spanish shop ($4) so that I can taste it and see how the TMX one compares. Also bought some chocolate and Almond Turron. I have never tasted it so as I thought I might make some, thought I had better taste the genuine article. Will let you know how they compare.
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Thanks CP63 and chookie. I think I'll do a batch with a can, and a batch with the recipe I posted that you're using, CP63. Sounds like comparing results is a good excuse for making loads of fudge to me ;)
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Good to see you doing some serious research :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Good to see you doing some serious research :-* :-* :-* :-*
All in the interests of science and my fellow forum members, obviously ;) :D
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I used some of the TMX Condensed Milk in the Malt Biscuits. Slightly different flavor. I'm probably the only one who noticed, If it is a matter of cost, then I would buy from the supermarket when on special as it works out the same price. If , however you wish to make it for other reasons, then it is an acceptable sub.
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I know this is an old post, but I just wanted to add my experience today here, in case it is of interest to anyone. I wanted to make Condensed Milk purely for using in icecream (DH's favourite version), so used an approximation of the recipe posted earlier in this topic without powdered milk. I used:
1 litre unhomogenised organic milk
750g raw sugar
1 tblspn vanilla extract
Cooked it at Varoma temp on speed 4.5 (speed 4 is too slow, as per TMXer's experiment) for 20 minutes initially, then kept going for 10 minute increments for an additional 30 minutes. This was too much though. After 40 minutes in total, I still didn't think it was quite enough, but in retrospect, it may have been (especially as it thickens as it cools). So perhaps 40-45 minutes might be just right.
Anyway, I used 200g of my "poor man's Dulce de Leche" with 600mls of cream and some more vanilla to make ice cream and I think it is as good as using a can of condensed milk (probably better, because the milk was organic and I've used less than whole can).
When I mixed up the ice cream mixture, the milk mixture was still quite hot and pretty runny and so it mixed with the cream really well. Now that the condensed milk has sat in the fridge it is pretty solid so I think I will have to melt it some before adding the cream as I don't think it would get on too well with the butterfly!
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1 litre unhomogenised organic milk
750g raw sugar
1 tblspn vanilla extract
O....M....G....!!!!!!!
Sooooooooooooooo much better than my previous attempt at SCM. Seriously good! My pancreas is screaming at me, but I can barely hear it over the squeals of delight from my tastebuds ;)
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Lol ;D
When I make this these days, I've actually cut the sugar down to 1/2 the volume of milk. So if I make a small batch (say enough for making icecream), I use 500g milk, 250g sugar and vanilla and cook it for just over 1/2 the amount of time.
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Oooh, thanks!
I'd like to try the ice-cream recipe but was put off b/c it contained condensed milk - I don't like it bc is WAAAAAAYY to sweet. It never occured to me I could make my own! Now I can make & use 1/3 the sugar & then use it in the ice-cream recipe. YUM!
Thanks for the revolutionary thought!
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Condensed Milk in Thermomix
Ingredients
100g water
220g powdered milk
80g sugar.
Method
Blitz the sugar for a 8 seconds on speed 9. Then add water.
Cook 5 minutes at 80 degrees on speed 1 until sugar dissolves.
Add the powdered milk and cook another 3 minutes at 50 degrees on speed 4.
I just made this and it's perfect. I can't tell the difference between this and the tin. I made a mistake though and after powdering the sugar (20 seconds on 10, leave mc on until it settles, tap to shake powder down before opening), I added the milk powder. To rectify it, I added 100g of boiling water, cooked at 50deg for 3 minutes on speed 5 and then one minute at 80deg speed 5.
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Mashley, a little tip when grinding ingredients into powder is to put some clingfilm over the bowl under the lid, less dust and its not in the lid.
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I needed condensed milk for a recipe yesterday so decided to give this a go. I was very pleased with the result. It was a bit thinner than tinned condensed milk but I think a little less sweet.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/12/07cf43a9c14caf6f6d0f999fbe3e602a.jpg)
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Recipe from South African Odyssey for condensed milk is wonderful and only takes 5 minutes.
300gm sugar
150gm full cream milk powder
160gm full cream milk
Grind sugar in 2 batches of 150gm 15 seconds speed 9 add other ingredients and cook 4 minutes 90C speed 4.
I tend to cook for 4 minutes after temperature reached and then continue stirring speed 3 without heat until temperature drops to 50 when I bottle it.
Before washing bowl add a cup of coffee and whizz for a perfect cappuccino :)
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Thanks for the recipe Shayla.
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Thanks Shayla. It's so good to be able to make your own condensed milk. Another tin less in the pantry.