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Thermomix Recipes for TM5 and TM31 => Non Food Recipes => Topic started by: JaneeZee on September 20, 2009, 04:54:17 am
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Well I finally ran out of washing powder & decided I really ought to make my own if I am going to recommend it to clients. I re-read this thread & wasn't excited about the ammonia smell even though I had bought all the ingredients because my laundry is enclosed in the centre of the house with no real ventilation. So I followed Shaylas link & decided to make one of the powdered laundry detergent given I had everything already to make that. Well, talk about easy. This is what I did:
2 cups soap (about 2 & 1/2 bars Velvet)
1 cup washing soda
1 cup borax.
I roughly cut up the soap & split it and the soda into 2 lots which I blitzed at speed 7 for 3-5 seconds each. Then threw everything back in together & blitzed again speed 7 for 8 seconds. It looks lovely & granulated - just like a store bought one!!! Popped it into an old icecream container for storage. Got a load on now - will report results.
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Thanks JZ - where did you source your borax?
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Safeway/Woolworths I think. It was pretty easy to find, Harpers is the brand. I bought it after reading that taking a small amount daily can help prevent osteoporosis. I had the washing soda already because I bought it to make the dog vomit after she ate a family sized bar of chocolate - worked a treat!!
Wash looks good - including grotty sports socks!!
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LOL - For others wanting to make their dogs vomit - only use about 1 tsp for average sized dog !! ;D ;D ;D
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oooh i love that idea!
loved the idea of the goo but didn't like the reality, such a pain to use lol we went through a batch in a few weeks (unlike most of you lol) so was dreading having to make it so often.
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Don't know how long this will last Karen. I used about 2 tbsp for the load I did which was what the original recipe suggested. You could probably make a lot more at a go. I just wanted to see what it was like first. Not having kids at home anymore means I only do about 3-4 loads a week.
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I had the washing soda already because I bought it to make the dog vomit after she ate a family sized bar of chocolate - worked a treat!!
I know some humans who ought to try this :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Not having kids at home anymore means I only do about 3-4 loads a week.
dream.... lol
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I had the washing soda already because I bought it to make the dog vomit after she ate a family sized bar of chocolate - worked a treat!!
I know some humans who ought to try this :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Let me reassure those of you that have read the day job thread that this is not one of the "processes" I employ!! ;D ;D ;D
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ROFLMAO ;D ;D
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So final report JaneeZee? How are the clothes and the smell? And the cost? I've never bought those ingredients, but surely it's cheaper.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
JZ, it would probably be very effective.
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Oooo I will have to try the powder after the goo runs out :)
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I am more than thrilled with the result today. Only did the one load but everything washed really well towels feel really nice. Went down the pub & bragged about it & booked a demo at my house for Thursday night for 3 strays who now want to see it!!!!
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OMG - soliciting on the beach and now pub-crawling to get clients :o :o Oh well - anything for a sale (to a point ;) )
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I'm not proud but at least I'm out there!!!!
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LOL - no point in sitting waiting for them to come to you ;D ;D
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JaneeZee, can you clarify if the pub dwellers want to see the TMX in action with food or just how you made the washing powder ??? ??? ???
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JD, I was sitting with 6 girls, 3 of who have seen the Thermomix & 3 who haven't . I mentioned I had made the laundry detergent "in the machine" & the 3 who have seen the machine took off telling the others how wonderful it is (even though they haven't got one "yet"). I brought out a brochure, they said they were interested in seeing it & I - spur of the moment - said "Well what are you doing Thursday evening - come to my place!" So they are expecting food not laundry delights. :)
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So there you go - a good suggestion to all you consultants out there. Go hang out at the pub ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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.... I brought out a brochure, they said they were interested in seeing it & I - spur of the moment - said "Well what are you doing Thursday evening - come to my place!" ...
:o :o :o
LOL - Was that Merial training that helped you have the necessaries on hand ??? ;)
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JaneeZee, after reading your posts, I thought I'd try the powder too and it seems pretty good! I found Lectric Soda crystals in Coles, Borax (Hovex brand) in Bunnings and used the Velvet soap. Made two lots and put in decor tub. Have washed 3 loads with it today and prob only need half to one scoop per load. Seems it will be pretty economical and less fiddly to make than the foam.
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Thanks Ali. I was wondering where to get Borax from. :)
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wow that is a serious container of washing powder Ali :) LOL
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Thanks for putting in that extra effort ali...........I recommend the powder!
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Thanks alioop - was thinking that Bunnings should have it in the cleaning section - great - another excuse to go to Bunnings ;D
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If you don't find it with cleaning chemicals, try the aisle near the paint desk that has other chemicals. Not strippers, but other things. That's where I found my caustic soda (for regular bar soap) after 3 aisles and 2 visits. :P
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Hey that's what men do - wander around looking, looking, looking - but NEVER ask. They are actually really good on the service desk ;) ;)
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Actually... I asked the guy in the cleaning aisle and we went on the walk together ;D And he couldn't even find it that time!!
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He should have asked the ladies at the service desk ;D ;D ;D
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Actually... I asked the guy in the cleaning aisle and we went on the walk together ;D And he couldn't even find it that time!!
He should have asked the ladies at the service desk ;D ;D ;D
Yep see, he couldn't find it with you Rowyfo cause he was MALE!! Should always ask the LADIES on the service desk lol :o :o ;) ;)
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wow that is a serious container of washing powder Ali :) LOL
LOL it may look like it Meagan ;) but it's not one of those big decor ones with handles - It's a smaller one (I think about 2 ltrs). I actually grabbed a 3 pack of these from Bunnings when I got the Borax. Although.... the amount I have to wash in this house, the big one might be an idea ;D ;D
You know when you head to that place that you are going to get your weeks worth of exercise walking around trying to find the thing you want - and come back with a handful of things you didn't know you needed. ;D.
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Hah yeah - I can walk to Bunnings, but I can't walk home again without, say, a mule or some Sherpas... :D
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Hah yeah - I can walk to Bunnings, but I can't walk home again without, say, a mule or some Sherpas... :D
Just steal one of their trolleys like everyone else. :o ;) ;) ;D
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Am on to my third batch, and I think so far this is just as good as commercial washing powder. There was heaps of borax, and washing soda left over from the last lot. When I ran out of Velvet soap, i tried the Coles brand pure soap. (It looks and smells like
Velvet soap but is half the price). Towels are soft and fluffy, and everything seems to be washing beautifully. I think I may never buy commercial washing detergent again, as it is so quick, unbelievably economical and satisfying to produce. Thank you ;D
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This may have already been asked. Has anyone used it in a front loader and if so how much please?
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using it in my front loader now Cookie....umm a small scoop lol. Have to put a load on a bit later so will perhaps find another way to measure it to give you an idea :)
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As many of you know, my DH is a clown & this even gets the grease paint off his costumes. It's B^#$y brilliant!!!
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This sounds like something I'm definitely going to try. Does anyone know how whites get on with it? ie does it remove 'ring around the collar' on white shirts, and do the whites stay white, or gradually turn grey? That has always been my problem with homemade laundry detergents in the past. I'm just wondering whether I should avoid this with whites and just use it with my darks and colours, or whether this recipe overcomes the problem??
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From what I know the washing soda should keep everything bright including the whites
found this
In laundry, washing soda accomplishes several things. The high alkalinity of washing soda helps it act as a solvent to remove a range of stains, and unlike bleach, washing soda does not usually stain. It is also used in detergent mixtures to treat hard water; the washing soda binds to the minerals which make water hard, allowing detergent to foam properly so that clothing will come out clean, without any residue. Sodium carbonate is also used by some textile artists, since it helps dyes adhere to fabric, resulting in deeper penetration and a longer lasting color
on here http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-washing-soda.htm (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-washing-soda.htm)
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Can anyone tell me how the powder goes using cold water. We use underground water which is quite hard. I seem to have trouble getting stains out using cold water but mother in law seems to have no trouble by using warm (hot).
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I might have to give this a go. I stopped using the goo because my clothes started to look dull after a few weeks of using it, but it sounds like this shouldn't happen with the powder. :)
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I am almost out of goo :) I wanted to know, has anyone added anything to this such as frangrance and how did that go? I suppose I could add my grated, fragrant soap... Lord knows I am getting heaps of that!!
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I wouldn't waste good soap on washing clothes. You could always tuck it in amongst your clothes in the drawer to make them smell nice. I personally like the idea of using the pure soap in the washing anyway, as I don't think that it has the laurasulphates/nasties (?) in it - I could be wrong there tho.
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Can anyone tell me how the powder goes using cold water. We use underground water which is quite hard. I seem to have trouble getting stains out using cold water but mother in law seems to have no trouble by using warm (hot).
Tc - I have used the powder in cold and warm water and it seems to work well in both - I think the washing soda/lectric soda acts to soften "hard" water (can't remember where I read this, maybe on the packet?- yes it was, I just went and checked - it also mentions it's a good grease remover and keeps colours bright ;D).
Anyway - the ingredients are relatively inexpensive and it makes a fair bit, so worth giving it a go.
Rowyfo - I think I'll try dropping a few drops of essential oil in the next batch when blitzing to add more fragrance.
I'm a fan of this and will definitely keep using it ;D.
Ali
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I bought the ingredients today so hope to be making this tomorrow.
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Ditto for me cookie! Except I am posting today... so I bought it last night and will be making it soon :)
I made the soap myself... so I know there are no nasties in it, and I have heaps of ugly cut bits, so it wouldn't be a waste at all. :)
I'll see how I go :D
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Also, also... did anybody weigh the soap, how much would it weigh? Is 2 cups when it's grated, or powdered, or... well you get the idea :D
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I just used 21/2 bars of velvet
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I ended up using 200g of mixed soap... some pure soap, some leftover unscented soap I made, and some citrus scented soap I made. Washed towels with it today... seemed to go pretty well. I will see how they feel when they are folded. :)
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All towels are nice and soft :) I don't normally use fabric softener on them and they feel a lot different today.
I also washed my microfibre cloths... I hope I didn't wreck those, as they recommend no fabric softener.
(I use a front loader and 30oC water)
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Rowyfo, how much did you use in your front loader please? I've already killed one front loader and am terrified I will kill another. :'(
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Cookie, I use about one heaped tablespoon to 11/2 heaped tablespoons depending on the load in my front loader. I think it is pretty safe for the front loaders as it doesn't appear to suds up like normal detergent. Much the same as the goo doesn't. Must be something to do with the velvet soap I think.
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Has anyone worked out the cost of all the ingredients for the powder and how many washes you would get from one batch please? The goo is really cheap but I suspect the powder is going to be more expensive.
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I eyeballed my powder, I suppose it would be about the same volume as a ping pong (table tennis) ball.
Costs were:
Borax - 3.49/500g (used about 125g or 25%) - 87 cents
Soda - 2.99/1kg (used about 200g or 20%) - 60 cents
Soap: mine was handmade... Coles laundry soap is 62 cents a bar = 1.55 for 2.5 bars
= 3.02 per batch of powder, about 4 cups full. Might be anywhere from 16 to 25 washes? 12 cents to 19 cents a wash.
Hopefully someone already figured out the goo, because I don't have the receipts or patience to look ingredients up :P
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Thank you both. :-* :-*
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I wondered about the cost too Judy. I finally found some borax and it cost me $4.50 for 500g. I also couldn't get homebrand soap from my local Woolworths (and wasn't going to Coles just to get it) so I bought the velvet brand which is quite expensive. I'm looking forward to trying the powder though as the goo isn't working well with my boys clothes and I'm sick of scrubbing and rewashing.
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Thanks Rowyfo, I did keep a record of the goo costs but I think I threw it out. :P :P I'm running low on goo at the moment and to get somewhere where I can source the gear needed for the powder is a bit out of my way and will mean a special trip but I would like to try it to compare it with the goo.
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For the record - Coles had the washing soda but not Borax, Woolworths had both. I didn't look at soap. I was lucky enough to be shopping in a centre where they were about 50m apart. :)
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Well I have just made my second batch - 7 weeks after the first. Like I said we only do about 4 loads a week - although doing more recently as it is busy season for DH & with me working full time - so I am happy with that!
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I am almost out of goo :) I wanted to know, has anyone added anything to this such as fragrance and how did that go? I suppose I could add my grated, fragrant soap... Lord knows I am getting heaps of that!!
Was wondering this too - was thinking of adding Eucalyptus oil as that is the ingredient that my current washing powder has in it and I'm currently buying at $13 for 2kg - This oil is excellent on stains. ;) Also is velvet soap the same as sunlight soap?? ???
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I'm fairly sure Velvet and Sunlight are much the same soap.
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Just read on the Natural Instinct brand of washing powder that other than the Eucalyptus oil it has nettle, horsetail, chamomile,rosehip,burdock and lavender oils in it. ;)
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I made my first two batches of this today and am so happy with it already. I washed some of my boys "farm clothes" without soaking or scrubbing them first as a test and the powder did a great job in cleaning them. The slight scent of the soap was a very nice change after the goo. I just used 2 bars of velvet in each batch and that way I got two batches from the one box. The washing powder recipe on the borax label used a lot less pure soap than this recipe and said to add more washing soda and borax for an extra boost rather than more soap. Each batch made 750g of powder, which will go along way using 1-2 tablespoons per load.
Thanks for a fantastic recipe Janee!
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This is on my list of things to make, thanks for posting :)
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It only takes a couple of minutes, and is very good. I am going to try just using the 2 bars of soap next time. I use the Coles pure soap because it looks and smells just like Velvet - only cheaper.
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It's 4.30 am and I've been awake for two hours :-\. Just can't sleep....so much to do! I'm desperately wanting to make this as I'm down to my last two scoops of Eco brand washing powder. But, I daren't grind soap in my TMX at this hour of the morning!
I'm going to add lemongrass and tea tree essential oils to my powder. I've bought Velvet soap, but next time I'm planning to make my own soap. I may even use sheep tallow if I can be bothered rendering and sieving it! How's that for home made!
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Very domesticated MJ.
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I made the soap powder and added Tea Tree oil (about 1 Tablespoon) and the T.M machine glugged at the extra oil. Next time I will leave it out. I use only 1 Tbsp. per load in the front loader. It seems to work well however it is not all that cheap to make. I will need to do the sums.
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If you can stand the smell of ammonia Chookie, the washing machine goo recipe is cheap to make. I still use that one at the moment. If you haven't seen that thread it is here:-
http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=969.0 (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=969.0)
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Have just made this. Added about 3 tbsp of essential oils just to give it a nicer smell. Mixed will with minimal clumping.
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I've been making this soap powder for a few years now and have been very happy with it ;D. When I make up a batch I actually store it in old cryovac bags ( previously used) in 1 week of washing quantities, for camping I put in enough powder for 3 washes. I then use my cryovac machine, cryovac/seal the packets and hey presto no matter what the weather the soap is always fresh, soft and doesn't spill anywhere. Particularly useful when traveling outback, or in humid weather. ;D
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Brilliant !!! :-* :-* :-*
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What a brilliant idea for travelling with soap powder. Thanks. It can then be packed anywhere and everywhere.
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Put together a batch today
320 grams washing soda
170 grams borax
260 grams sunlight bar soap
Got a load of stuff in the wash right now - can't wait to see how it cleans.
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Hope all went well - didn't blow the machine up :o :o :o
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It went well. Clothes appear to be clean, smell good and feel as soft as would be expected. I suspect I won't be found buying the expensive Persil detergent for my front loading Miele again.
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Ta - looks like yo ticked over to a Jr Member - not sure what the different levels are but you have 2 stars - woohoo
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Must hit that when you get 50 posts. Makes me feel young again being Junior!
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This works extremely well for me - make up 2 x batches to keep you going (see note below):
1 x Velvet (or pure) soap, roughly chopped
1/2 x Sard (or stain removing) soap, roughly chopped
200g Borax
315g Washing Soda
Blitz soap for approx 5 seconds on Speed 7.
Blitz all ingredients together on Speed 7 for approx 10-20 seconds until it is evenly combined.
Use 2 x heaped tablespoons per wash.
Note: do not double mix as the weight places too much stress on the blades, and it will wear them down (learnt from experience). Just make as many batches as you wish.
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CP63 do you have a front loader or top loader please?
I found some Sard powder in the cupboard and have been putting some of that in each of my loads with the powder. I'm very pleased with that. I just made a fresh lot yesterday, but will give yours a try next time. It's basically the same. Thanks.
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Cookie its a top loader. We used to have a front loader, but we have way too much washing and the kids just used to shove so much in that it had a hard time washing the clothese properly. If you have a front loader I would start off with a very small amount because you wouldn't want it to be too sudsy - what do you think?
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I use about 1 1/2 tablespoons of the washing powder and then add sard powder. Will give it a try as soon as I finish this lot.
We had to buy a front loader when we built this house. We had the laundry made larger, but then the day we shifted in I found that I couldn't close the back door with the washing machine there. We had got rid of the big glass sliding doors in the laundry and changed them for a normal door. It was only a few mm out. So....................off to buy a front loader! I am quite happy with it.
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I haven't got around to making my own laundry soap yet! :-)) Way too much else to do...
I love this laundry powder and use nothing else. You only need a small amount of essential or fragrant oil, so don't overdo it and glug it all up.
Has anyone found a really good uncoloured unscented soap to use? Velvet is yellow and everything else is scented.
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Has anyone found a really good uncoloured unscented soap to use? Velvet is yellow and everything else is scented.
Meagan, how about Lux pure soap flakes (in a box in the laundry isle of supermarket)? Might be a bit more expensive than the bars but from memory are unscented and uncoloured. :)
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Yes the Lux flakes work ;D - I am having trouble getting borax as my local Woolies have stopped stocking it :( :( :(
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Be careful using Lux flakes in your mix all the time. Is there still a warning on the Lux flakes box and a caution to only use it every second or third wash. It isn't good for washing machines apparently - I think it clogs them?? :)
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You are right there Chelsea. When I told a friend of mine about the goo I make (her husband was a washing machine repairman), she told me pure soap clogs the machines but I figured the cloudy ammonia addition would push it through and keep it clean as would the vinegar I use instead of fabric softener. Have had no trouble in the 10 months that I have been using this mixture - in fact my Hoover is 15 years old and has never given me a problem. Now that I've said that, it will probably break down next week :-)) :-))
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faffa try Bunnings, as they normally stock it. Our local Woollies has still got it.
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Re: borax
I swear my local Woolies didn't have it a few weeks ago, because I was looking for it to make some silly putty with the kids (from PVA glue), and I could not find it in the supermarket, the chemist or Bunnings. Just happened to stop at a Foodland and found some. THen what do you know....went to Woolies again yesterday and they had Borax on the shelf!
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I keep checking Woolies and it's gone - not even a tag on the shelf :( there are two others close by so will have to try them next week as I am almost due to make another batch :)
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I keep checking Woolies and it's gone - not even a tag on the shelf :( there are two others close by so will have to try them next week as I am almost due to make another batch :)
I've been through the same process and it took 2 months before I found Borax on the shelves again.... it was a new brand and in a different coloured container... green and the brand was Bare Essentials made in Australia. I have found that I need to grab washing soda when I see it after making my last batch because when there is Borax on the shelf there is no washing soda and when there is washing soda there is no Borax. :P So stock when see!!! :) :)
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Luckily, I haven't had trouble getting either Borax or Washing Soda from my Woolies. I'm probably the only one who buys it!! I have noticed the new brand of Borax.
With Lux flakes, I guess it is pure soap, it's just been 'flaked'. I guess I'll have to use that until I get around to making unscented uncoloured soap!
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Thanks girls, I have no problems getting the soda and the grocery manager didn't really have a clue what borax was let alone where I might find it so will have a look again and look for the new container and see if it brings me any joy!! :)
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im sure your all aware but me being me i just have to let you know that a number of websites i found when trying to source where to buy washing soda stated in ALL of them that the stuff is quite dangerous and a strong irritant, should never be handled without gloves, lets off toxic fumes when mixed with water and is a general hazard, also dangerious breathing in the dust which is apparently easy to do with the crystal form but says it is environmentally friendly.have to say it kind of put me off making this but i did come across a bunch of different recipes using also washing soda but some others using bicarb soda (not as strong as the washing soda but does the same kind of job???)
http://tipnut.com/10-homemade-laundry-soap-detergent-recipes/
does anyone have any problems with this and it just concerns me as its a powder so what do you do put glvoes everytime you want to wash the clothes and dont breath in?? Also how does it effect the thermomix and using food in it after?? I just thought that homemade products are supposed to be safer and better for you??
i spend my days around my young children so if im stating something totally stupid (ongoing baby brain...several years running now) just feel free to put me straight :)
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Frozzie, I never add the borax in my TMX. I always put it into an icecream container to do that. I keep the container specially for that. So far I've never noticed any fumes or even smell really. But I do have a very open area.
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Thanks for bumping this topic frozzie, it reminded me I was going to do batches to put into my Christmas hampers this year. I have just made a double batch. I'm going to give practical things and not choccies etc this year as everyone seems to get so many of them over the festive period. Basically just going to show people how diversified the TMX is.
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This works extremely well for me, and is a nice double size mixture:
2 x Velvet (or pure) soap, roughly chopped
1 x Sard (or stain removing) soap, roughly chopped
400g Borax
630g Washing Soda
Blitz soap for approx 5 seconds on Speed 7.
Blitz all ingredients together on Speed 7 for approx 10-20 seconds until it is evenly combined.
Use 2 x heaped tablespoons per wash.
this makes a nice big container full that last our family about a month. I will never use commercial powder again, as not only is it a superior product but it is very economical. IMO (and I'm no expert either) i wouldn't think there would be a huge risk using the borax in the TM as the bowl/blades are made from surgical steel so there wouldn't be any contamination. Whilst its is whizzing around, just be careful not to inhale close to machine. When it is mixed in the water, the risk would be fairly low as the lid is on, and only a very small quantity is being used.
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This is the same recipe that I use and find it very good.
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I use sard in mine too and think it works very well.
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Just wondered if anyone has tried nything with soap nuts? I have just got a trial batch from soapinanutshell.com.au, and have been using them whole, but apparently you can grind them to use as washing powder, and also use them to make liquid soap, shampoo, cleaning products etc.
I have found no difference between these and my usual powder (the ecostore front loader one) so far, they seem to be more economical as well.
Might be one to play with - maternity leave in a few weeks so will let you know if I get a chance!
deb
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I haven't read up on washing soda but Borax is very safe. In fact I was taking a tiny bit orally when I remembered to - good for your bone health - but since they changed the packaging & I don't know whether it's just Boron (which it used to be) I'm not quite as confident. Must look into that now I have my life back.............................
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nice to see you back posting to JaneeZee ;) ;)
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Thanks Kathryn :)
Had a bit of a hiccup with passwords so I couldn't get on with my work computer & didn't have time at home.........MM sorted me out however & now watch out.................... ;)
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Yes, it's great to see you back JZ - some of our 'oldies' do seem to go missing these days.
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Thanks JD - it's good to be back............
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In answer to Frozzie's concerns about washing soda, you need to be careful about the sites you go to when checking the toxicity of ingredients. Many of them spread scare-mongering nonsense while some are very informative.
Washing soda is simply sodium carbonate and it's highly alkaline, which is why you should wear gloves when you use it to clean things. It's much the same as sodium bicarbonate, just that it's processed via a different method using salt and limestone.
Any dust from any ingredient should be avoided as much as possible. I imagine it's not too good for your lungs to be sucking in the dust from flour any more than the dust from washing soda.
I've recently gone back to using Aware as I ran out of Borax and have not noticed that our clothes are any cleaner. In fact, it's a nuisance because it doesn't dissolve in the little dispenser of my front loader and I have to flush it through each time.
I'll be going back to making my own washing powder once more. I have a great soap that I made with green Argiletz clay in it. It's not fragranced, so I can add my own fragrance.
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Our Washing Machine Powder passed the ultimate test this weekend. Beetroot salad on a whlte linen tablecloth that I forgot was there & left to entrench itself for 2 days!! All gone. Very happy ;D ;D ;D
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Thats great - beetroot stain is hard test to get out.
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HI all
Any ideas if the water from the machine can be used in the garden with this powder? Would it not be too salty?
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If the washing powder contains borax, I wouldn't be using it on your garden. Borax is used to kill cockroaches, (anthing that kills those buggers,is pretty toxic) so if it gets into our water ways it wouldn't be a good thing.
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finally cracked and got the ingredients all ready to go..so now just have to make it up and try it..will let you know how it goes on my kids never ending stains!
:)
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If the washing powder contains borax, I wouldn't be using it on your garden. Borax is used to kill cockroaches, (anthing that kills those buggers,is pretty toxic) so if it gets into our water ways it wouldn't be a good thing.
The amount of borax that would be in the washing water is minimal. It's sulphates that you need to avoid in your garden.
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Have been using this washing powder for about 4 months now and as we are not getting any rain use the water often on the lawn. In fact it is the only water we use on the lawn, no problems, lush green. I also make it for many of my friends, they not having problems either.
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Thanks everyone for your replies - I knew the sulphates were a problem but wasn't sure about others.
Also do you need to double wash the TM after making this mix or does the next recipe come out tasting soapy! LOL
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Jabiru, I do tend to give it 2 washes for some reason. I don't put the borax into my TMX bowl anymore, I place the ground up ingredients into a large container then mix the borax in by hand wearing gloves.
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I make it all in the TMX, borax and all and do a double rinse. No problems yet!
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I just finished my first batch and made another double batch. I used velvet pure soap and it smells lovely. Last double batch lasted over 2 1/2 months! So cheap!
Cleans our clothes just fine. I add napisan if I need an extra boost.
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and best of all the towels are soft and fluffy ;)
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For every 500g of bicarbonate of soda I use one cup of borax, 50ml eucalyptus essential oil and 30ml lavender essential oil. No soap. This cleans beautifully, about 2tbsp per front loader wash. Add a little more eucalyptus for stain removal and some white vinegar to keep whites white (and as a softener).
Just bought I'd share :)
Morte
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Thanks Morte, with the essential oils being fairly expensive how much does a batch of your mixture cost to make?
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Keep in mind that I use the water soluble lavender available from the supermarket, and eucalyptus bought in bulk from Auroma ( http://www.auroma.com.au/cpa/htm/index.asp ). I don't buy the 10ml bottles from the chemist/heal food shop/etc (not for cleaning anyway).
I pay about $7 for 100ml lavender, and last time paid about $30-40 for a kg of eucalyptus. Maybe $1-2 a kg for bicarb. I've honestly never broken down the cost before. per wash I couldn't say, I've never worked out how many a batch gets me :) less than $4 a batch (500g)? If you leave out the lavender, even cheaper!
I'm more interested in keeping harmful chemicals from my home and family an saving every last penny :)
I hope that ramble helps!
Morte
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Have just finished making a double batch - using lavender and eucalyptus oil. Eventhough I used lavender oil (50ml) from the health food and I had a 300ml eucalyptus oil in cupboard. The end result was indeed cheaper than the large container radiant which I usually purchase. Also a fan of white vinegar instead of softener, despite me being the softener queen but still use the concentrated sachets as car fresheners - last so much longer than any commercial car freshener - but I only use Cuddly Aroma therapy varieties (there are 2 choices), I found the generic brand packaging went quite brittle being in the car in the hot sun. Oops off the washing powder topic slightly!!!!!!! I hope can be as happy with the results of washing powder as all on here. Thanks to all for their contributions. :) :) :)
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Thanks Morte. I might give that one a go when I have finished my last lot. :)
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I now use it and its great .. cheap and does the job ..Thanks Morte .. BTW I got the water soluble lavender and eucalyptus from coles !!!
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I love this washing machine powder but DH informed me the other day he didn't like the smell :-)). I will add some water soluble eucalyptus oil and he will never know. ;D
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are the oils pure oils or a mix with other ingredients to make them solulable?? I ask as my search over here leads me mainly to bath or sauna oils of lavender and eucalyptus but they have other elements in them??
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I just went and checked the oils and they are not pure as it says they are multi purpose liquid, :) water soluble. It has no other info on the label .. As I only wash in cold water i am happy to use this. If I was to use a pure oil I would use a lot less and wash in warm or hot water ....
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Frozzie I used pure lavender oil (as that was in my cupboard) and the eucalyptus oils was the age old favoutie pure 'double d' eucalyptus oil from Woolworths. :) :) I am so pleased with this powder, I still have radiant left in the container but it has such a chemical smell to it, after using the thermie variety. :) :)
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i use the powder and have done so for a while now but since seeing an another version with the oils it interested me as no soap (i have to order it from the uk or oz and it costs a fortune to send..for soap)..so wanted to know about the oils as i had only come across solulable oils for saunas etc but would prefer to use pure oils so thanks robyn :) :)
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Frozzie I forgot to mention that I use cold water with no problem - cheers! :) :)
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thanks robyn and obviously no oil marks etc then and the machine isnt greasy after?? i imagine because the amount is minimum that its fine??? 50 and 30ml in a batch plus the oils would absorb into the borax and soda..another thing i noticed morte posted bicarb soda and not washing soda?? have you stuck with the washing soda or used the bicarb soda..??
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if anyone uses my recipe mix (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=1843.msg30043), please note that I have edited it today down to a half batch. Only do a half mix of the original recipe I posted back then, as the weight has worn my blades and require replacement. I am going to make 2 separate batches because I like the amount that it makes.
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cp i have been making up your recipe mix but in double lol...so i have a big container full and dont have to do it that often...im washing every day with two kids who are constantly dirty lol..my DD didnt even make it out the door this morning before she had breakfast all over her top lol..sometimes i think i need to put them in those head to toe paint suits during meal times just to keep them clean and put them in old raggy clothes for them to play outside lol...i have constantly a basket full of washed but still stained clothes..no washing powder has ever got their stains fully out but your recipe works as good as any purchased one so its all good..(i have no idea what they do to incrust the stains so much lol) I should really change them straight away but if i did that i would be changing them several times a day and increasing a whole lot my washing load lol.. i am going to try the oil one just to see how it goes..bummer about the blades..maybe if you crushed ice regularly..are they just blunt or actually used the metal?? if so wow over what period did they get used and how many batches are you making up and do you only chop up the soap or put the whole lot in?? yes i know questions questions lol :)
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Frozzie I have not had an issue with oil marks due I think to low concentration as you mentioned. Thanks CP - I have only made 2 batches as I gave a lot of that to friends and family to try (all who are raving about the quality of your recipe so thank you) I am due to replenish the cupboard so purchased washing soda today for the next batch - will definitely take your advice and do half quantity. Cheers :)
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Does anyone use this brand of Eucalyptus oil which is 100% pure? It does say on the bottle that you can use 2 capfuls in the wash for woollens or work clothes. I have a 200ml and a 500ml bottle so would like to be able to use it and try Morte's recipe next time I need washing powder.
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thanks robyn..im nearly out of my last batch so will give mortes version a go with pure oils :)
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Just made myself some washing powder. I'm so excited you'd think I'd discovered the meaning of life.
Have never been so enthusiastic to do washing before :)
Thanks so much for this recipe. Love, love, love this forum!!
Karen
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Karen you sound like me the first time I made this (only about a month ago) - handed a sample in a snap lock bag to everybody who entered our front door, as well as taking it to the beautician who purchased a TMX sight unseen due to my ravings each time I went in. :D :D :D
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Ha ha! Sometimes I wish the forum had a "like" button, like facebook.
Just made myself some washing powder. I'm so excited you'd think I'd discovered the meaning of life.
I was pretty excited about my first washing powder too! :-)) :-)) :-))
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seems to be the general concensus? ..love it myself but wanted to try out the oils ie mortes version but havent got around to buying the oils so had to go and buy a commercial washing product!..like everything i hope to be back into a normal routine..thx included once i get everything in order this week! (lots of house stuff going on..gardeing work, painting rooms etc etc)..
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Just made my first 2 batches of CP63 recipe and the first load of washing is on, glad I read through all these post, just did a costing and one batch costs me $5.15 bought everything at my local IGA. DH was getting excited when I said we might have to go to bunnings :D but he missed out on going to his favorite shop. :o
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lol jeninwa...can imagine DH getting all excited then the disappointed face..gave me a laugh so thx :) ps CP63s recipe is great ive been using it for the past few months but over here the ingredients are bought online as most of them arent available in shops..!
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After trying JD's successful http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=5891.0cream cleaner (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=5891.0cream cleaner) for my house I want to try the washing powder, anyone from UK have made this and if yes what soap have you used? thank you
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passionflower you can get sunlight soap in the UK as I ordered mine from there...but i guess any laundry soap would be fine?? maybe the UK members can reply..
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Thank you Kim never heard of it. I am in Paris in November for a Convention how far are you from it? I could bring you some.
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we are 2 and a half hour drive south of Paris..and about an hour by TGV.. what dates will you be in paris? :)
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17-20 November and we will be on the Disney Park Convnetion Centre. There are lots of French counterparts coming so maybe I could arrange to meet with someone closer to you. My good friend lives near Alsace.
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thanks monica ill PM you :)
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Ok so i have not made this yet as I am now intrigued by Morte's version. Not sure what to do? I like nice smells so Morte's appeal more because of this. LOL
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My cleaning lady commented on how good this washing powder is and could I make her some if she bought the ingredients. I just made a double batch and put some aside as a surprise for her. Sometimes she brings the washing in or puts some out for me, so I was really pleased that she felt it was good enough to comment on.
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lelly do you make the standard version or the one with oils?? i wanted to make this with oils but they only come in tiny bottles and are quite expensive so no point and the original version i need to get the soap overseas as the soap here just isnt the same so in the end gave up as it was costing me alot more than just buying some!
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Frozzie, I just do the standard version. The clothes smell . . . well, clean ! and that's good enough for me. :)
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1 x Velvet (or pure) soap, roughly chopped
1/2 x Sard (or stain removing) soap, roughly chopped
200g Borax
315g Washing Soda
Blitz soap for approx 5 seconds on Speed 7.
Blitz all ingredients together on Speed 7 for approx 10-20 seconds until it is evenly combined.
Use 2 x heaped tablespoons per wash.
Am going to make this today. Got all the ingredients at Coles and found that the Velvet soap was actually cheaper than the coles brand one. My only question is in Cream Puff's Recipe above, do you use one bar of Velvet soap (my box contains 4 bars) or 1 box (4 bars). Sorry, I know I am a bit thick sometimes - Blame it on the marching of time. (Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it!) Cheers. Nola.
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Nola, it is 1 block of soap not 1 box.
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i have not been able to find the Borax and Washing Soda in coles which isle nola ?
Please don’t ask, why not ask somebody , you will not like my answer
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I ran out of powder last week and we had to resort to some bought liquid. Not a cheap brand either. After a couple of days, my DH who does the washing, commented that I must hurry up and make some more. This bought stuff just isn't as good. For someone who was skeptical to start with, this sure is a change.
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Boy that was quick!! If I remember rightly, the Borax was in the same isle as the bleach, ammonia etc. and the lectric soda was in with the washing powders. But they hide really well, the Borax was on the bottom shelf and I didn't see it until the 4th time of scouring the aisle. (Blind as well as forgetful :-)))
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Hi everyone. APologies if this has already been discussed as I haven't read eleven pages, but is the Thermomixed washing powder safe to us in front-loading machines? High-suds detergents aren't good for front-loaders.
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A small scoop in a front loader faffa says earlier Cecilia.
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Thanks a lot, JD.
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It's been fine in mine.
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I use a 1/2 to a 1/4 of a scoop in my front loader and that's it. No softeners. The clothes look and feel great.
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Glad to hear it, Sue. I have used two little giftpacks in my frontloader with amazingly positive results but I was a bit worried about the longterm once I made up a full batch. As long as there's no over-foaming, there will be o turning back!
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I've been making a washing machine powder in my front loader for almost a year. The recipe was from a book called 'Saving Mum' by Amy Pleydon & Tiana Johannis. Turns out it's the same recipe as the TM one! The book says to use one tablespoon per load which I have been with good results and no machine dramas.
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Have used this washing powder for about six batches now in my front loader and it gives the clothes a beautiful smell and feel. Occasionally, I will put a hot cycle through along with an occasional "normal" dynamo type. I do this just in case there is a build up of soap which could end up in a blockage.
Unfortunately this morning....sure enough....my machine had a blockage and in trying to unblock it we discovered soft soapy gunk. I poured boiling water into the dispenser and I think it cleared a little bit and then put a hot cycle through with dynamo. Hopefully my machine is not ruined. I think I might have to do a few more hot cycles to make sure there is no build up in future.
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Do you use vinegar instead of a fabric conditioner wombat. I'm sure this helps keep inner workings clean.
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The recipe was from a book called 'Saving Mum' by Amy Pleydon & Tiana Johannis. Turns out it's the same recipe as the TM one!
Off memory, mine was off the side of a borax container.
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I have been using this recipe for 2 years now with no probs. Occasionally we put a hot load through and in our front loader I only use 1 dessertspoon full. I do a load nearly every day,(we are very dirty people).
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We're a bit like you Chookie. DH gets filthy and often has 2 changes of clothes a day. I've been using it for ages in a front loader and have no problems. I don't use very much though. Probably between a dessertspoon and a tablespoon.
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yeah i do use vinegar as a conditioner but I think my prob might be that i add two large spoonfuls of washing powder. We have had heaps of rain here in Aussie- qld- brissie so there are towels to wash and sheets aplenty so i think I will do a few loads with hot water to hopefully give it a clear-out and then start again with only one spoonful of powder.
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I made creampuffs recipe yesterday and am not my 4th load so far everything looks good and clean, though it didn't wash out the pumpkin soup one of the kids spilled on their clothes, but I imagine pumpkin soup may be something that stains. I have just added a cup of bicarb soda as I read that this is very good in the powder mix too, and would help whiten and brighten and soften. So I can't wait to see how the next load of washing turns out!
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Decat, I still spray stains with a commercial pre-wash stain remover - I don't trust any washing powder to remove some stains.
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Can only get this, not borax http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_sesquicarbonate
It is called borax substitute.
Anyone else had this trouble?
or used something else in recipe?
Have now discovered the EU banned borax.
Found other comments about this detergent without the borax being no good???? !!!!!! http://growingthingsandmakingthings.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/laundry-gloop-isnt-very-good.html
Bit of a bummer when have bought all the other ingredients. Will try it, and may have to send to Australia for supplies. Crazy world isn't it.
Anyone coming over this way soon?
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They have borax (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mistral-R3204B1-Borax-Powder-Decahydrate/dp/B003DU5NTW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341082476&sr=8-1) on Amazon DJ :)
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Ordered a kilo.... Thanks, but am puzzled as to how I can buy it online if banned?
or is it not borax?
I won't have a clue!
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Ordered a kilo.... Thanks, but am puzzled as to how I can buy it online if banned?
or is it not borax?
I won't have a clue!
Don't know either DJ :-\
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Just asked DH if he can test the powders somehow to see if the same?
He always says he is the scientist of the family so let's see what he can do!!
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I don't think anyone has asked this, but is it colourfast or does the soda fade colours?
Thanks
Ps DH says that borax and borax substitute (sodium sesquicarbonate) emit different coloured flames and he will test my borax when it comes to see if it is real! Sand I think I may have found another supplier if that one is not ok
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I've been using the original recipe since I posted it & haven't found there to be any fading of colours. My husband is actually a clown (Yes that's his "job") so bright colours are his "business attire" & we don't suffer any leeching of colour.
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Big LOL Janezee and thanks a lot.
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Ok borax tested like borax according to DH with the help of Professor Google finished the batch tonight. Will use it tomorrow for first time.
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Tried today put one and half T in top loader. No suds, but we have VERY hard water.
Not sure if I need to add more?
Does everyone use vinegar with this? If so how much please? Is white distilled vinegar ok?
Sorry lots of Q's!!!!
Edited 22 July. Now using 2 T (uk) per load.
Washing well, using miracle spray as stain remover.
Still wondering about vinegar?
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Janeezee Great job a clown, does he work at a circus..
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I just fill the container with home brand white vinegar where the fabric softener goes DJ. Have been using it for donkey's years, ever since an Enjo lady told us about it and my washing machine is 18 years old and I have never had to call a serviceman out to it. I have broken off the water level dial so every load is a large one but that is my only problem. I will replace it with a front loader when the time comes due to the water saving feature.
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JD you can contact the maker and order a water level spare knob spare part.
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Yes, guess I could CP but 99% of my washing is done on a full load and deep down I think I really do want a new one ;)
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Hi! I have read through the first few pages and the last few pages but haven't read through the middle 8 or 9 pages...so i'm so sorry if this has already been asked (which I'm sure it has!)
I was just wondering if you can make this washing powder in your main TM bowl, or do you need to have a second bowl to do this sort of stuff in? (I only have the one bowl)
Thanks so much! This recipe would save me a fortune!
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BW i havent made this, but i am sure you would not need a second bowl just to make this
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No just in main bowl but need to rinse it 2 Or 3 times thats all. I only mixed the soap p in it and for the rest put it directly in a container nd mixed well by hand with a glove on..
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ok, thanks guys, I'll have to buy these ingredients. :)
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I finally got around to making this which I've been meaning to do since I don't know when. I used the 1/2 bar of sard (was it fundj that suggested that?). I have to say I'm really, really impressed. No, you don't get a pretty smell like you would with commercial powders (which tends to disappear once it's been on the line anyway!) but you do get AMAZINGLY clean clothes. I have seen stains come out of my little boys t-shirt that I never thought possible. I can honestly say I will never buy commercial powders again now I've used this. Even if it doesn't work out cheaper, the fact that it gets my clothes cleaner means it's a winner for me.
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I am going to make this in the Christmas holidays, if everyone still happy making theirs? Will make CP's version with the sard :)
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Yvette just keep one of your scoops from your last commercial stuff, and use it as a measure. This powder seems to last longer and is definitely cheaper and better.
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This is all I have used for over a year now, I put the sard soap in as well.
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I use this all the time now, and am really happy with it. I use the sard version as well, and am really happy with the results. I use vinegar instead of fabric softener too.
I also save up any scraps of scented bath soap that are too small to use in the shower, and add them to the the soap mix when blending it to use them up.
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Thanks ladies.
Karen I don't use soap in the shower just body wash as it doesn't leave the scum like soap, easier shower cleaning
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Thanks Karen that's a good idea, I throw out so many bits and pieces. I bought all the ingredients recently to make another batch but Christmas hampers have got in the way at the moment.
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We're like you Yvette. We have charcoal grey flecked tiles as our bathroom floor and the shower doesn't get 'scummy' by using liquid soap.
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This non food recipe loos great and I cant wait to try it.
Can I just ask a question if anyone has any input into skin allergies/sensitive skin etc.
Myself and my daughter who suffers asthma and eczema have extremely dry skin. For years we haven't used soap to wash our bodies, wash hair, or wash clothes. We always use pH balanced products and soap is a big no no in our house. My vocation is also in healthcare and particularly the skin care of elderly people with leg ulcers and I educate nurses and clients on omitting soap and using ph balanced products to improve their skin. Basically all soaps have a pH of between 9 and 11 on the alkaline/acidity spectrum and the normal acid mantle on our skin is between 3.5 and 5. Soaps strips of the protective acid mantle for 30 minutes in a normal healthy young person without skin problems. Longer for older people and you can imagine the onslaught on skin in people with eczema.
Anyway, long story short - does anyone with sensitive skin or dermatitis/eczema etc etc have any experience using this recipe. I'm loathed to purchase soap and bring it into our house but desperate to make a recipe like this (but not keen to exacerbate our skin conditions as it takes ages then to re-wash everything in our house and start using more steroids etc to solve a problem we have under control now).
??? ???
Many thanks in anticpation
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Curry Diva, I love this recipe but in your case I wouldn't make it. It is not worth the risk.
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CD I have just bought the ingredients this morning for another batch of this, it's all I have used for well over a year now, my DG's suffer from eczema and allergies from Cat Hair, but they don't live at home anymore. So can't help,out with that, what do you use now , are the ingredients listed? Maybe someone can come up with a home made recipe for you. Ingredients cost me $12.65 and will last me about 6 months I only put a little in. Vinegar is a good rinse aid this would get rid of traces of soap hopefully. I'm probably not very helpful after all .
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Thanks Achookwoman
Thanks AussieBrenda
I use a Neways product and rinse thoroughly. I thought of substituting lux flakes as an alternative to velvet but they aren't suitable for my front loader.
I actually think I might trial it and try the vinegar rinse with extra rinsing as I usually do.
Will post my results in the original thread if anyone else has sensitive skin issues.
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Isn't Borax poisonous?
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Yes it is. Most of us stir it through and don't put it into our *:
Welcome to the forum.
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Thanks :)
I would worry about it being a poison and having it go through my clothes even if I don't put it in the TM?
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TMinthebay, at least if you put it in yourself you know what is in there when you buy things you really don't know what is in there numbers and scientific names?
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Does anyone know if you can use this on MCNs (modern cloth nappies)???
Thank you.
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No, but I use it on modern cloth undies and haven't got a rash ;D
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I wouldn't recommend it for mcns. But saying that if you use normal washing powder presently it wouldn't be any different. :)
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Has anyone used this http://simonesthermomixessentials.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/nikkis-homemade-laundry-powder/ (http://simonesthermomixessentials.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/nikkis-homemade-laundry-powder/) recipe?
I am making it specifically for baby clothes wash, and I'm wondering if the Borax is the be all and end all or if this is just as good?
Anyone with some experience, I'd love to hear from you.
And yes, this is my first post and I'm hoping I've done this right. ;D
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That's fine. Would you like to go to Introductions and tell us a little about your thermomix story?
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GA, I wouldn't put Borax in the wash for baby clothes. I used to make wool wash with Lux Flakes , metho and Eucalyptus oil. Must make some more. Could grind up pure soap in the TMX and add the other ingredients.
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Have just looked up the recipe.
4 cup lux flakes or 2 or 3 bars of pure soap ground in TMX
4 cups boiling water
1 cup of Mentholated spirits
2 tablespoons of eucalyptus oil
Dissolve soap in water, add rest of ingredients.
To use, dissolve a handful of mix in water then add clothes.
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Thanks Chookie. I like the look of that recipe. I hand wash quite a few of DD's clothes and use Martha Gardner's Wool Mix.
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So you would call that recipe a wool mix Chookie. I think we should give it a thread of it's own don't you Cookie?
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So you would call that recipe a wool mix Chookie. I think we should give it a thread of it's own don't you Cookie?
yes please!
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Definitely Judy. Just done, my first big shift using the iPad!
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Thanks cookie, glad I left it for you so that you could play with your iPad.
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It can be a very time consuming item. I seem to read less since I have had it. But I wouldn't trade it for anything.
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Thanks Cookie for shifting it. It really does need a spot of its own. It is very similar to Martha's wool mix and lasts for ages.
I have been meaning to post it for ages, but just didn't get around to it.
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Has anyone used this http://simonesthermomixessentials.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/nikkis-homemade-laundry-powder/ (http://simonesthermomixessentials.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/nikkis-homemade-laundry-powder/) recipe?
I am making it specifically for baby clothes wash, and I'm wondering if the Borax is the be all and end all or if this is just as good?
Anyone with some experience, I'd love to hear from you.
And yes, this is my first post and I'm hoping I've done this right. ;D
I use this recipe all the time and it's great. I did change the recipe slightly recently and used 2 1/2 bars of soap and 1/2 bar of sard. I saw this idea on the web somewhere and out of interest made the change. For a cold wash for wool or other delicates, I mix the powder with 1/2 cup of boiling water and then tip it in as I don't think it would dissolve in cold water wash. Works fine this way.