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Welcoming Center, Management and General Chat => Chit Chat => Topic started by: Meagan on February 15, 2011, 12:48:42 pm
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I have one of these electric yoghurt makers
http://www.easycook.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11&products_id=9&zenid=f712fb2d1613fca7eec50343de0ffc1c (http://www.easycook.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11&products_id=9&zenid=f712fb2d1613fca7eec50343de0ffc1c)
What I am wondering if I could buy a large glass lidded jar to sit inside it to use instead of the plastic one. Infact maybe I could buy two so I can rotate and have one in the fridge and one making.
Any ideas on where I could get something like this?
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Maybe somewhere like here Meagan ???
http://www.plasdene.com.au/ (http://www.plasdene.com.au/)
There is another one over in Canningvale as well, just trying to remember their name
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There is another one over in Canningvale as well, just trying to remember their name
Is it Silverlock Packaging in Catalano Rd Canning Vale that you are thinking off Faffa
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Yes I did think of those places but I think they have a minimum spend :(
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Megan, take the plastic container to the supermarket and match it with a glass container that has something in it that you can use. Doesn't matter of it has a lid as you San cover ot with lunch wrap or Glad wrap.
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Check the dimensions of your yogurt appliance and see how it compares to
I have the Yo-Life (http://www.yolifeyogurt.com/index.asp) and that comes with a 2 quart/liter glass container and 7 small containers (I don't use the small ones, I found another use for them) as well as two domes, one tall, one short.
I bought an extra large container for it ($3.95 but the tall dome will also allow the use of 3 regular quart/liter wide-mouth canning jars (for which I have the plastic lids). I use both Ball and Kerr as they are exactly the same size and shape (squarish - round jars do not fit as easily).
From time to time I want to make three smaller batches of 1 quart each - especially when one is heavy cream to get clotted cream, one is half & half or light cream for the sour cream result and the third is regular or low fat milk "plain" yogurt.
On a different note:
I know there are many recipes that incorporate fruit but for some reason I don't like it when it has incubated with the yogurt.
I would rather add the fruit or fruit puree to the finished yogurt, after it has been chilled.
This harks back to my long-ago early days of yogurt making when I added some very ripe peaches and when I opened the yogurt container after an overnight incubation, it smelled like the peaches had begun to ferment - there was a distinct aroma of alcohol. Don't need that.
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Kitchenware shops or specialty cooks shops often have glass lidded jars - they are more expensive than the Plasdene ones, but there is no minimum spend.
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I have a yoghurt making machine,that makes the the yoghurt in glass jars. It's is just so nice making yoghurt at home. My 3 boys love it so much. When we run out and have to use Supermarket alternatives in plastic pots, it just isn't the same. As for fruit, we mix it into the yoghurt. I also don't like the idea of the fruit/jam sitting in the bacterial mutational process :-)
Long live the noise of spoons tapping against the glass pots. It just is not the same with plastic.
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Great ideas everyone thanks ;D
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Hi to you all who use the yoghurt maker to make your yoghurt. Is it better than the yoghurt you can make from the EDC bk?
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Pp I use valeries recipe from here on the forum. I just do the initial heating to 90degrees, then wait till it is 40-45degrees ( I use a milk thermometer) then add yoghurt culture from cheese links and put it in the yoghurt maker. I do also make a batch in my mini thermoserver, if I am doing 2 lt. I do find the thermoserver batch goes a little watery/ stringy after a few days whereas the maker one doesn't so I always use the thermoserver batch first.
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Looked in several cooking hardware shops today, and the only glass container that would fit the electric yogurt maker was the glass insert from a plunger coffee maker. No lid.
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Thanks chookie, iwill continue the search :)
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megan, on valaries demo, she says she uses about 1 cup of the batch of yoghurt to make the next batch. What is the difference in using starter, and where would I find cheeselinks thanks
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here you go PP ;)
www.cheeselinks.com.au (http://www.cheeselinks.com.au)
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Thanks Faffa :)
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How is homemade yoghurt different to bought stuff? I mean, I can buy a locally made organic biodynamic youghurt that the kids love, and I hadn't thought it would be worth making my own - but this thread has got me interested ....... I can understand that homemade yoghurt would be better than the Ski/Nestle etc etc type brands which are full of artificial stuff and thickeners - but is it worth the effort if you can buy a really good organic natural yoghurt??
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Two answers in one here....
1. Container to fit in the easyyo - I have the easyyo and a kambrook yoghurt maker, (I bought the easyyo for my sister and then she didn't want it). I use the Easiyo plastic containers that are designed to go with the powdered mixes in my Kambrook yoghurt maker.....I don't know if they will fit in the Easyyo machine. I will try them tonight and let you know. I tend to use the Kambrook yoghurt maker the most because I have used it for about 15 years and it is habit.
2. I make yoghurt mainly for myself because I am the only one who likes plain yoghurt in our house and it is cheaper than buying it. Now that you can buy milk for $1 a litre, it is very cheap to make....if you don't mind buying cheap milk. I normally drain it for a couple of hours to make it thicker. I have (hopefully) a yoghurt drainer arriving from the US today that should make it easier to drain. I am currently using a jelly bag strainer and the bag is always getting lost in the washing because it is so small. The other reason, apart from cost, that I make my own yoghurt is that I know then how fresh it is.
Take care
Stacey
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Stacelee, I line a large strainer with a chux, and strain through this. Could use cheese cloth. The large Jalna containers fit into the Easyyo machines. Sometimes I fill several small flat glass containers and put these in the electric machine. I think they are Pyrex.
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SUCCESS ;D ;D ;D I found one of these http://thecookskitchen.com/browse_2562 the 1lt size which fits in my 'easy yogurt' maker perfectly :-* I bought two and will try them out next week when I need more yoghurt. I am excited about making it in jars now. I did find a place in Australia that sells the Yo life (linked in Andis post) which I probably would have bought if I didn't have this one already because you can do a larger quantity at one time.
I will let you know how it goes ;)
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Meagan, where did you find the YoLife that Andi menetioned?
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KJH this is it
http://raw-pleasure.com.au/Tribest-And-Green-Star-Products/Yolife-Yogurt-Maker
The only drawback is they don't sell the 64oz large jars as it is too expensive to ship them from the US but looking at it I think you could use any jar as long as it fits when the lid is closed :)
If you get it let me know how it goes ok?
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megan is there a difference in the yoghurt when using the yoghurt culture to using some yoghurt from the batch you have already made?
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KJH this is it
http://raw-pleasure.com.au/Tribest-And-Green-Star-Products/Yolife-Yogurt-Maker
The only drawback is they don't sell the 64oz large jars as it is too expensive to ship them from the US but looking at it I think you could use any jar as long as it fits when the lid is closed :)
If you get it let me know how it goes ok?
Three of these (http://redbacktrading.com.au/index1.html) 1 liter wide-mouth canning jars will fit in it if you get the squarish ones. I advise buying the plastic lids (http://www.amazon.com/Ball-Wide-Mouth-Plastic-Storage-Caps/dp/B000SSN3L2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298048664&sr=8-1) which I think are now available in Australia.
They are suitable for using the jars for freezer storage (leave sufficient head room) and have the advantage of not being affected by acids or by salty stuff that causes corrosion on the metal lids.
I took photos of the Yo-Life with three of the 1 quart/liter canning jars with the plastic lids.
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h129/Basenjibabe91/Kitchen%20Essentials/You-Life.jpg)
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h129/Basenjibabe91/Kitchen%20Essentials/Yo-Life1.jpg)
You can see how they fit perfectly. You can also use just one or two.
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Thanks for the pic andi :) my jars have metal lids do you think they will be ok?
Pp I only use the culture now as I often forget to put some yoghurt aside but I know andi does it for a few batches before using the culture again
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Thanks for the pic andi :) my jars have metal lids do you think they will be ok?
Pp I only use the culture now as I often forget to put some yoghurt aside but I know andi does it for a few batches before using the culture again
The metal lids are fine but it's better to keep the metal away from contact with the yogurt because it is acid.
An easy fix is to just use the lid ring with plastic wrap over the top of the jars and covering the threads. Before the plastic lids were available I used to use this whenever I had something that was high acid to store in the fridge.
You don't have to worry about canned stuff because the vacuum will create a seal and without oxygen the metal won't react but it will without the vacuum seal created during the canning process.
I've had metal lids start to corrode after only a couple of days in the fridge with tomato-based pasta sauces and I've sometimes noticed a metallic flavor in certain foods.
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Thanks for all the advice and info andie and meagan - I am sorely tempted to buy the Yolife maker, and the big jars that andie mentioned - but I am still not certain of the advantages of making my own yoghurt as opposed to buying an organic biodynamic one. Is it just the benefit of cost??
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The easiyo containers definately do not fit into the easyyo yoghurt maker. Another reason to make sure that I look after my kambrook one. The yoghurt drainer arrived yesterday, but I may have outsmarted myself there as a full 1 litre of yoghurt doesn't fit......only about 750ml. Never mind.....
Take care
Stacey
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Thanks for all the advice and info andie and meagan - I am sorely tempted to buy the Yolife maker, and the big jars that andie mentioned - but I am still not certain of the advantages of making my own yoghurt as opposed to buying an organic biodynamic one. Is it just the benefit of cost??
If you can buy organic biodynamic at a good price then go with that. It is a money saving thing for me and knowing what I am eating/feeding my family
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Uh... All the yogurt cultures sold by cheeselinks are "biodynamic" which is just a complicated way of saying they contain the active cultures that turn milk into yogurt.
It's a marketing ploy to get you to buy a particular product.
and it is easy to find organic milk. Every supermarket here carries at least two brands of organic. The Walmart in my area carries four brands. And I know they have it in Australia too.
Unless yogurt has been cooked and processed after it is incubated, all yogurt is "biodynamic" but some has other additives which add body (carrageenan) or gelatine, or flavorings, or preservatives can lessen the effectiveness of the living cultures.
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glad you found your pots meagan.. :)
over here we have yoghurt makers too but they come in various sizes but with individual and mostly glass pots and some just make yoghurt and others do flavoured desserts and soft white cheeses as well
i just bought one which does all three..yet to receive it but hope to have it in a week or so to try out not only yoghurt but cheeses and some flavoured creams as they call them here like the danone style that come in a whole lot of flavours so will have fun experimenting!! The good thing is this one comes with 12 glass pots ready for consumption (useful for doing various flavours at once i guess) and i can buy as many of the same pots as i like and do one lot of yoghurt, next a lot of cheese then a lot of dessert creams and so on... )..it makes 1.4L at once!
here is a photo...not sure of what is available in oz but ive noticed most of the aussies have a large tub type maker?? Anyway i look forward to receiving my 'multi delices'
:)
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There are various ways to keep your yogurt at the correct incubating temperature without going to the expense of a yogurt maker.
One of my neighbors who is strapped for cash (her husband is in the military and deployed to the middle-east and she has 5 children), make yogurt in a gallon "pickle" jar.
After heating and cooling the milk she puts it into the jar, wraps a clean bath towel around it and then a large heating pad, set on the lowest setting.
The heating pad is secured to the towel-wrapped jar with a couple of bungee cords and she drapes another heavy towel over the top.
This way she can check the yogurt by simply lifting off the towel and removing the lid. She can then leave it to continue incubating if needed.
She does this twice a week because she gives her children cold cereal mixed with honey-sweetened yogurt for breakfast as they like it better than regular milk. (And it does not spill as easily!)
Another friend, who lives up at Mammoth Mountain uses a 1-gallon Thermos that she pre-treats with very hot water before adding the heated and cooled milk. She says once heated, it will hold the heat nicely for at least 8 hours.
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Has anyone tried the new wave yoghurt maker?
http://newwavekaaus.shop033.com/p/8715951/yoghurt-maker.html (http://newwavekaaus.shop033.com/p/8715951/yoghurt-maker.html)
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Consumerate, I purchased the Aldi one for only $19. Unless you make a lot of yoghurt $69 seems expensive.
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Wonder, do you like the Aldi one? Do you use a yogurt strainer and if so, what brand. I am finally considering home made yogurt since we go through a kilo a week.
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To be honest courton, I've only used the yoghurt maker once to make coconut yoghurt and it was great. We aren't big yoghurt eaters and really only enjoy greek yoghurt. In the past I've made it in the thermoserver as per Faffa's instructions using a cheeselinks starter and these days mostly Liddells lactose free milk. I then strain through a jam strainer which I bought at Wheel and Barrow a while ago. I really need to make some more but just don't get around to it that often.
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Unless you make a lot of yoghurt $69 seems expensive.
It does, but kitchenware direct have it for $45 which didn't seem too bad. $19 would be great but Aldi is a long way from WA. Might ask a relo to grab me one if it becomes available again.
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Sorry i forget Aldi isn't all over Australia
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Thanks Wonder. When you make it in the Thermoserver with lactose free milk does it come out thick and not too tarty? We like thick greek style yogurt without the tartness.
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I always strain it for quite a few hours using one of these, once strained it gives a very thick greek style yoghurt. We find the flavour great.
https://www.wheelandbarrow.com.au/kitchenware/gadgets/jam-straining-kit (https://www.wheelandbarrow.com.au/kitchenware/gadgets/jam-straining-kit)
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Thanks Wonder. I am going to buy the jam strainer and give it a go!
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Just keep in mind you only end up with half the quantity of yoghurt. If I'm making bread I'll keep the whey but otherwise unfortunately it ends up down the drain.
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Good idea about the whey!
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We have been making our own yoghurt for quite a while now and the other day I relented and bought a 1kg tub of greek yoghurt as one of my sons will only eat this. Anyhow, it's started us off again now on Greek Yoghurt. I might just have to give this a go making it ourselves. Just a question though, where do you put it while it's straining ? I'm assuming in the fridge (well I hope so lol). We couldn't leave it sitting out straining ........... too hot and too many undesirable insects especially with kids leaving doors open all the time !
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Debbiebillg, sorry but most times I just leave it on the bench covered loosely with a piece of cling film (glad wrap). Only DD and I eat it plain but DS and DH think the tatziki made with the home made Greek yoghurt better than anything we can buy and it gets eaten in a flash.
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Ohh nooo ! Might still give it a go. Need to find a yoghurt strainer with a lid though anyway as the kids would more than likely knock it over otherwise ! Is the Tatziki recipe on the forum Wonder ? Sounds really nice !
Just went late night shopping with my eldest son and we bought some Greek yoghurt ! It's sooooooooo yummy ! We love the mango one. I'm guessing though if we pureed a tin of mangoes and mixed it with the homemade greek yoghurt, it might come close (I hope) !
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I use a cheese links culture for my yogurt and add 1/3 cup powdered milk per liter of milk plus 3 drops of calcium chloride and it turns out beautifully thick like Greek yogurt. I don't strain it usually but if I do I use a jelly bag on a stand to turn some in to cheese. A chux cloth in a strainer would do the same thing. I refrigerate mine whilst straining.
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Bonsai, I make my yoghurt exactly the same with a Green Living culture. I think though I'd like to try and make it without the milk powder and strain it instead. My eldest son doesn't like the yoghurt but loves bought Greek Yoghurt.
I think I'm going to order one of these as Kitchenware direct have free shipping this weekend.
http://www.kitchenwaredirect.com.au/Cuisipro-Greek-Yoghurt-Yoghurt-Cheese-Maker
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Just keep in mind you only end up with half the quantity of yoghurt. If I'm making bread I'll keep the whey but otherwise unfortunately it ends up down the drain.
wonder, freeze the whey
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Debbiebilig, is the free shipping offers only for members? I do not see it advertised on the site.
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I would buy that if it's free shipping, I'll have to have a look.
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I have that and it works really well. I've stopped making yoghurt though as my DH just won't eat it. He prefers the shop bought sweetened stuff.
I saw an email from Kitchenware Direct saying they had free shopping this weekend. You enter a code when checking out. I deleted the email though, but i might be to get it back if you need it.
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FREESHIPOCT13
Enter this at stage 3 of the checkout process and the discount will be applied at stage 5.
Well that's what their email says. Ends Sunday night.
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Thank you. KatieJ!
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Sorry, Courton only just back online now. Thanks Katiej for answering. I need to get this ordered too lol. Been out all day today and out all day again tomorrow.