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Thermomix Recipes for TM5 and TM31 => Condiments and Sauces => Topic started by: monkeyboyzmum on April 26, 2011, 08:31:08 am
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This is my TM conversion of my macaroni cheese sauce I have been making for over 30 years
Tonight we are having it with broccoli and cauliflower - I have just popped it in the oven while the steak cooks
Grate 180g tasty cheese on speed 8 for 5 seconds
Add
45 g flour
50 g butter
1 tsp mustard powder
1/2 tsp salt
pinch cayenne
500 g milk
Cook 7 mins 90 deg speed 4
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This sounds great and I will give this a go. I make a mean cheese sauce on the stove but since getting my new thermomix have used their recipe about twice and it is very gluggy.......I'm still in the process of converting my recipes to thermo as I prefer mine. The only problem is that mine are all by sight not by weight!!!! Lets hope yours gives me the weights. ;D
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Thanks for posting your version. Will try tonight. Love cheese sauce.
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This looks great - I'm a sucker for a good cheese sauce.
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This looks yummy. Will be trying this real soon. Thanks
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Having a roast tonight and thought I make a cheese sauce to go over some broccoli. You've just saved me the trouble of looking for one as I don't really like the EDC version. Thanks heaps - I'll let you know how it goes.
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I made it for the colli/broc too, and we did enjoy it.
It does taste like a real cheese sauce, compared to the EDC bechamel sauce with cheese added - IYKWIM :)
Next time I will try it with cornflour, as that's a personal preference.
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Just finished making this with rice flour that I milled. A quick taste before pouring over the cauliflower and broccoli and it's yum. As Maddy says, it tastes like a real cheese sauce. Not just bechamel with cheese added.
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Hope you don't mind monkeyboyzmum.....I slightly tweaked your recipe, and really loved it!
I used 200g tasty cheese & 45g cornflour, and kept the rest as listed.
:-* Thanks.....I have ditched the EDC one for sure :)
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I'll just wipe my screen now Maddy! Please tell me you will share that pasta bake recipe with us? :D
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LOL.....it's Johnro's beef macaroni bake http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=4246.0
I also add to her recipe:
1 large red capsicum, use 2 carrots, 2 tsp. masterfoods pizza topper, and some chopped fresh basil. I also leave out the peas (blerk! ;D)
I cook the full 500g packet of macaroni, and mix with the beef mix and tip all in a roasting pan. It makes enough then to freeze.
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We had Johnro macaroni Beef as well tonight and it was very tasty and a hit with the kids. I think I will try this cheese sauce next time just to say I have tried it and decide which one I would prefer.
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Brilliant, thanks so much Maddy :D
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maddy is 45g cornflour too much? its such a light fine powder i don't like it when it is tooooo thick.
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Surpisingly it wasn't too thick.....a nice thicker pourable sauce. It certainly seemed thinner than the EDC bechamel.
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We had this awesome cheese sauce last night as a potato bake sauce. I 3/4 cooked the potatoes first then poured the cheese sauce over top and finished it off in the oven. Was a really nice combo without being to strong in taste. I will definitely be using this again, Thanks for sharing.
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Made this last Friday with the Macaroni and it was great. Must say I was a little surprised when I took off the lid to find a ball of mixture instead of a nice creamy sauce to pour over the macaroni mix...
...oops! forgot to add the milk :o but blended a bit in and then gave it a bit of a mix and a stir and hey presto! we have sauce
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Try that in a saucepan CP :D :D
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This is my TM conversion of my macaroni cheese sauce I have been making for over 30 years
Tonight we are having it with broccoli and cauliflower - I have just popped it in the oven while the steak cooks
Grate 180g tasty cheese on speed 8 for 5 seconds
Add
45 g flour
50 g butter
1 tsp mustard powder
1/2 tsp salt
pinch cayenne
500 g milk
Cook 7 mins 90 deg speed 4
I dont know if its the language, but where is the cheese?
Anyway this looks very much like a sauce Bechamel which is a classic french mother sauce, except the cayenne and the mustard powder. If you add cheese to the sauce you will get a Mornay Sauce.
This is not a critic of your sauce and im sure its very nice for lots of dishes its only a comment to explain you the correct name and origin of the sauce you are making.
Another nice way to flavor Bechamel is to infuse it with Bay leaves and add a bit of nutmeg.
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It's on the 3rd line from the top bluesed. ;)
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Thank you for the great cheese sauce recipe - I too will be using this for the old favourite in our house macaroni beef (I made it for a share luncheon with staff at school the other day and called it poor man's lasagne. I used Maddy's adaptation and increased the amount of cheese. Really great monkeyboyzmum. :) :)
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Thank you monkeyboyzmum and maddy's tweaks for this delicious recipe.
Made this last night and used a mixture of gruyere, Parmesan and tasty cheese.....yummo
This will definitely replace the edc recipe!!
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This is just wonderful! I made this to go with johnro's macaroni beef, and it is sooooo much nicer than the EDC recipe. I will be making it again tonight to go on cauliflower cheese. Thanks for a wonderful recipe :-*
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Thank you Monkeyboyzmum this is delicious ;D.
I made it into quick tuna mornay:
When sauce is cooked, stir in (on reverse) a large (375g) can of drained tuna. Then stir in (on reverse) some cooked (1 1/2 cups raw) pasta shells.
Pour into a casserole dish and sprinkle with parmesan and oatbran or bread-crumbs and bake in a moderate over for about 25 minutes.
(By putting the pasta water on to boil before starting the sauce, the pasta was cooked by the time the sauce was ready for pasta to be added.)
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Thank you for this Monkeyboyzmum. I thought the cheese sauce from my FEC UK was a bit glutinous so I shall be giving yours a go on monday.
DD
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Finally made this tonight to pour over some steamed vegies. It is indeed different to the EDC one (much tastier) but mine was a bit runny - used the recipe as stated so will try the cornflour version next time. In hindsight perhaps I should have cooked it a tad longer to see if that had any affect in this cold weather. Will not give up though as the taste is much better than any other.
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I was dubious because I love the EDC béchamel sauce and quite liked it with the cheese added. But since this got rave reviews I made this tonight with steamed veggies, pasta spirals and bacon, all topped with breadcrumb/cheese mix (no parsley at the mo). OMG all 5 of us loved it!!! Ate way too much!!! This will be a regular and is on the menu for when my Scottish in-laws come for 7 weeks later this year- they love cauliflower cheese and this will surely impress! Thank you... Definitely worth the special and awesome title!!!
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Made this tonight and used it for a Vegetable bake made up of Potato, Pumpkin, Sweet potato, Carrot, onion and Zucchini. I thought it was very yummy but the little ones didn't touch theirs (But thats typical for them). DH isn't home to have his jet but Im certain he will enjoy it as well.
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I dont know if its the language, but where is the cheese?
Anyway this looks very much like a sauce Bechamel which is a classic french mother sauce, except the cayenne and the mustard powder. If you add cheese to the sauce you will get a Mornay Sauce.
This is not a critic of your sauce and im sure its very nice for lots of dishes its only a comment to explain you the correct name and origin of the sauce you are making.
Another nice way to flavor Bechamel is to infuse it with Bay leaves and add a bit of nutmeg.
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Jd is right the cheese is up the top and the first ingredient used ie need to grate it then add the rest of the ingredients but have to say I thought the same bluesed but didnt want to assume who did or didnt know about the 5 french mother sauces that apparently you can make any sauce from called grandes sauces or sauces meres in french...dont know if you can make all sauces from these five but apparently yes.... the french are the kings at sauces along with bread, pastries lol and the list goes on so its probably best to believe what chefs say and that you can indeed make all sauces from these five bases...i make alot of sauce but not 'that' many sauces to comment from personal experience..thats a hell of a lot of sauce haha. One positive about watching chefs, cooking shows, classes here etc is that they tend to be technically based (as are the french in general...very stuidous bunch) is that you pick up all sorts of tips and info that you proboably wouldnt otherwise come across as a 'mum' cook :)
think if i remember the five are Bechamel Sauce (white), Veloute Sauce (blond), Brown (demi-glace) or Espagnole Sauce, Hollandaise Sauce (butter) and Tomato Sauce (red) (ended up googling them as couldnt remember all five lol)
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Made this to pour over cauli. With Roast Duck dinner, beautiful. Will replace EDC recipe with this. Thanks for this recipe.
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On the same wavelength chookie. I'm having over cauli as well with roast pork for dinner tonight.
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Made this tonight and it was the perfect consistency for macaroni cheese! Went down a storm. I don't think I've ever made a sauce that smooth by hand LOL :)
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Made this today and is too delicious for words!!! Will never make cheese sauce any other way again ...
JB
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If asked what was my favourite thing about my thermomix, I would have to say this cheese sauce!!
I have passed it on to so many people and coming from someone who makes it at least once a week, it has been the best timesaver. I only do a half quantity for au gratin type of recipes but a whole recipe for lasagne. I always make it a tad runnier and use semi skim milk. I have never had a fail with it yet.
Gone are the days of standing and stirring and checking for thickness and watching for lumps. lol
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I've made this one twice and have to agree it is indeed a lovely cheese sauce and the only way to make it.
Having said that, I need some advice as to why mine is too runny. I have used both cornflour and plain flour to see if there is any difference plus I have tried cooking it longer and that didn't work either. I have now made a note on the recipe to only use 400 mls of milk next time to see if that will give me the consistency I want for au gratin vegies and even pasta. I want it to cling to the vegies and pasta not pool in the bottom of the dish and leave nothing on the top. I know you need it runnier for pasta as that soaks it up but mine is still too runny. I seem to be the only one having this problem as I have never read of anyone else commenting about it.
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Judy, this is maddy's twin responding, maddy is too busy painting!
Could the problem be the cheese perhaps ??? Do you use the quantity listed, or add 200g cheese like maddy does. She uses 200g coles brand block of tasty cheese, grated in the processor.
I will pass on your response to her :P
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nice try miss now get back to painting!!!!
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Made this today to pour over a pasta bake. Delicious. A bit runny but no complaints really.
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I only ever make a half batch and pour over steamed cauliflower and it's still heaps. It usually sits around waiting for the cauli to cook and it's never a problem, always throw in a handful of chopped parsley at the end. So easy for a quick meal.
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Hi Maddy's twin sister, tell Maddy I use the lesser amount but will try her quantity next time. How about you go and give your sister a helping hand in the bedroom, she needs it ;)
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Mine was certainly nice and thick, but I did put it in the Varoma whilst the broccoli cooked which may have helped. I used mostly Isle of Mull Cheddar with some Cheshire cheese. Will try with Parmesan next time.
JB
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I have made this several times since I first tried it in June. It is now in my personal recipe book as my cheese sauce of choice.
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Made this last night with a combination of tasty and parmesan cheese and it was fantastic. I only made half the recipe but cooked for the full lenght of time and after sitting in the TMX for 5 minutes while I par cooked the cauliflower it was very thick. Just had the leftovers with my lunch today and still tasted great.
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i have made this a few times but each time with whatever cheeses I have in the fridge...both hard and soft cheeses...works well and just add different vegies or a little sauteed onion at times too!
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my girls are in love with you... :-*!! They are now getting all their favourite lunches cooked up for them - most use this sauce!! I have used it in their: salmon mornay, macaroni beef (off this site), mac cheese, bacon and pasta bake ..... anything that needs a cheese sauce - and they have requested (& had!!) it on a few things that don't usually have a cheese sause over them - but all have been surprisingly nice: sausages cut into pennies w this sauce poured over, chicken drums and steamed veg, - they seem to enjoy it more than gravy!!!!! But if they're going to eat it, then who's complaining???!!
Also I often do add 1/2 - 1 C pureed cauliflower with the milk - just to get more unnoticed veg into them! ;)
I use the recipe as it is, see no reason to change it! 100% yum!
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I'm going to make this sauce again today but without the cheese ;D DH is allergic to cheese so I am going to try the same method and ingredients but will replace the cheese with whole green peppercorns and a little vegetable bouillon powder. Will let you know how I get on. Think I might need to reduce the amount of liquid as cheese adds to the thickening process (I think?).
JB
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I made the peppercorn sauce today and reduced the milk quantity to 440g - wrong thing to do. You do need the full 500g or possibly even more. It tasted fine, just too thick. I will prefect the recipe and add it when I make it again.
JB
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Love this sauce, especially the way you can tell that it's done because it goes 'quiet' LOL. I have only used it as a topping though, so can someone be my brain today please?
I need to make macaroni cheese for 6 adults (decent portions not tiny). Does 500g pasta sound enough :-\ and will one batch of sauce do it or do I need more? I can't think off-hand how much sauce this recipe makes but I'm not feeling confident. And if I need more can I scale it up or will have to make separate batches?
I'm not cooking at home and the shops won't be open by the time I arrive so I need to make sure I'm prepared...
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I would say that the recipe for the sauce is for approximately 4 people, so you might need to make half as much again. A recommended serving per person for pasta is 75-100g dry weight, so 500g would give each person 83g, which may not be enough if you want large helpings.
JB
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That's helpful, thank you. I reckon the jug is big enough that I can scale up the quantities and just up the cooking time by a couple of minutes (useful to have a recipe which tells you when it's cooked).
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Must try this some time. Just commenting so I can find recipe easier when I want to try it.
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Daska, you should be OK, so long as you don't exceed the 2 litre mark.
Tasty, you won't want to make cheese sauce any other way after you have tried this ;D
JB
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I want to make this with the broccoli and cauliflower like maddy. Do you steam the cauliflower and broccoli and for how long? Do you then put it all in thevoven?
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Steaming times depend on how large you make the florets Tasty and cauli takes longer to cook than broccoli. Add boiling water to the bowl, about 600mls, place the cauli & broccoli into the varoma dish and cook on varoma temp for 10-15 minutes, speed 3. Check to see if it is cooked but still firm. Remove the broccoli when it is cooked and continue cooking the cauli. Place the broccoli into an ovenproof dish and add the cauli when it is cooked. Make the cheese sauce, pour it over the vegies, top with some grated cheese and fresh breadcrumbs and bake in 180oC oven until golden brown.
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i think off memory i have a lasagna dish that i put half broccoli florets on one side, and the other side with cauli florets (all raw) - and then poured the sauce over the lot and just bunged it in the oven until nicely browned as we like it. The cheese and breadcrumbs sounds like a nice touch too.
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sesame seeds make a good topping as well
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I made it and it turned out delicious and thick and I had enough to cover the whole dish!! (when i have tried it without a tmx in the past, i can't seem to get enough and generally it's a fail).
I will post a photo tomorrow as can't on ipad and hubby is using laptop.
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Just made this tonight for Macaroni Cheese with Bacon. Absolutely delish. :)
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I made this Christmas day and poured it over cauliflower and brocolli.... it was wonderful and everyone loved it. Thanks :)
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I made this Christmas day and poured it over cauliflower and brocolli.... it was wonderful and everyone loved it. Thanks :)
Same and my step mother saw how quick and easy it was that she now wants a TMX :D
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It was amazing! I made it with 200gms of cheese and corn flour and it worked a treat! Added veggies and left over ham from Christmas with macaroni ;D
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I make this all the time and I even double it and cook for 12 minutes and it turns out perfectly. It makes perfect cauliflower cheese and mac cheese and even I add it to tuna and put it on pasta and cook in the oven. Always is perfect.
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Thanks so much for making my lasagne so easy :). It's my first cheese sauce in the TM and I won't be trying any other recipes for this sauce anytime soon ;D
I made 2 batches - one as per recipe and the other using 45g cornflour as suggested by another person - I could hardly tell the difference however I think the cornflour one had the slight edge.
I have 3 lasagnes completed (now cooking) and it took me less than 1.5hrs in between feeding kids and putting them to bed - gotta love that!!!!!
Thanks!!!
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Not sure what I did wrong the first time I made it, but I found it a bit 'meh'...
Made it tonight for my lasagne, as I'd forgotten to pick up some cheese sauce satchels (I know, I know!!!), sooo much better then the packet one HAHA
edit - I did it maddys way, I think that is it, I can always taste flour, so the cornflour did the job, it was supurb!
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This is an awesome sauce!
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Just made this. Its really good. Can't stop eating it out. Of the TM!
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This is our standard cheese sauce now. We have it over cauliflower and broccoli each week with our roast dinner. I cover the vegetables and put in the oven to brown.
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Ditto Wonder, I just love this sauce except that I use cornflour, which slightly alters the texture ...
JB
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Freezes well, also.
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Thanks, chookie, that was going to be my next question ;D That is very good news indeed!
JB
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I make this sauce with prepared hot English mustard & sometimes half chicken stock half milk. Makes a different flavour which goes well with pasta bakes. Or sometimes all light milk with a little stock paste. For chicken pie I make it without the cheese & more stock than milk & a little white wine & fresh herbs. Probably use a bit more flour too...not very good at measuring. It's a classic recipe! thanks for formattiing it for the TM!
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Interesting you should mention that as I have made another recipe for cheese sauce which contained no milk at all - just stock, water and wine. I was a bit dubious to start with, but it did taste delicious ...
JB
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Without the dairy it's a veloute I guess...but never had it with cheese. I'm sure it woud work but hard to beat a good slurp of cream!
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The recipe is here (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=9725.0) (just ignore the bit about cauliflower) ...
JB
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We had this over broccoli and cauliflower and homemade chips last night. Delicious.
Has anyone added extra liquid to be able to cook the macaroni in the sauce (bit like tuna pasta in EDC)? I love this recipe and am thinking it would be great quick after sports meal for the kids, with some bacon and veggies.
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Has anyone added extra liquid to be able to cook the macaroni in the sauce
Have made macaroni cheese by making the sauce first then boiling the pasta, keeping the cheese sauce hot in the Varoma basket whilst the pasta is cooking, but have never tried cooking it all in one. If you try it, let us know how you get on :)
JB
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I have made this twice now and & could eat it with a spoon straight from the *: ;D YUMM!!!! Would make a great base for a chilli con queso dip also.
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I love this sauce and in regards to the pie making thread and the mention of scallop pies, this would make a mean scallop pie!
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Made this tonight for the first time - yum!
Definitely much much better than the EDC version but is it only that this version you add more cheese ? It just seems so much nicer but amazing that one little Tweek makes all the difference !
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You can never have too much cheese in a cheese sauce IMHO ;D
JB
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So glds you are all enjoying my sauce. ;D If you want more of my recipes try here http://cafedisarray.blogspot.com.au/ I am trying to gather my photos and thoughts from all kind of random places and put them in one spot
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I'm sure it will be much easier for you with them all in one place. I sometimes think a blog would be good, bit I don't know where I would find the time. Much better to read everyone else's. :)
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I make this all the time, I also double it and cook for 12 mins and it works perfectly!!
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Love this and freeze whats over and revive in Microwave.
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made this tonight to go over fish and it is AMAZING...
exactly as recipe described but cheese was blue cheese topped up to amount with tasty oh and added parsley from the garden after...
awesome... have just printed and put in my thermie recipe folder...
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I made a cheesy, vegie pasta bake using this sauce tonight and it was fantastic! Mum really loved it, which is good because it was quite a large pasta bake ;D
I steamed some broccoli and cauliflower and put it in a big casserole dish, then topped it with some cooked angel hair pasta and a tin of salmon which I had drained and flaked. I poured the cheese sauce over the top and mixed it around a bit, topped woth breadcrumbs and a light spray of olive oil, and then baked it for 25 minutes :)
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Great sauce thank you, will use this instead of EDC recipe from now on.
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I make this on a Sunday and my Son takes it to school for lunch. I add veggies and some diced bacon. His Teacher loves that it is something gluten free that he can have at lunch and she is more than happy to heat it up for him. I use corn flour and gluten free pasta and it really is so yum!
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Made this for the first time tonight. Had it with some spiral pasta, bacon, mushroom and spring onion. Really lovely although perhaps a little bit too mustardy for that application. Will have remainder with broccoli and cauliflower tomorrow.
I added smoked paprika rather than cayenne. Also used 200g of cheese, plain flour (had run out of cornflour) and light lactose free milk. Was very pleased with the final texture.
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I too love this cheese sauce but as I cook just for me I am wondering if I can freeze a portion too? I know that it is quick to make but it is simply not the same when making a single portion and just too much with this recipe.
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Hi DD, you are looking great!
I often freeze cheese sauce in small ziplock bags, it freezes beautifully.
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Welcome back DD!
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Great to see you again Dot. :-*
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Welcome back dot.
I freeze half of this mixture each time I make it as we only use the half quantity for most things. I freeze the second half in a container and then once defrosted just wisk with a hand wisk to get any lumps out, sometimes I find I need to add a little more milk after defrosting particularly if using in a pasta bake.
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I am a shameless lurker and NEVER post. I know this is an old thread but I just wanted to say I just made this sauce and it is delicious. So thanks. I had bits and pieces of cheese leftover so it was a mixture of cheddar, and several types of parmesan. Will definitely use the freezing tip, too. :)
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Well now you've reviewed a recipe perhaps you will get addicted to commenting and we might be lucky to see you again real soon thermojinx :D :D What else have you been making from the forum?
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Mainly sweet stuff Judy. I should make the leap to savoury more often!
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Indeed you should Thermojinx. Have you seen CP's list of favourite recipes (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=6470.0) - some good ones on there.
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Hi thermojinx. Tell us some of the things you have made and what you thought of them. We would love to hear more from you.
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I've slightly modified this recipe to make a bechamel for lasagne.
Use only 100g cheese
1/4 teaspoon of mustard (could eliminate completely)
No salt
Have done it a number of times now and had success. As with the original, it freezes really well. L
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I use this cheese sauce for everything, i sometimes reduce the cheese but normally use the full amount.
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Made pasta bake with bolognese sauce the other day. Thought I'd make a white sauce using the TMX instead of using my usual stovetop method. Stumbled upon this sauce instead, and it was so yummy!
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Looks good, BZB. I am always looking for an excuse to make this sauce.
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Thank you, Chookie 😄
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I made this last week to go over cauliflower & broccoli bake & agree it's a great sauce
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I made this today to use as the top layer on lasagne.
I copied Maddy's tweaks of using 200g of cheese (160g Vintage cheddar and 40g tasty) and 45g cornflour.
I started to cook on speed 4 as per recipe, but after a few seconds of it blitzing everything, I turned down to speed 3 and left the MC off. At the end of cooking time, I removed the bowl from the housing and let sit for 3-4 mins while I was getting the lasagne ready for the final layer. The sauce had thickened to a perfect smooth consistency and was easy to pour/spread over the top. I've put the rest in a freezer container for another time.
I totally agree with everyone's view that it tastes wonderful. This will be my go to one now too. :D
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Julie, glad you liked it. I make it exactly to recipe. Might try your tweets next time.
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I've never tried this. From the sound of it I need to.
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Cookie, you must try it. Nice on scalloped potatoes.
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Hello everyone and thank you Mokeyboyzmum. I enjoyed incorporating your special awesome cheese sauce to lasagne today. It had a great kick! Will make again, for sure. Great. Happy lockdown, everyone.