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Title: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on June 30, 2015, 09:49:55 am
Classic Bread
Ingredients
500g Bakers' flour
310g water
100g sour dough starter you can use starter directly from the fridge for this
1 teaspoon yeast
2 teaspoons salt
Preparation
Place water and yeast into bowl. 2minutes 30 seconds, speed 1, 37 degrees.
Add SD starter, flour, and salt. Take care not to get the salt on the SD starter.
Knead for 4 minutes.
Remove from bowl and place in an oiled bowl and let rise for about 2 hours.
Knock down and put into bread tin, leave to rise until doubled.
Bake at 220 degrees for about 30 minutes.  I use fan forced at 200 degrees.
Photo


This recipe is my version of one in The Larousse book of Bread.


Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on June 30, 2015, 10:20:44 am
Looks good cookie, how did it taste?
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: Cornish Cream on June 30, 2015, 11:59:02 am
Very nice Cookie.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on July 01, 2015, 12:26:41 am
Looks good Cookie. A quick one to make using SD starter.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: kezza on July 01, 2015, 12:45:40 am
Great looking loaf Cookie
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on July 06, 2015, 07:04:58 am
Made 2 lots of this bread today.  Cookie, looks like a keeper. Thanks.
It is a recipe that fits a different time slot so good if you have to go to the shops after kneading. 2 hours rising.
Cookie, I changed the process a bit. I added everything with warm water to the bowl and kneaded on 37 degrees.also the SD starter wasn't fully activated. I also used an egg wash.
I can't wait to cut it.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on July 06, 2015, 07:09:01 am
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/28d2bbba0202a1d5d3ae2fc5235355f8.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on July 06, 2015, 12:08:57 pm
Yum yum. Chookie 
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on July 07, 2015, 01:01:17 am
Cut this loaf for breakfast toast today.  I REALLY like this loaf. Although it looks like a light loaf, it isn't.but it isn't heavy either.  It has a real chewy character. It is not open texture like SD but has a fairly fine crumb. If you have a SD starter, give this loaf a go. Thanks again Cookie.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on July 07, 2015, 01:02:12 am
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/06/abdeea2504d1e6f382dc62d15d5feff2.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on July 07, 2015, 01:07:57 am
Looks like I could have let it rise for another 15 minutes. The edges are more compressed than the Center.  This is because the heat in the oven set the edges while the Center was still rising.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on July 07, 2015, 03:13:54 am
I've learned something new today, thanks Chookie.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on July 08, 2015, 09:07:37 am
I have another loaf from this book rising at the moment.  It is having troubles as it is freezing here today. I've put it on the oven with bopoiling water to help it along.
This loaf has another name but is the same ingredients with 50g of the flour being replaced by rye flour.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on July 08, 2015, 10:08:02 pm
Cookie, will be interested to see how this new loaf turns out.
The last SD loaf that CC made Is a perfect example of how a cut SD should look. Perfect timing.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on July 09, 2015, 01:30:13 am
I didn't cook this loaf until evening as it took a long time to rise. No photo I'm afraid as D H had it cut and in the freezer before I got up. It looks to be pretty good though.  I used 4g of my fresh yeast to make this one and 100g starter. I'll do another one of these and add some spelt and seeds.
Title: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on September 22, 2015, 12:44:08 pm
I made this again today. I added a heap of seeds towards the end of kneading.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on September 22, 2015, 01:18:20 pm
Great loaf cookie.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 22, 2015, 07:02:02 pm
Good looking bread Cookie 8)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on September 23, 2015, 01:57:55 am
Thanks. The family have decided they like this for everyday now, so the SD starter will be getting refreshed several times a week.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on September 23, 2015, 06:45:34 am
What sized tin did you use cookie?
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on September 23, 2015, 08:21:35 am
I'll measure it and let you know Judy. I do all my everyday breads in this tin.  It is perfect for Chookie's No Fuss recipe as a loaf and this one too.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on September 23, 2015, 08:31:34 am
Thanks cookie, it's almost ready to go into the tin for it's second rise.
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Post by: judydawn on September 23, 2015, 12:23:44 pm
I ended up using my biggest tin, it worked a treat.  It was 2.45 when I decided to make this loaf so to help the rising process I put it on the sunny bedroom window ledge for the 2 hrs, forgot to knock it down before putting the dough into the bread tin and placed it in a cold oven with a baking dish of boiling water for 40 mins for the second rise. 

It's a tasty loaf cookie and has such a lovely crunchy crust.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 23, 2015, 07:59:09 pm
A great loaf of bread Judy 8)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on September 24, 2015, 06:10:41 am
It looks fantastic Judy. I just remembered that you had asked for the size of the tin I use. Do you still need it?

The bread freezes well too.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on September 24, 2015, 06:19:49 am
No thanks cookie, my biggest tin was the right choice.  It toasts wells too.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on September 25, 2015, 01:47:32 am
DH has just mentioned that we need more bread! He has forgotten that I need to give the starter a boot up before I can make the bread. At least it is warmer now and it will rise well this afternoon after I boot up the starter this morning.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: troupie on September 25, 2015, 01:27:46 pm
This loaf looks great Cookie and Chookie; I must make some more sour dough starter as I let mine die a while back when I couldn't attend it. Chookie do I understand correctly (from your post earlier on) that not letting the dough rise enough can make the sides cave in? Sometimes this happens and I wonder why.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: Katiej on November 14, 2015, 09:32:49 am
I made this today, using wholemeal bread flour. I added a little more water because of the change of flour.

It made a lovely loaf which I've sliced and placed in the freezer. It sliced really well and I can just tell it will make lovely toast. Great recipe Cookie.

I'm really liking my TMX bread knife with the slicing guide. It's really helping me slice my bread neatly. I love it.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: spersephone on November 14, 2015, 11:02:19 am
I want one but they sold out really fast. I really struggle to cut bread, which stops me making it so often.
Title: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on January 04, 2016, 02:45:31 am
I love making this bread in the hot weather. I take the SD starter out of the fridge when I get up. Feed it. It's all bubbly and ready to use mid or late morning. I make the bread, let it rise and it's usually cooked by late afternoon. The hot weather does have some advantages.  ;D
This is the latest loaf.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on January 04, 2016, 05:38:37 am
You have that recipe down pat cookie.  This hot weather has to be good for something but why is it that I only want to make bread when it's cold LOL. 
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: Cornish Cream on January 04, 2016, 07:35:04 am
A great loaf Cookie.. 8)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on January 10, 2016, 08:48:22 pm
Very nice Cookie.
Yes it is lovely making SD in the hot weather but not the cooking bit.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on February 15, 2016, 07:33:12 am
I've just  made another loaf of this and this time I used the starter directly from the fridge. It worked beautifully. I will adjust the recipe.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: thermilover on March 10, 2016, 05:04:54 am
Making my second SD loaf, this time thought of trying Cookie's recipe, fingers crossed, have put it in the oven for the first proofing :)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on March 10, 2016, 07:47:57 am
I have one nearly ready to out in the oven at the moment.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on March 10, 2016, 11:27:11 am
I am definitely going to make this.
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Post by: thermilover on March 10, 2016, 09:25:04 pm
I mixed in sesame, sunflower seeds and some pepitas while kneading and ended up with this wonderful loaf, Thanks Cookie :) I even used the bread cutter aid so not so embarassing slices this time ;)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: mab19 on March 10, 2016, 10:38:08 pm
Lovely looking loaf thermilover.
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Post by: judydawn on March 10, 2016, 11:16:35 pm
You're going great guns thermilover and I love how that gadget enables you to cut even slices.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on March 11, 2016, 12:32:23 am
Fantastic Thermilover, I'm thrilled for you. I always put seeds in mine, depending on what I have. I often put 70/80g of rye or spelt flour too. ( included as part of the 500g).
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: Cornish Cream on March 11, 2016, 10:03:15 am
A superb loaf thermilover 8)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on March 21, 2016, 01:02:14 am
When I made this yesterday I found I had to go out for a few hours mid rise. After the first rise, I knocked it down and put it in the bread tin, covered it and then refrigerated it. When I came home several hours later I took it out of the fridge and left it to rise. When it had risen enough I baked it and it is lovely, as usual.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on March 21, 2016, 08:04:44 pm
Cookie, that is great.  Love it when the Bread can be made to fit our timetable. This certainly is a lovely loaf.
Thermilover, lovely loaf. Nice slices.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: thermilover on March 25, 2016, 06:18:42 am
Thanks everyone  :)
Title: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on April 18, 2016, 08:38:58 am
I made a batch of this on Saturday.  I ran out of time to cook it so decided to leave it until Sunday. But Sunday was very busy too so it wasn't baked until this morning. I had kept it in the fridge while it was waiting.
The texture is a little bit all over the place and we had a couple of big air bubbles form while it was returning to room temperature, but the flavour is so nice. Not quite a SD but still very nice. It was in the fridge for about 36-38 hours.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: Cornish Cream on April 18, 2016, 08:48:22 am
Looks a good loaf Cookie and would be devoured in this house ;)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on April 18, 2016, 09:54:40 am
I love how you can neglect it and still end up with a useable loaf cookie.  Swiss cheese has holes in it, you could call this one a Swiss loaf.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on April 18, 2016, 12:21:07 pm
Not a bad idea Judy. Swiss Classic Bread.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on April 18, 2016, 09:35:39 pm
Cookie, this is a very interesting loaf. When air bubbles develop on the top, I wonder if this is because the dough at the top is in a warmer environment. The part in the tin stays cooler and therefore doesn't rise as much.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on April 19, 2016, 02:19:24 am
Chookie thank you. I was hoping you would have some ideas. I don't think we let this return to fully room temperature. DH was keen to get it in the oven and see how it turned out. I will do the same next time and try to leave it longer before I cook it.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: mab19 on April 19, 2016, 03:43:05 am
An interesting looking loaf Cookie.  It would still taste nice, holes don't affect the flavour :D :D
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Post by: achookwoman on April 20, 2016, 12:17:48 am
An interesting looking loaf Cookie.  It would still taste nice, holes don't affect the flavour :D :D
Love the holes, butter sinks into them.
Cookie, I wonder if floating the loaf on warm water while waiting to come back to room temp, would help.
Last time I made your Classic loaf, the room was cold so I sat the loaf in the tin on the open oven door. I had been baking so warm air was coming out. It was very successful. Love the challenges that baking bread throws at us.
Nice that we can share our knowledge here.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on April 20, 2016, 01:46:04 am
Thanks Chookie, I'll try that too.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: mab19 on November 24, 2016, 08:37:29 am
I made a loaf of this today, it always turns out nicely.  Much, much better than that awful store bought bread we had to buy while on holidays.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on November 24, 2016, 11:29:05 am
I'm glad you enjoyed it Margaret. Store bought bread seems to taste like poly styrene to us now. When we are away DD even makes her own bread.
Title: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on February 18, 2017, 11:55:06 am
I decided to make this bread today. I fed up the starter last night and by this morning it was ready to go.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: Cornish Cream on February 18, 2017, 09:23:41 pm
Lovely loaf Cookie.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on February 19, 2017, 11:36:11 am
DH and DD love it as it's quite soft and airy. I stick to the SD as it's supposed to be better for me.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: mab19 on January 09, 2018, 09:22:48 am
I made this again today.  I came in from outside and found DS cutting the crust off before the loaf was even cool :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on January 09, 2018, 09:52:53 am
One of my mob Margaret LOL.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on January 10, 2018, 07:12:49 am
I love it. DD and DH prefer this bread, so I make it all the time for them. I add 50g Spelt flour, 50g oatbran in place of bakers' flour. Then I add a MC of mixed seeds. It is so easy and tasty. I'm glad your DS likes it Margaret.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on January 11, 2018, 08:10:28 pm
My New Year resolution is to make the recipe. Thanks Cookie.
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on September 26, 2018, 08:38:37 am
I made this loaf today, first loaf in ages. I had forgotten I’d even made it before until I read the posts.  Very nice, I took it out of the oven then went out for 4 hours, have had 3 slices since I came home.
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Post by: Cuilidh on September 26, 2018, 08:51:12 pm
Looks good, Judy
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Post by: cookie1 on September 27, 2018, 02:26:28 am
Yum Judy.
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Post by: Cornish Cream on September 27, 2018, 08:07:05 pm
Lovely loaf Judy. 8)
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Post by: judydawn on September 28, 2018, 01:36:27 am
Thanks girls, I was determined to have a success so I was up earlier than usual to make sure it had plenty of time to rise. I put it in the bathroom which receives the morning sun then I turned the overhead heater on. I don’t even do that for myself!
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: cookie1 on September 28, 2018, 05:01:22 am
Spoiling the bread Judy.  ;D ;D
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Post by: achookwoman on October 09, 2018, 04:25:10 am
Thanks girls, I was determined to have a success so I was up earlier than usual to make sure it had plenty of time to rise. I put it in the bathroom which receives the morning sun then I turned the overhead heater on. I don’t even do that for myself!
The things we do for our bread :o
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on October 09, 2018, 09:53:05 am
Yes it was a bit extravagant, I had it on for an hour.  I might try the large slow cooker for raising my bread when the weather is cold, has anyone done that - would low be enough heat?
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: achookwoman on October 09, 2018, 09:24:16 pm
Judy,I would set it as low as possible.  Might try water in bottom and put dough on a rack in a container.
Bed with electric blanket might be less expensive.
Years ago, like 40, I used an electric frypan with wire cake rack over it. 4 bottles, one at each corner and small table cloth over the lot. 
Title: Re: Classic Bread (uses some SD starter)
Post by: judydawn on October 09, 2018, 11:19:52 pm
Thanks Chookie.