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Title: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: maddy on October 07, 2013, 01:23:34 pm
I have tried many chocolate buttercream recipes, and haven't been happy with the majority of them.
They are either too gritty, too hard, dry & crusty or are impossible to pipe.
.....turns out the recipe was under my nose, and I made some changes.
Following the basics of the Thermomix creamy vanilla frosting recipe....I altered it by making a chocolate roux & using brown sugar.
It's silky smooth, easy to pipe, and it truly is the texture and taste of chocolate mousse....no one would believe it's actually buttercream  ;)

(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/nachothecat/b81401d930106a462615d4c3c997036c.jpg)

The Perfect Chocolate Buttercream

The chocolate Roux

30g plain flour
20g Dutch cocoa (Woolies home brand is my choice)
210g milk

Place flour, cocoa & milk into Jug, and blend for 5 seconds on speed 6.
Cook for 15 minutes at 80C, speed 4.
Pour into a bowl, cover with plastic wrap, pushing plastic down onto surface of mixture.
Cool completely before adding to the next step of the icing.

The Icing

150g light brown sugar
200g unsalted butter - room temp & cubed
40g Dutch cocoa
(The reserved chocolate roux)

In clean  & dry TM jug, add the brown sugar and mill for 30 seconds, speed 9.
Add the cubed butter & cocoa to the sugar, and mix 10 seconds on speed 7.  Scrape jug.
Insert Butterfly and aerate the butter mix for 1 minute, speed 3, MC off.
Scrape jug, and repeat mixing for 1 minute, speed 3.
Add the chocolate roux mixture to the jug, and whip for 1 minute,  speed 3, MC off...scrape jug & repeat 2 more times at 1 minute, speed 3, MC off.
Transfer to a bowl, Cover and refrigerate for 30 minutes, then Remove from fridge & ice away.


Members' comments

Do you refrigerate these?  Maddy responded - I leave this in a lidded cake cloche like the vanilla...I personally don't like any cake or icings refrigerated or frozen....I think it effects the taste & texture.
generally, 2-3 days see's the best of your cakes anyway....usually they're gone by then anyway.

Does it freeze well - maddy - I don't freeze any icing, as I don't like the results, but give it a try if you wish.

Thermesa - I've made this for plain cupcakes. Perhaps a bit extravagant/rich for a 2 year old's birthday but delightfully creamy.

Maddy - you could use raw sugar instead of brown & perhaps cut back a little on the cocoa in icing, it may make it a little less rich for you?
....I personally prefer the cocoa hit, as it doesn't taste like you have a mouthful of butter.

Katiej - Great recipe Maddy, although I don't think I did it justice. I made a mistake and put the chocolate roux in with the sugar and butter and not later when it should have gone in. It was very runny at first, but it firmed up in the 30 minutes chilling time.
It tastes delicious!

suzanne - yes this is perfect and very mousse like- the kids loved it, thanks maddy.

Jamberie - I made 100 mini cupcakes for a friend of a friend's wedding last night. Yes the buttercream is perfect! It seems much lighter than the creamy vanilla frosting, more like mousse. Thanks Maddy, it's a winner.

Hally - Maddy, I have made this a few times for cakes & cupcakes. Delicious, much nicer than butter icing. Thx.

sue purrb - I made this to fill butterfly cakes. It was really delicious. Thanks Maddy. 

INAID - I used this too for E's birthday cupcakes. It was delicious.

kezza - I made this to decorate ES dark chocolate cake and posted how great your buttercream was as well.  Just posting in here so those who have not tried it give it a go, as it is awesome.

cookie1 - I used this for the giant Tim Tam birthday cake. It is delicious. I have some left so it will go on the cupcakes being made tomorrow.

KimmyH - This really is the perfect chocolate buttercream. For something a little different I added 2 tablespoons  of malted milk powder at the start with the flour. Resulted in a decadent choc malt flavour. Teamed up well with I love bimby cake and a few decorations. Thanks again Maddy.





Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 07, 2013, 01:35:34 pm
What a star you are Maddy.This looks sensational  8)
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Post by: MEP on October 07, 2013, 01:43:50 pm
Agree with CC, this does look fantastic. Love the little butterfly.
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Post by: cookie1 on October 07, 2013, 02:31:46 pm
Maddy I'm sure we will all use this some time or other, thank you ..
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: judydawn on October 07, 2013, 02:39:01 pm
Thank you maddy, if anyone could do, it had to be you.  It certainly looks perfect.  Is that ES's chocolate cake recipe you've used?
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: astarra on October 07, 2013, 10:33:50 pm
So you finally cracked the perfect chocolate icing, Maddy?  ;)
Congratulations!  ;D

Now the next question....does it freeze well? (Thinking lunchboxes etc)
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: Wonder on October 07, 2013, 10:55:37 pm
Well done Maddy they look amazing.
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: jo_nz on October 08, 2013, 02:47:54 am
Looks perfect.  I use the vanilla buttercream recipe quite a bit, but think this will be a winner for DD's upcoming birthday cupcakes.  Thanks for the adjustments!!

And I just checked Countdown online and the homebrand cocoa is finally available here too.  ;D
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Post by: Itsnotartitsdinner on October 08, 2013, 10:57:53 am
Yum! Thankyou :)
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Post by: EmeraldSue on October 08, 2013, 11:54:50 am
Can't wait to try this.
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: Kimmyh on October 08, 2013, 12:19:05 pm
Maddy you are a star. It really does look like piped mousse. Thanks for sharing. Bet you are chuffed you finally nailed it 😉
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: MEP on October 08, 2013, 02:53:48 pm
I know you mentioned previously you keep your cupcakes with creamy vanilla frosting in an airtight container on teh bench Maddy. Do you do the same with this or does it need to be refrigerated? I'm sure I'll make this soon given DH and DS are both chocoholics.

Thanks for experimenting and sharing.
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Post by: fundj&e on October 08, 2013, 06:38:13 pm
It really does look perfect .well done  Maddy
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Post by: Emme on October 08, 2013, 10:21:02 pm
Thank you so much Maddy, looks perfect
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Post by: BeezeeBee on October 08, 2013, 11:32:51 pm
Looks gorgeous Maddy. Thanks for the recipe :)
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: Bedlam on October 09, 2013, 06:05:37 am
Ditto Maddy,Thank you
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: maddy on October 10, 2013, 08:34:08 am
Is that ES's chocolate cake recipe you've used?

You are quite the food detective Judy  ;D  Yes EmeralDSue's Quick mix dark chocolate cake (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=11212.msg196700#msg196700)....love it...it's my go to cake/cupcake recipe.

I know you mentioned previously you keep your cupcakes with creamy vanilla frosting in an airtight container on teh bench Maddy. Do you do the same with this or does it need to be refrigerated? I'm sure I'll make this soon given DH and DS are both chocoholics.

MEP, I leave this in a lidded cake cloche like the vanilla...I personally don't like any cake or icings refrigerated or frozen....I think it effects the taste & texture.
generally, 2-3 days see's the best of your cakes anyway....usually they're gone by then anyway.

Now the next question....does it freeze well? (Thinking lunchboxes etc)

Not sure Astarra....I don't freeze any icing, as I don't like the results, but give it a try if you wish.

Bet you are chuffed you finally nailed it 😉

well I was probably a little cocky calling it "perfect"....but I was excited after I made it, then posted it :P
Hopefully someone makes it soon & I can get some feedback....will be embarrassing if some one says "yuck"  LOL
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: judydawn on October 10, 2013, 08:35:42 am
If you say it's perfect then it is maddy.  It sure looks perfect to the rest of us.
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Post by: *suzanne* on October 10, 2013, 08:46:13 am
I'll try it on Saturday when I make some cupcakes for the in laws
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: cookie1 on October 11, 2013, 06:46:09 am
I want to make some cupcakes to give this a try too. Perhaps for car club on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: astarra on October 11, 2013, 08:46:18 am
I'll try it on Saturday when I make some cupcakes for the in laws

So...you are hoping Maddy's 'perfect' is right...?!  ;) ;D
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Post by: *suzanne* on October 11, 2013, 08:51:00 am
I know it'll be perfect astarra but just for maddys piece of mind I'll confirm it for her ;)
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: obbie on October 12, 2013, 04:46:37 am
Looks perfect Maddy :)
Title: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: Thermesa on October 29, 2013, 11:14:13 am
I've made this today for plain cupcakes. Perhaps abut extravagant/rich for a 2 year old's birthday but delightfully creamy.
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: maddy on October 31, 2013, 02:48:08 pm
Glad you tried it Thermesa  :) you could use raw sugar instead of brown & perhaps cut back a little on the cocoa in icing, it may make it a little less rich for you?
....I personally prefer the cocoa hit, as it doesn't taste like you have a mouthful of butter....I used it on bedlam's mudcake recipe

(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/nachothecat/123dabc361244efbb3ad2562edf3b4ba.jpg)
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: Katiej on November 26, 2013, 07:25:08 am
Great recipe Maddy, although I don't think I did it justice. I made a mistake and put the chocolate roux in with the sugar and butter and not later when it should have gone in. It was very runny at first, but it firmed up in the 30 minutes chilling time.

It tastes delicious!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/26/ga6apyvy.jpg)
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: cookie1 on November 26, 2013, 11:38:12 am
Katie that looks lovely. Clever girl.
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Post by: judydawn on November 26, 2013, 11:40:12 am
It does indeed Katie, so glossy.
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Post by: Frozzie on November 26, 2013, 12:12:08 pm
Your amazing maddy.. Love the vanilla so silky so looking forward to trying this one :)

Katie looks lovely.. Hope you sorted out the fishy problem x
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Post by: *suzanne* on November 26, 2013, 12:43:51 pm
I forgot to come back and say that yes this is perfect and very mousse like the kids loved it, thanks maddy :D
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Post by: sue_purrb on November 26, 2013, 01:03:34 pm
I'm looking forward to trying this one too.
I have made the variation on the vanilla cream (adding strawberry jam and a slurp of strawberry liqueur), and the texture was perfect.
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: maddy on November 28, 2013, 01:34:29 pm
Your cupcakes look terrific Katie  8)

Suzanne....you left me hanging Woman! LOL....glad you  liked it   :)
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Post by: Jamberie on November 28, 2013, 08:09:20 pm
I made 100 mini cupcakes for a friend of a friend's wedding last night. Yes the buttercream is perfect! It seems much lighter than the creamy vanilla frosting, more like mousse. Thanks Maddy, it's a winner :)
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: Halex on November 28, 2013, 08:59:29 pm
Maddy, I have made this a few times for cakes & cupcakes. Delicious, much nicer than butter icing.

Thx,

H :)
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Post by: *suzanne* on November 29, 2013, 02:13:41 pm
oops sorry maddy it really is a delicious icing and I just knew it would be perfect,  I was having trouble with tapatalk so couldn't post a photo
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Post by: maddy on December 01, 2013, 11:36:13 pm
I made 100 mini cupcakes for a friend of a friend's wedding last night.

Wow Jamberie....you are a good friend!  You must have a few trays

oops sorry maddy it really is a delicious icing and I just knew it would be perfect,  I was having trouble with tapatalk so couldn't post a photo

Your forgiven  :P  lol
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: maddy on December 18, 2013, 06:28:25 am
(http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt266/nachothecat/39366f54f8c0a742b6895c5082787b8b.jpg)

Sprinkled with chocolate coated crispies
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: arcadia on December 18, 2013, 08:11:31 am
They look lovely Maddy.  How do you get your cupcakes so even?
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Post by: cookie1 on December 18, 2013, 11:24:49 am
My mouth is watering Maddy. They look lovely and chocolatey.
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Post by: Cornish Cream on December 18, 2013, 11:46:38 am
Just lovely Maddy. 8)
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Post by: sue_purrb on January 30, 2014, 06:41:37 am
I made this on the weekend to fill butterfly cakes. It was really delicious. Thanks Maddy.  :)
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Post by: maddy on January 31, 2014, 12:16:43 am
Fantastic to hear Sue  :)
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Post by: Meggsy Moo on March 07, 2014, 09:02:05 pm
WOW Maddy they look great ...I think I might have to do some baking today  ;D
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Post by: Itsnotartitsdinner on March 09, 2014, 12:23:28 am
I used this too for E's birthday cupcakes. It was delicious.
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: kezza on April 21, 2014, 09:24:09 am
I made this to decorate ES dark chocolate cake and posted how great your buttercream was as well.  Just posting in here so those who have not tried it give it a go, as it is awesome.
Title: Re: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: cookie1 on April 25, 2014, 04:19:52 am
I used this for the giant Tim Tam birthday cake. It is delicious. I have some left so it will go on the cupcakes being made tomorrow.
Title: The perfect chocolate buttercream!
Post by: Kimmyh on June 14, 2014, 12:25:52 pm
This really is the perfect chocolate buttercream. For something a little different I added 2 tablespoons  of malted milk powder at the start with the flour. Resulted in a decadent choc malt flavour. Teamed up well with I love bimby cake and a few decorations. Thanks again Maddy.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/14/abasany2.jpg)
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Post by: cookie1 on June 15, 2014, 11:59:03 am
Gorgeous cake.
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Post by: jo_nz on November 13, 2014, 04:46:17 am
This frosting is so nice to make and use!
3 doz for the school gala.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/12/b1c22596978ffbf1bca902bf9f4153ea.jpg)

Plus another doz of misshapen ones that DD decorated
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/12/f58bf446f036c12d13d5e938b84d1c81.jpg)
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Post by: judydawn on November 13, 2014, 04:55:09 am
Lovely Jo and it was good to have some misshapen ones for DD to practice on.
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Post by: jo_nz on November 13, 2014, 05:27:09 am
Yes, and will all enjoy eating them in all their glory 😉
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Post by: Cornish Cream on November 13, 2014, 08:32:00 am
Really really lovely Jo.Great piping by the both of you ;) :-*
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Post by: Kimmyh on November 13, 2014, 12:10:52 pm
Lovely Jo.
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Post by: cookie1 on November 13, 2014, 12:31:24 pm
I think they all look lovely. One right now would be perfect.
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Post by: astarra on November 14, 2014, 03:22:34 am
So cute Jo.  8)
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Post by: obbie on November 21, 2014, 06:28:20 am
great Jo