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Welcoming Center, Management and General Chat => Chit Chat => Topic started by: kezza on December 16, 2012, 09:47:13 am
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Has anyone noticed lately that Coles seems to be reducing prices on its own brand name stuff? Clever ploy, as there own no name stuff is not as expensive to produce, so can afford to 'lower' prices.
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When I see the large stores lowering prices, I just think how much they must have been ripping us off before.
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I hate how they are replacing items with their own brand stuff.
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Me too Cookie >:(
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Me too.
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Me four :-))
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Yes its shockingcookie. Some nice old lady was telling me how upset she was that some items came in home brand only, we looked for her products but could only find home brand. She saud she would try somewhere else. Good on her :)
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I hate home brands. I don't think the quality is there
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I just want to have the choice. I hate it when the only option is a home brand. I am not loyal to home brands but I am to name brands that I like and trust the quality but they keep disappearing.
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That's exactly right Kimmyh. We have a right to choice
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I totally agree. I prefer to shop at Foodland where I still get a choice of local brands, and at my local growers market.
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they make more money out of their branded stuff.
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The way I see it is that the home brand stuff is more likely to be the branded stuff "under cover". The brand companies are still making money by selling onto the supermarkets for generic branding. If they can afford to produce it and sell it cheaper - why don't they? They are banking on people being loyal to the brands, and those who don't think that generic brands are as good. A lot of the generic stuff is locally produced in Australia. If home brand is cheaper and just as good, I know which one I take off the shelf ;)
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They know what they are doing CP its all part of the plan :-))
i am happy with generic brands for now
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The way I see it is that the home brand stuff is more likely to be the branded stuff "under cover". The brand companies are still making money by selling onto the supermarkets for generic branding. If they can afford to produce it and sell it cheaper - why don't they? They are banking on people being loyal to the brands, and those who don't think that generic brands are as good. A lot of the generic stuff is locally produced in Australia. If home brand is cheaper and just as good, I know which one I take off the shelf ;)
Many years ago I worked with a man whose son worked for Anchor foods. Anchor foods produced the Black and gold brad cordial as well as the Anchor brand. He reckoned that when they were making the black and gold brand cordial the percentage of water increased while the percentage of flavouring/sugar decreased. So while it was cheaper you had to use more to achieve the same strength of flavour.
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I used to work for ADFS which packaged Sunbeam, black and gold, IGA brands.
all the same, but different pricing.
It is a great marketing thing
Mortien, pea bau and black flag are all owned by the same company.
same as Nu Clenz and pine o cleen, one is dearer, one is quite cheap
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I think you need to try generic and if you find it ok, fair enough. I like some and not others.
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I agree cookie which us why I want choice. Sometimes standards go down if no competition.
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I agree. I was looking for dried fruit and nuts the other day in Woolies and the brand I usually buy was gone and a WW own brand was there.
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I used to work for ADFS which packaged Sunbeam, black and gold, IGA brands.
all the same, but different pricing.
It is a great marketing thing
Mortien, pea bau and black flag are all owned by the same company.
same as Nu Clenz and pine o cleen, one is dearer, one is quite cheap
Domestos and the generic the same. Panadol is just paracetamol . Buy the cheapest. I get Panamax 100 tabs for $1.
Lots of things are the same ingredients and packaged by the same company.
Gert
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I used to work for ADFS which packaged Sunbeam, black and gold, IGA brands.
all the same, but different pricing.
It is a great marketing thing
Mortien, pea bau and black flag are all owned by the same company.
same as Nu Clenz and pine o cleen, one is dearer, one is quite cheap
Domestos and the generic the same. Panadol is just paracetamol . Buy the cheapest. I get Panamax 100 tabs for $1.
Lots of things are the same ingredients and packaged by the same company.
Gert
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I can't do what Uni did with the like pic so I will say ditto ;D
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;D
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Often generics in either food items etc or meds have the same base recipe but the filler element is not the same. They are not the same but depends if your happy with the product you buy or not.generic or not. Ive tried for example several generic meds and although the ingredients listed are the same the filler is not and they often make me sick....as much as alot is used on marketing and therefore the product is more expensive the actual two products are not identical.. There is always a difference hence them being cheaper to produce..cheaper price to the public... Comes back to the saying you get what you pay for.. Dont believe everything the media shoves down your throat on a current affair and similar shows about generic and other products being the same and do some research... Only half truths... Speel over
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Ditto what Frozzie said. DW tried taking Panamax years ago but it made her ill every time. The active ingredients are the same but they often use different fillers.
My big issue with all the supermarket branded goods is that they are displacing the anme brabded products often with cheap imported products. Sometimes they are made by the same manufacturer on the same line with the same products just different labels but not always.
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I have an issue with baked beans. How on earth did they get so expensive? One of the generic ones was acceptable but is now more expensive than the name brand when not on special. If they did not take so long to cook I would make my own ALL the time. Often it is a spur of the moment want.
Dick Smith is rolling out more advertising lately and I have been searching out and buying some of his products even though they do cost more but not all are equal. Woolies are supposed to have his products but they are certainly hard to find. Coles have practically nil here.
We all would like to support Aussie made with Aussie contents but it ain't easy. We are only two and I can imagine family's would think twice about added costs .
Then again I paid $4.30 for a cup,of coffee using imported beans yesterday. Why? I have perfectly perfect local coffee beans grown right here and roasted right here and in my house . They cost $38 a kilo. Which is not much more than premium Arabica beans in the supermarket. And what makes me madder is one local coffee shop recently tossed out the local,product for an inferior bean and still charges $4.50 for a cup of black coffee.
I was really annoyed with myself for not waiting until I got home for my coffee. And I got sucked in to buying a crappy imported cheese which all but ruined my $100 challenge. I could just as easily bought a crappy local made cheese cheaper.
Frozzie is right about fillers in tablets. Sometimes they can be sodium sulfites which is a meat preserving agent among other things and sodium hydroxide which is used in drain cleaners. Sometimes they are made with maize starch and cellulose.
Terry Whites brand is made in India.
Panamax is made in the UK and contains : maize starch, purified talc, pregelatinised maize starch, povidone, stearic acid and potassium sorbate.
With cleaning products if the active ingredients are equal then you may as well buy the cheapest or use vinegar and elbow grease. ;D
Can you imagine what lipstick is made with!!!
Gert
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Can you imagine what lipstick is made with!!!
Probably best to not think about it. :o
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I find the generic domestos is not as good as the real thing
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Agree with that Yvette .
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Somehow lost me post. Maybe this is the second.
Early this year I spotted in Coles a shelf full of their smart brand Domestos for $1 a bottle, it had exactly,the same active ingredients per volumn as the Domestos so I bought all on the shelf . The Domestos was over $5 a bottle. Something like $5.49 but don't trust my memory.
As an added bonus the bottles were 1.25 litres as apposed to,the Domestos 750 mls. Anyway I bought all 10 that were there. Never saw that price or that bottle again. This will last me several years at a saving of over $40. I would not know the difference as I have always used the cheapie.
Now what about the price of soda water!!!!!!
Gert
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Plain brand canned tomatoes don't have the nasties that the name brands do. (Cookie taught me that :))
Now what about the price of soda water?
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I agree about the tomatoes. Often they are tastier too. Now that tomatoes are cheaper we won't be using so many canned ones which is even better.
Why as the cost of Schweppes gone up so much!. It is almost cheaper to drink a bottle of Yellow than a few scotch and sodas.
Gert
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I bought a soda stream
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I've started growing my own tomatoes and have a soda stream on my second one as couldn't get gas bottles to fit the old one.
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Now you're making your own ice cream as well in your new machine, you'll have the supermarkets knocking on your door asking where you've been lately Jen
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I'll have to buy a cow and some chooks then I will be set lol
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What nasties are in canned tomatoes?
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I've started growing my own tomatoes and have a soda stream on my second one as couldn't get gas bottles to fit the old one.
That's strange you mention the soda stream gas bottles as I just bought a new bottle last week and it doesn't fit. First one we have replaced for awhile. DH drinks soda water most of the time. They must change the size of bottles on new machines so we have to replace the machine. >:(
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What nasties are in canned tomatoes?
Next time you're in the supermarket pick up a few different cans. Tomatoes aren't tomatoes if there's not one or two extra additives. Why should we even have to look?
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I've started growing my own tomatoes and have a soda stream on my second one as couldn't get gas bottles to fit the old one.
That's strange you mention the soda stream gas bottles as I just bought a new bottle last week and it doesn't fit. First one we have replaced for awhile. DH drinks soda water most of the time. They must change the size of bottles on new machines so we have to replace the machine. >:(
You can still get the smaller gas bottles at Big w. well you could a few months ago,
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Thanks Jen will have a look at Big W. I got mine at KMart and didn't have the empty one with me so bought a new one but it is skinny compared to the old one and the top is different so it doesn't connect after screwing into the machine.
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MF I think the new soda stream bottles are 60 litres whereas the others were 40 litres. Woolworths supermarkets have both size refills here. On one of our machines you could cut out the bottom section of the part where the gas bottle goes to take the new size. I emailed them and told them the model no of the machine we had and they told us what to do to take the new size gas bottle.
Marie
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I have heaps of tomatoes in my vege garden
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My naughty DH gave my soda stream away when he was in one of his cleaning-out moods! >:(
There have been some good specials coming up on new ones lately, so might have to get one just to annoy him. But we do drink mainly plain water and I don't want the kids asking for fizz all the time.
There are some store brand items that I really love, but some things don't quite measure up for me...spaghetti is one that springs to mind although I rarely buy it anyway.
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MF I think the new soda stream bottles are 60 litres whereas the others were 40 litres. Woolworths supermarkets have both size refills here. On one of our machines you could cut out the bottom section of the part where the gas bottle goes to take the new size. I emailed them and told them the model no of the machine we had and they told us what to do to take the new size gas bottle.
Marie
Thanks Marie I will check out Woolies today :)
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For those of you using the soda stream for Soda Water are you just carbonating plain water with the soda stream or adding something else to it? I've never been overly happy with our soda stream, I find the bubbles disappear very quickly and it sits on the bench neglected.
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I just drink the soda water plain, sometimes with a slice of lemon or a few mint leaves. DS add juice or cordial.
My soda stream is quite old, I pump it quite a few times, and have replaced the bottle when they dont keep there fix,seems to help.
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Like Jen I sometimes put ice and slice of lemon or lime.
Wonder it sounds as though you are not gassing it enough. Once it starts to make "the noise" the more times you pump after that the more bubbles you will get, I usually pump 4 - 5 times. Ours last quite a long time in the fridge.
Marie
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Mmmm, maybe I NEED a soda stream. I haven't looked at them before because I don't drink a lot of soft drink but do drink a lot of soda water. I am guessing it ends up being more economical to use the soda stream rather than buy the bottles from the supermarket. Perhaps Santa will bring me one.
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I drink it with lemon, or lime.
pump about 5 times
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So is soda water just carbonated water? when I buy bottled soda water it tastes very different to just putting water in the soda stream bottle and carbonating. I thought you must need to add a flavour like to all the other soda stream drinks. I think I might just be a bit of a snob when it comes to fizz, on the rare occassions I have soft drink I will only drink from a can and after a max of 1/2hr I find it's not fizzy enough anymore - that's probably why I don't drink much soft drink because it always has to opended just as I drink it.