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Title: TM5
Post by: Essie on September 13, 2014, 02:47:36 pm
Hi there, I am new to this forum and not a Thermomix owner so eagerly consuming all I can from people who know Thermomix best.
Have you had a chance to see or use TM5 yet? What do you like about it? What can you do in TM5 more easily than you could do in TM31? Does the extra few degrees make any difference? Looking forward to herring your thoughts and comments.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 13, 2014, 04:50:27 pm
I have owned a TM31 for eight years and loved everyday that it has been in my kitchen.I have had a TM5 for three days and love that too.
I like the Three Automated recipes in the TM5. I thought I wouldn't like the recipe chip but I do.It's easy to use and you don't need to keep looking at the basic cookery book as it all on the screen.I haven't made too many recipe from the book yet to see its full potential.The scales are better. I don't particularly like that the lid seal isn't removable to wash.Its is bigger than the TM31 so takes up more space on my worktop.
I'm sure as the other girls receive their TM5 they will give their verdicts too.
My TM31 hasn't missed a beat in all the years I have owned it.It even has an original set of blades in one of the bowls.There are many cookery books,numerous blogs/websites,Facebook pages and even apps that have recipes for the TM31.Its easy to use reliable and built to last.

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on September 14, 2014, 01:02:05 am
Good to know CC. Thank you
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on September 14, 2014, 02:27:29 pm
I also thought I wouldn't really like the recipe chip but now am really like it. The ease of pulling up a recipe to check something is great compared to me getting the book off the shelf. Also the kids love following the recipe on it.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on September 14, 2014, 03:07:09 pm
I like the recent recipes and the favourites option. I've only had a demo so far, but can't wait!!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on September 15, 2014, 11:29:22 am
I'm awaiting the arrival of my TM5 & wondering if the recipe chips comes with recipes on it like a online cook book so to speak or is that where you save your favorites. I have never owed a TM so will have nothing to compare it to
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 15, 2014, 11:43:55 am
The recipe chip contains all the recipes that comes with the Basic Cookbook.I think Australia might have slightly different recipes to the UK Basic Cookbook.Here (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=15762.0) is the UK's contents list.
The chip does tell your favourite recipes that you have tagged as favorites or recently cooked recipes but only that are contained in the chip.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: zebby on September 15, 2014, 02:00:42 pm
How easy is it to clean if you can't remove the lid? Can you still pop it in the dishwasher?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 15, 2014, 02:46:47 pm
You can remove the lid on the TM5 but the lid seal isn't removable.You can put everything into the dishwasher.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on September 15, 2014, 02:59:16 pm
The Cookbook has 100 Australian recipes and about 150 International recipes, from memory.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on September 15, 2014, 10:49:39 pm
I think thats right MJ although my consultant also said its the same book and chip the world over, but that doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dustbunny on September 17, 2014, 12:58:48 pm
I think that there is a "select language" function (saw an unboxing on YouTube... hoping I am remembering correctly)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 17, 2014, 01:12:28 pm
Yes you can change languages.It also has a transportation mode and locking program.You also can change the background colour on the screen.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 17, 2014, 01:20:09 pm
So does that mean that all the German chips will be able to be translated into English? (Sounds like a really dumb question although I think there are about 5 German chips out there?)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 17, 2014, 01:26:24 pm
I hadn't thought of that CP and I'm not sure. Maybe if Lee buys the chips he can change the language settings and see if it translates into English easily.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: leesmac78 on September 17, 2014, 06:11:04 pm
I promise to let you all know.  I keep checking my letter box, nothing.  The stork hasn't brought Thermie II yet.  We don't have delivery demos to my knowledge, it just lands on the doorstep by courier and off we go.

Xxxooo
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Jamberie on September 21, 2014, 07:27:45 am
I went to a TM5 demo yesterday.
Here are my observations (please note this is just my opinion after only one demo)

*I found it to be quieter with custard (and for making JulieO's cookies and cream fudge, this would be a bonus), about the same as the TM31 with sorbet, parmesan, nuts etc
*I think the guided cooking is a great idea, especially for people who don't like recipe books (many kids and partners would really like this)
*I did really like the cookbook and think I will order one when it becomes available
*I kind of got the feeling that there is less control, but I think that would come back with more use.
*If they upgrade with wifi compatability and make the chips open market, it would be very appealing
*The automated feature for cooking rice and yoghurt (the blades don't move* -edited: see Cornish Cream's comment below) could be adapted by those who are clever and can 'pretend' they are making rice whilst actually taking advantage of the blades not moving and be making something else (I'll have to do some more research to find suitable alternate recipes).
*The Varoma basket in the TM5 is better. The base is flat and wider, enabling a wider range of cake pans etc to be used
*The measuring cup is great that it has a 'spout'
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: charlieboy on September 21, 2014, 09:09:25 am
Great reviews. I'm looking forward to my demo next weekend:)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on September 21, 2014, 09:14:01 am
Good review Jam,  I'm not inspired yet to,have a demo, but if someone close was having one I would go for a look
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on September 21, 2014, 09:51:55 am
Thanks Jamberie, it's going to be interesting to read everyone's reviews of the new machine.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on September 21, 2014, 10:39:33 am
I had my demo today (to get my free thermo server). I noticed the motor is quieter, the new sounds are much more pleasant, I like that the silicon ring is attached to the lid (my consultant said she finds it easier to clean), I also like the cook book has photos from all the recipes. I love the guided cooking because we've got a small kitchen so we often don't have enough bench space for a cook book.

I loved the TM5 so much I was naughty and bought it (my aunty bought one too!)!! My consultant even managed to sell my old one for me (but I was only asking $1200 for it, and there's older ones (mine's 3-4 months) on Gumtree for more).

My consultant told me there's talk of the ability in future to upload your own recipes to chips which would be awesome.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on September 21, 2014, 10:58:09 am
A nice consultant bluebear! Hang on to her LOL. The person who bought your almost brand new TM31 got a real bargain.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on September 21, 2014, 11:57:09 am
Jamberie I am going to try making a curry and see if I can use one of the auto settings to turn the blades off. Only because I found some cuts of meat still got shredded a bit which I didn't like.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 21, 2014, 12:50:29 pm
Although Jamberie said the blades don't move on the yoghurt and rice automated programs they do initially and then they stop turning to complete the program Troupie.
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Post by: Jamberie on September 21, 2014, 06:12:39 pm
Thanks CC, I'll amend my post :)
The consultant said they didn't move :/ thanks for clarifying :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on September 21, 2014, 11:14:20 pm
A nice consultant bluebear! Hang on to her LOL. The person who bought your almost brand new TM31 got a real bargain.
I will be! She lives near Costco and offered to get me the 320g tubes of Vanilla Bean Paste (a lot cheaper than the small ones from the supermarkets) too.

I think she would have been really happy last night, my brother decided to buy a TM5 also (demos always wins people over)! So she managed to sell 3 at my demo yesterday afternoon.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Merrilyn on September 22, 2014, 03:31:19 am
Hi bluebear.  I really need a new consultant, and your's sounds lovely.  Are you in Melbourne?  This new TM5 keeps calling my name :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: maddy on September 22, 2014, 04:11:10 am
Has it been confirmed if there's a power out whilst cooking, can the lid be taken off, or is it still in lock mode?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on September 22, 2014, 04:17:51 am
Good question maddy.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 22, 2014, 05:05:45 am
Definitely   a concern as we have plenty of blackouts where I Live. My Dd is on the hospital grid so is always . OK.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on September 22, 2014, 05:11:38 am
Hi bluebear.  I really need a new consultant, and your's sounds lovely.  Are you in Melbourne?  This new TM5 keeps calling my name :)

I am!! My consultant lives in the Ringwood area, not sure how close or far that is to you, she was willing to come to me (I live near Fountain Gate). Let me know if you'd like her details.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Merrilyn on September 22, 2014, 12:01:50 pm
Yes please blue bear.  I would love her details.  Richmond might be a bit far for her, but I can ask at least.  Thankyou.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on September 22, 2014, 01:03:43 pm
Has it been confirmed if there's a power out whilst cooking, can the lid be taken off, or is it still in lock mode?

I asked this question too and it sounds like the lid would be locked on if the power went out. So what ever you are making would have to stay there. Be no good if you have bread dough and it keeps rising for hours lol.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on September 22, 2014, 01:15:47 pm
You'd have to hop in the car and race to a suburb which has power LOL.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on September 22, 2014, 01:39:48 pm
Great idea Judy!!

My consultant is also lovely, we're getting a Thermomat. (I cut mine...) She's also giving me a $50 commission as my sister bought from her.

She has made meat stews using the new butterfly and said the meat was perfect.

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 22, 2014, 10:48:05 pm

She has made meat stews using the new butterfly and said the meat was perfect.

This is good to know.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on September 23, 2014, 12:43:28 am
Yes please blue bear.  I would love her details.  Richmond might be a bit far for her, but I can ask at least.  Thankyou.
Sent you a PM :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 23, 2014, 10:26:09 pm
Interesting tip from FB posting.

IMPORTANT TIP: you must 'shutdown' your TM5 properly by pressing the selector switch until the shutdown message appears BEFORE you switch it off at the wall EVERYTIME. If your TM5 goes into sleep mode you need to wake it up and shutdown properly. Failure to 'shutdown' 4 times in succession will/can cause an error that needs to be sent away for service to restore. Think of it like a laptop. {sorry if this tip has been told before, we learnt this at our team meeting this week}


Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on September 24, 2014, 03:29:39 am
That's silly. My laptop does not need to be sent to a service center because I don't shut it down properly no matter how many times.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on September 24, 2014, 05:44:22 am
Interesting tip from FB posting.

IMPORTANT TIP: you must 'shutdown' your TM5 properly by pressing the selector switch until the shutdown message appears BEFORE you switch it off at the wall EVERYTIME. If your TM5 goes into sleep mode you need to wake it up and shutdown properly. Failure to 'shutdown' 4 times in succession will/can cause an error that needs to be sent away for service to restore. Think of it like a laptop. {sorry if this tip has been told before, we learnt this at our team meeting this week}


Gert
I had wondered about this at the demo. Usually I just switch the TM31 off at the power point. I guess I'll have to get use to "shutting" it down first. Though having to turn it on when asleep to just turn it off seems silly.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on September 24, 2014, 08:35:05 am
Apparently my new TM is possibly just a few days away (ready for dispatch) 😃
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on September 24, 2014, 10:15:29 am
still waiting for mine, although paid for 2 weeks ago. they said wait 21 days.  :-\


Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 24, 2014, 11:09:18 am
woohoo! tomorrow is the big D day for me  ;D ;D ;D ;D 10am  Instead of doing the veggie stock I've asked if we can make a Pavlova and follow the chip

(http://dl3.glitter-graphics.net/pub/2728/2728573v9uzceh80r.gif) (http://www.glitter-graphics.com) just doing a little happy dance
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bonsai on September 24, 2014, 11:17:17 am
Considering that many people in the world struggle to find enough to eat or fuel to cook with, I have to remind myself that our grumbles are truly a "first world problem".
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 24, 2014, 12:10:12 pm
Indeed!

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on September 24, 2014, 09:08:38 pm
Was thinking that the bit of stir and then no stir program might be good for Chow Mien.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 24, 2014, 09:15:31 pm
Thinking there may be a few recipes for the stir no stir program we can master and share. We are the Master of the machiine not the other way around eh? the machine has no idea wht we are putting into it.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on September 24, 2014, 10:08:38 pm
Thinking there may be a few recipes for the stir no stir program we can master and share. We are the Master of the machiine not the other way around eh? the machine has no idea wht we are putting into it.

Gert
Exactly!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on September 25, 2014, 02:27:26 am
 ;D  ;D True!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 25, 2014, 04:42:34 am
Just made the pav and here I am putting the egg white on the tray. It whipped up beautifully, and was a cinch. Had to rush abit with the photo cos my consultant had an appointment to go to, so new machine not in the picture. In the oven now, and will post a pic of the final product later.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 25, 2014, 04:56:38 am
Couldn't get the pic CP?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 25, 2014, 05:45:58 am
ok I will try again, the first time didn't work as there was an error message about the server...hang on a minny...
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 25, 2014, 06:07:13 am
It's not working, so I will email to JD
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on September 25, 2014, 08:00:13 am
I received it thanks CP but I can't see how to put it on the forum so I've sent it to Katie to see if her or her IT expert DH can manage to put it on for you.  I must say how good the mixture looked though.  Hang on and we'll see what we can do for you.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on September 25, 2014, 08:21:30 am
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/25/0af2cf631df1f89295d22c00349302a5.jpg)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on September 25, 2014, 08:22:19 am
Hope that worked!
It does look so lovely.
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Post by: Wonder on September 25, 2014, 08:34:57 am
Looks great CP
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Post by: dede on September 25, 2014, 08:45:37 am
Looks perfect. Yum what time is dessert :)
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Post by: Cornish Cream on September 25, 2014, 08:51:33 am
Looks lovely CP. 8)
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Post by: judydawn on September 25, 2014, 09:39:52 am
Thanks Katie, you're a gem xx
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Post by: gertbysea on September 25, 2014, 09:45:55 am
That is fantastic CP . I guess the butterfly is much much better.

Gert
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Post by: JulieO on September 25, 2014, 09:48:44 am
Looks brilliant CP, looking forward to seeing the end result.   :D
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Post by: jeninwa on September 25, 2014, 10:36:32 am
CP that looks great.
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Post by: BeezeeBee on September 25, 2014, 10:38:40 am
Lovely, CP
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Post by: Kimmyh on September 25, 2014, 10:39:02 am
Wow that's impressive CP.
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Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 25, 2014, 12:33:56 pm
Thanks Katie and DH. I'm not sure why I couldn't get the pic up. 8 egg whites is a lot and it a biggie. I think I will not decorate it and have the pav tomorrow night. I'm busy making Bread, and also Beef Rendang and then rice. I love the automated recipes and in general it's been fantastic so far.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 25, 2014, 12:36:46 pm
CP it would be interesting to know what recipes are on your recipe chip.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 25, 2014, 01:17:16 pm
So far I think it's everything that's in the basic cook book that comes with it. Is that your thoughts? I would say they are trying to make it universal and cut out "hawkers"
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 25, 2014, 01:27:04 pm
I think the Australian Basic Recipe Book/Recipe Chip have slightly different recipes to the UK one.
Here (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=15762.0) is the contents I posted.I think Trudy said there is a Hazelnut Cake Recipe and I believe there is a recipe for Anzac Biscuits?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 25, 2014, 01:35:09 pm
Will have a more detailed look tomorrow, but confirming there is a Hazelnut Torte on p328
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 25, 2014, 01:41:55 pm
Thanks CP :-* So they are different.
Please when you have time could you post the contents of the Australian Basic Cookbook.Thank you :-*
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 25, 2014, 03:02:41 pm
I'll try to do this over the weekend if I can. The Beef Rendang is the same as in the EDC. I have never made it before and it was a 10. Only had 750g of Gravy beef cos there was no more, but cooked it for the same time. #feelinghappynotthatIwasn't
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 25, 2014, 08:42:30 pm
Looks like the chip is a winner for those not so confident cooks then. I have never made a pavlova and probably never would but I might have to just because I can just for the challenge.

I usually make Tenina's Rendang but perhaps the one on the chip is actually one she developed in the first place as I would guess many on the chip are. Some of the recipes In other Thermomix books are utter crap and I would never trust any from the website unless they are from some trusted cooks  as I hate to waste food.  Seems they woUld have had to test each recipe before uploading it to the chip as there would be no way to correct it by publishing an update to an errors as they  had done with the first EDC. Can't see then sending out correction chips. LOL!

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on September 25, 2014, 09:37:04 pm
looks lovely CP.
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Post by: Wonder on September 25, 2014, 09:47:00 pm
CP it's great to hear you are happy so far and that if a cook of your ability is seeing value in the chip sounds like it will be a winner for them. Getting excited to get mine and give it a try even though it's still about 4 weeks away for me.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on September 25, 2014, 10:36:22 pm
I seeing statuses on facebook saying customers TM5s are on the way. Mine must be close :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on September 25, 2014, 11:20:22 pm
How exciting CP! It reminds me when my consultant was at my demo she asked if I had whipped any eggs whites or cream in my TM31 and I said I done both, then pointed to my kitchen aid, and told her in there.
Title: Re: Re: Re: TM5
Post by: Jamberie on September 25, 2014, 11:31:24 pm
Thanks CP :-* So they are different.
Please when you have time could you post the contents of the Australian Basic Cookbook.Thank you :-*
I asked about this at the demo I attended.  Apparently 80 of the recipes are the anne across countries,  the remainder (100?) Are specific to the country of purchase.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Sleeping Lions on September 26, 2014, 07:10:22 am
Can anyone confirm whether hosting a demo will mean I will qualify for a thermoserver? I'm hearing yes and no from people, so would like to know for sure before I order.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on September 26, 2014, 07:29:51 am
Yes I did and quality for the thermo serve. Should come with my TM.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on September 26, 2014, 07:31:07 am
Just wondering if people in Australia are getting their TM5 within the 20 days or longer my payment was processed on the 17th Sept & we are going on holidays on the 11th Oct so hoping it will arrive. I see no point in contacting the consultant as she has not gotten back to me to arrange a demo & the cooking class was canceled due to low numbers no notice was given to me either so don't feel she is helpful in any way. I so wanting my TM to arrive & take it away with us & all so how do they delivery it any info would be great
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Sleeping Lions on September 26, 2014, 07:34:16 am
Thanks, Dede! I really need one (I sold my last one), but I'm not overly keen on paying extra unless I have to. I will have another chat with my consultant and see if we can do a proper demo :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on September 26, 2014, 07:35:03 am
They seem to be starting to arrive now. I ordered mine on the 9th September and apparently it's ready to be delivered. Hopefully next week I will see it.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on September 26, 2014, 07:40:08 am
Oo how exciting Mandi, im wishing mine here but ordered 15th so still a wait i suspect.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on September 26, 2014, 07:42:14 am
My consultant said mine was ready for dispatch. So I guess at least I have my name on one.
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Post by: turando on September 26, 2014, 11:26:08 am
You do qualify for a thermoserver. From memory demos need to be held within 2 months or so to get the thermoserver.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: lonnie on September 26, 2014, 11:29:11 am
I've been given a delivery date of 7 Oct, which is right on the 20 working days advised when I ordered (9 Sept). I'm really looking forward to receiving the TM5  :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on September 26, 2014, 12:07:02 pm
Naturalmamma - you may struggle to get it by then as it would be 17 business days since your payment was done. But hopefully they start processing quicker and get them out and you get it in time for your holiday :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: floweryspring on September 26, 2014, 01:27:45 pm
After seeing the pav, am curious what creaming sugar and butter is like in tm5? Could never get it right in tm31
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Sleeping Lions on September 27, 2014, 01:04:30 am
I could never get butter and sugar to cream properly in my tm31 either, floweryspring.

Does anyone know if the slightly higher temperature is enough to pop popcorn? I'm guessing that it isn't, but it would be cool if it was.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: rostess on September 27, 2014, 12:21:45 pm
Sleeping lions - it isn't hot enough to pop popcorn. I started training to be a consultant last week and the trainer specifically said it's still not hot enough. Apparently a lot of people ask that!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on September 27, 2014, 12:56:28 pm
I find that the secret to creaming butter and sugar is to use a speed of about 3.
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Post by: charlieboy on September 27, 2014, 08:58:09 pm
Ordered my TM5 last night... so excited.  Now just have to work out where I will fit it.  Definitely first world problems :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on September 27, 2014, 09:26:45 pm
Congratulations Charlieboy. There are a few of us waiting now so there should be lots of information coming onto the boards in the next month or so.
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Post by: Itsnotartitsdinner on September 27, 2014, 10:53:03 pm
Gert have you ordered one?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: charlieboy on September 28, 2014, 12:08:52 am
Congratulations Charlieboy. There are a few of us waiting now so there should be lots of information coming onto the boards in the next month or so.

Thanks Wonder, you too :)
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Post by: Itsnotartitsdinner on September 28, 2014, 12:36:43 am
I would go out and buy one tomorrow if it came with the ability of uploading your own recipes.
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Post by: Aussie Brenda on September 28, 2014, 02:01:56 am
Great news Charlieboy, make sure you keep it on the bench, 
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Post by: Jamberie on September 28, 2014, 04:31:40 am
I would go out and buy one tomorrow if it came with the ability of uploading your own recipes.
Me too....and recipes from other sources
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Post by: astarra on September 28, 2014, 05:40:49 am
I would go out and buy one tomorrow if it came with the ability of uploading your own recipes.
Me too....and recipes from other sources

Me three.  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on September 28, 2014, 08:11:25 am
Don't you still have the option to use it manually & follow a recipe just can't save a recipe to the recipe chip?  A part of me thinks I should have gotten a second hand TM31 as the wait seams to be taking forever
Title: Re: Re: Re: TM5
Post by: Jamberie on September 28, 2014, 08:16:45 am
Don't you still have the option to use it manually & follow a recipe just can't save a recipe to the recipe chip?  A part of me thinks I should have gotten a second hand TM31 as the wait seams to be taking forever
Yes, you can use the TM5 it manually and follow recipes from books. It's just that for me at this point in time the difference is not worth me upgrading my TM31 for the guided cooking from one cookbook...However my opinion may be swayed! Don't worry too much about the wait (I remember waiting for my TM31 was painful too!) think of it as a great opportunity to read and research so that when it comes you are prepared!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on September 28, 2014, 09:27:17 am
I got an email saying that they were getting towards the 11th of september orders being sent out now.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on September 28, 2014, 01:16:13 pm
Oh good. My order went in on the 10th September.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on September 28, 2014, 01:21:37 pm
Must be close Cookie, mines in "picking" or some such thing.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on September 28, 2014, 09:19:14 pm
Ordered my 5 yesterday.  Will come when I return from Tassie.   Not in a hurry.  Giving 31 to DD,  but training GC how to use it.  Ist. lesson today. GS likes my bread so that's where I will start with him.  GD wants to make lemon butter.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: JulieO on September 28, 2014, 10:27:51 pm
That's great news Chookie.  I look forward to hearing about your exploits in it.  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on September 28, 2014, 11:01:04 pm
Chookie , looking forward to hearing about how the new one performs, it' s great  the GK 's have an interest in cooking, the TMX will be safer than cooking on a stove top but you do realise they will need one when they grow up they won't be able to cook any other way. ;)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 29, 2014, 12:21:02 am
Today at 1300 I am having a Demo. If we don't have too many savvies I might get to see something interesting!

We are doing Menu 2 which  is Sorbet (raspberry), Pizza, Dip ( I know not what), Soup ( I hope it is not bl**dy pumpkin), Salmon Veloute, and Custard. I never in my life have made custard  and don't want to.

I could have made a few changes I know but I decided to keep it as easy as possible for the consultant who is no doubt still getting used to the whole new thing.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on September 29, 2014, 01:35:36 am
It's probably potato & leek soup Gert if the recipe in the EDC is anything to go by  ;)  A simple demo indeed.  How many do you have coming?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on September 29, 2014, 02:12:43 am
I just read the Salmon Voloute recipe and it makes a soup underneath the steaming salmon and Veggies, let us know what it is like , I might like this,
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 29, 2014, 03:09:00 am
Had to revamp the whole house!

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/28/323e04e0ad1eadd4feef56794d6c0c67.jpg)

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on September 29, 2014, 03:19:22 am
Exciting Gert. I love the central wine in a glass. I look forward to your honest opinions of 5  I'm hoping mine arrives before Tassie.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on September 29, 2014, 03:52:24 am
I can see after all that work ,   You would need a glass       Or.   Two.
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Post by: Itsnotartitsdinner on September 29, 2014, 04:33:51 am
I'm just half an hour late Gert :p looks great interested to hear your thoughts.

Re why would the ability to store own recipes sway me....  Well I just can't find a fool proof recipe software. I've looked at them all and none of them are easy to use on phone or tablet. I have so many favourite recipes and no way to track them. Guided cooking isn't of interest to me unless they are recipes I'm interested in. So those that have been reading this may be an option what are your sources?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katj on September 29, 2014, 05:21:16 am
Looking forward to hearing your comments Gert, you've done well setting up, looks lovely!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: lonnie on September 29, 2014, 05:33:58 am
That looks really well set up, Gert. I hope the demo went well and I'll look out for your comments later.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on September 29, 2014, 07:10:03 am
Will be interested Gert.  Don't be too hard on the demonstrator.  Apparently they don't know the answers to most of the questions you might want to ask.  I wanted a second bowl but can't have that till next year.  They haven't been properly trained and will only learn on the job. 
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: goldfish on September 29, 2014, 07:25:40 am
Chookie, I went to a TM5 demo on the weekend..... And I have to agree with you! It will be a lot of "on the job" learning!  I think consultants are coping with a heck of a lot of pressure at the moment.  I'll be staying with my 31 for the moment.....we'll see what the future brings;)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 29, 2014, 09:04:18 am
I just wrote my review and got a phone call and the bl**dy thing timed out and I lost it all. I will post tomorrow if I Have time. Very busy day tomorrow.

NUFF  to say my consultant was great. Has the thing down pat. The features are very desirable . Love the lid locking. Love the book and the on screen recipes will be very useful. It is marginally quieter. The chime is a bit tinny but nice. The jug is a more useful size. The Varoma  is bigger and was awesome for the amount of veggies we put into it. 

Had to wrangle the lively group I had so did not have a chance to play with it but I will on delivery!

Tell ya more when I can. Sorry but i am very tired.

it really is awesome! 

More than 10,000 sold  here already.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on September 29, 2014, 10:54:23 am
You have ordered one Gert. That speaks for itself.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 29, 2014, 11:10:54 am
Ya gotta love a new toy. My DD will no doubt be ordering one as well. It will really help,her as she loves a recipe and follows it exactly.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on September 29, 2014, 11:45:05 am
Anyone else at the demo interested Gert?  Were the demo recipes does from that chip thing?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 29, 2014, 12:10:00 pm
Glad you like the TM5 Gert.It sounds as though you had a great demo ;) :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: EmeraldSue on September 29, 2014, 01:18:19 pm
Can't wait to read your review Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 29, 2014, 09:30:17 pm
Sue since I didn't t really get a play with it, I can't say a lot.  But the demo was slick.

Started with  fruity dream. Blitzed some sugar. Less than the recipe, added about  500 or more gms of frozen raspberries and blitzed. Added egg white and blitzed . Then the unbelievable butterfly went In with a wee but of water added to,get  the frozen mass started and honestly it blitzed into a creamy mouse like texture. It was delicious. The butterfly is outstanding and is interchangeable with the TMX31. I would buy it when it becomes available.

Then a dip with Philly, with herbs  and garlic. Some of this was reserved.

Then we made the 1234 bread mix  which was divided into two. Half was made into a pizza using oiled hands the other wrapped in the thermomat to rise. Blitzed a bunch of home grown herbs and garlic in the jug and I have to tell you they were perfectly done which makes be think my blades must be a bit blunt. This was spread on to the pizza and in the oven.

Without cleaning the jug  in went  the fixings for the sweet potato and leek soup and blitzed. In the Varoma top went more veggies than I thought would fit. Into the bottom went  6 pieces of  salmon on some wet paper. Next to that went 3 slices of chicken breast . All together 20 minutes on 120 and perfectly. Into the the THERMOSERVERS went the veg, fish and chicken while we ate the soup.

Some of the soup was retained and mustard and whatever was the recipe which is on the chip I am sure went into the jug without washing it!
This was the sauce for the fish and chicken and was really deliscious .

All in all a slick presentation using all the functions  with minimum of fuss. All the while the consultant was  giving the drum and answering questions.

Then came the custard which was the auto thing and one of my ladies who was definitely not interested got up and followed the screen prompts to make the custard which took 8 minutes to cook. It was thick and really good but we made her use less sugar and cornflour than called for. She was a little doubtful about altering the  instructions but 'got it' and the custard was perfect for the apple tea cake I had made earlier. I am pretty sure she will be buying one.

So you can of course override the recipe with the auto thing but it is amazing that you just chuck it in , turn the dial and it sets the whole thing in motion.

The chip is a real bonus for someone who sometimes forgets a step. As the screen tells you exactly what to do.

I think these are great Innovations and there will no doubt be advancements in that area.

Longer blades, a bigger jug , the locking lid  I really like  and the MC with lip and collar  it did not dance while kneading but it looked like it wanted to.

The seal cannot be removed but just rinses . I would not put the lid in the dishwasher  but it can be.

I believe that the locking lid, the guided chip cooking will mean this machine is more family and user friendly . Young children who can read will be able to use it with supervision. Re blades and heat but teenagers will go wild for it. I really believe my DH who has never touched it will be able to follow a recipe and when mine arrives I will be asking him to give it a go. This will be a major test.

Do  I need all the new features? No I don't. The TMX31 is still an awesome machine  but the TM5 is highly desirable and if I had a family I would not hesitate to buy it.  It is really user friendly for everyone.  I think a newbie who has never cooked in their life will become a MasterChef in no time with this machine.

Sure there are still the same old blando recipes but a lot of new one . Everything in the book is on the chip which makes it soooooo easy and you can tweak away.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on September 29, 2014, 10:29:46 pm
Great review Gert, thanks for getting to it early before your busy day starts.   
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: JulieO on September 29, 2014, 10:41:28 pm
Fantastic review Gert, I really enjoyed reading it.  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on September 29, 2014, 10:51:00 pm
Thanks for a great review Gert, it obviously gets the thumbs up from you.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: lonnie on September 29, 2014, 11:14:17 pm
Great to see your review Gert - I'm really looking forward to seeing the TM5 in action in a week (and playing with it myself!)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on September 29, 2014, 11:34:11 pm
Great review Gert, mine is on the way.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: BeezeeBee on September 30, 2014, 12:05:34 am
Very well written review, Gert. They must have sent the very best demonstrator to you 😆
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: astarra on September 30, 2014, 12:14:42 am
Love the review Gert - tho I wish I hadn't read it cuz now I am getting tempted again... :-))
But I have 2 TM31s, 3 bowl & blade sets (1 extra to the machines) so definately don't neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed a TM5  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on September 30, 2014, 12:39:24 am
Thanks Gert, a seasoned pro like yourself recommending the TM5  makes me feel happier with my purchase.  It's a shame there is such a delay ( although understandable with the demand)  as I have had the old TM31 nervousness.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: goldfish on September 30, 2014, 12:39:40 am
Astarra...... h o w e v e r !!! ;D  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: goldfish on September 30, 2014, 12:43:32 am
Gert... Did your consultant actually demonstrate how the butterfly will fit your tm31? I thought the fitting part was a completely different shape but could be wrong. Went to a demo last weekend and thought  the consultant made that point...
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: jeninwa on September 30, 2014, 01:30:22 am
Thanks for the great review Gert, I really enjoyed reading it.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on September 30, 2014, 02:25:37 am
Thanks Gert. I hope mine arrives before Tassie. I ordered it about the 10 th so it's probably close. The rest of the family will be able to use the preprogrammed recipes with ease.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: faffa_70 on September 30, 2014, 03:42:24 am
Gert... Did your consultant actually demonstrate how the butterfly will fit your tm31? I thought the fitting part was a completely different shape but could be wrong. Went to a demo last weekend and thought  the consultant made that point...

I was under the same impression GF.  ??? ???
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 30, 2014, 03:45:38 am

Gert... Did your consultant actually demonstrate how the butterfly will fit your tm31? I thought the fitting part was a completely different shape but could be wrong. Went to a demo last weekend and thought  the consultant made that point...

I was under the same impression GF.  ??? ???




No she didn't but she seemed pretty sure.

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on September 30, 2014, 04:01:24 am
Great review Gert!

I ordered mine yesterday. I had talked myself out of it, but my DH talked me back into wanting it. I guess it was inevitable we would get one.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 30, 2014, 05:18:27 am
I'm not willing to put my new butterfly in the TM31 to see if it works when it's turned on. It seems to sit on the blades just as well as the old one, however it is quite different inside. There was a bit of movement as I turned it by hand, but popping the old one on there was the same movement. In size they are exactly the same, and the bones of the butterfly are the same, the only difference being in the whisks.

(I've attached 2 pics but I don't think they are working)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 30, 2014, 07:11:03 am
The story goes that the fellow who developed the new butterfly earned his PHD while working on and because of the new butterfly!

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 30, 2014, 08:45:35 am
Great review Gert 8)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on September 30, 2014, 09:18:03 am
Come on CP, give it ago, just start off slow and see how it goes.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on September 30, 2014, 09:25:49 am
Great review. I ordered mine on about the 4th September and was told a few days ago it's still 2 weeks away! I'm getting very antsy.

Having another demo at my place in two weeks. The first demo was at my consultant's place - she's a friend. She sold three and there were only four of us there! My sister came along just for fun, determined she wasn't in the least bit interested. She was sold within the first 10 minutes and bought one!

Gert, how was your raspberry fruity dream? We had mango, which was delicious and I went home and made raspberry in my TM31, but the seeds really spoiled it. The raspberries were frozen. Maybe my blades aren't terribly sharp anymore.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katj on September 30, 2014, 09:28:31 am
Your review was too good Gert, I was hoping for a less glowing report.....Lol
Now I'm tempted also.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Merrilyn on September 30, 2014, 09:30:39 am
Thankyou for such a thorough review Gert.  You answered all the questions I had.  Can't wait for my TM5 to arrive.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: mcmich on September 30, 2014, 09:51:26 am
I placed my order on the 9th September - money was taken from my account on the 11th. No word yet as to delivery date.
It will get here when it gets here. Though, I do think it's a bit cheeky to deduct money before dispatch.

From the reviews above, looks like it will be worth the wait.  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 30, 2014, 09:57:31 am
We just have to chill and wait.  I am going to box mine up to sent to a friend who will take it to India for my DIL. Have to sent it to NSW.. She does not want the varoma so hope I will have room for the extra jug. 

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 30, 2014, 10:06:21 am
Come on CP, give it ago, just start off slow and see how it goes.

nah, might not be able to get a replacement one at this point in time if it gets ruined
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: faffa_70 on September 30, 2014, 11:00:35 am
Great review. I ordered mine on about the 4th September and was told a few days ago it's still 2 weeks away! I'm getting very antsy.

Having another demo at my place in two weeks. The first demo was at my consultant's place - she's a friend. She sold three and there were only four of us there! My sister came along just for fun, determined she wasn't in the least bit interested. She was sold within the first 10 minutes and bought one!

Gert, how was your raspberry fruity dream? We had mango, which was delicious and I went home and made raspberry in my TM31, but the seeds really spoiled it. The raspberries were frozen. Maybe my blades aren't terribly sharp anymore.

I can tell you that even with new blades raspberry sorbet or fruity dream always has a seed problem ... frozen or fresh as well  :( :(
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on September 30, 2014, 11:49:55 am
That is the truth. The TMX does not eliminate the seed problem but I must say  I really loved how the new butterfly gave the fruity dream a mouse like quality.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on September 30, 2014, 12:05:06 pm
Fantastic review thank you I am even more excited now & so look forward to getting my TM. Just wondering do they work by the date you ordered or the date they mark payment received. Mine was ordered on the 11th Sept & payment proceed email on the 17th just wishful thinking on my behalf that it will arrive soon
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: trudy on September 30, 2014, 12:53:34 pm
Great review Gert.  I must say I am tempted but keep telling myself I don't need one!!!  I haven't been to a demo but have seen the butterfly work and I was very impressed.  Not sure how compuer savy one would have to be to use the chip though???
Title: Re: Re: Re: TM5
Post by: Leontine on September 30, 2014, 01:44:49 pm
Come on CP, give it ago, just start off slow and see how it goes.

nah, might not be able to get a replacement one at this point in time if it gets ruined
http://youtu.be/wzKa98wqgZA  here is YouTube movie using new butterfly in the tm31
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on September 30, 2014, 02:31:33 pm
I wonder what she was saying, so much chatter for just whipping egg whites LOL.  Nice to see it does fit the TM31 though, now we'll all want a new butterfly.

Ooops, it was cream.  At first I thought it was but then when she showed it to us, it did look like egg whites ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on September 30, 2014, 02:41:53 pm
Thanks for the answer re the raspberry pips, Faffa. I think I'll defrost raspberries, sieve them, then freeze in ice cube trays for Raspberry Fruity Dream!
Title: Re: Re: Re: TM5
Post by: Leontine on September 30, 2014, 03:22:35 pm
I wonder what she was saying, so much chatter for just whipping egg whites LOL.  Nice to see it does fit the TM31 though, now we'll all want a new butterfly.
She is whiping cream ;) just 200 ml and it turned out better than with de butterfly of the tm31
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on September 30, 2014, 03:44:33 pm
I think she was a consultant cos when she was getting something out of the cupboard she leaned in close and I think she had a silver TM pendant on her necklace.  Good to know the butterfly is interchangeable with the TM31 - it will be the next thing to run out of stock probs  ;)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: I Love TM on September 30, 2014, 03:50:16 pm
That is interesting that the butterfly from the TM5 fits the TM31.  I did try it on but thought it felt too insecure! 
I know a few friends who would want to buy the new butterfly.  Provided I prove it can make great meringues first!!!
Has anyone made perfect meringues in either the TM31 or the TM5 yet?  I mean perfect not passable. 
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on September 30, 2014, 04:15:47 pm
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/25/0af2cf631df1f89295d22c00349302a5.jpg)
CP made meringue in her new TM5 for her delivery demo.
Title: Re:
Post by: Itsnotartitsdinner on September 30, 2014, 09:26:46 pm
Thanks for the review Gert.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on September 30, 2014, 09:52:12 pm
Thanks for the fantastic review Gert. I agree, you probably have a very good consultant.
The configuration at the bottom of the Butterfly is different on the 5 to the 31. I was told that it didn't fit.  However this may by a marketing thing.
If you think the seeds in the Raspberries are a problem,  don't use wild Blackberries. 
I was also told that each machine has a number and this is linked to the buyer.   This is not the case with the 31 in Australia.
If people want to sell their 31 there are people who want good secondhand ones.  I have had 2 offers for mine.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 01, 2014, 03:00:47 am
Great review Gert.  I must say I am tempted but keep telling myself I don't need one!!!  I haven't been to a demo but have seen the butterfly work and I was very impressed.  Not sure how compuer savy one would have to be to use the chip though???

The chip is not really a cumputer like thing. It enables you to see the photos and recipes on the screen. A child could use it easily. Having said that even my DH could use it.

You do not have to know how to use a computer to push a button.


Gert
Title: Re: Re: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 01, 2014, 03:06:23 am
Come on CP, give it ago, just start off slow and see how it goes.

nah, might not be able to get a replacement one at this point in time if it gets ruined
http://youtu.be/wzKa98wqgZA  here is YouTube movie using new butterfly in the tm31

Th at is Stef on the you tube. She must have hundreds of VDO"s on you tube and yes she is a consultant in Germany. I love her style.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on October 01, 2014, 03:27:25 am
Next time I whip up some cream i'm thinking of putting some thick rubber bands around the butterfly , give it a few more vanes, ;D, I'll let you know how it goes, only problem here is we don't eat much cream and you do need to put in about 300mls  I'll have to wait for visitors.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: courton on October 01, 2014, 07:06:03 am
The question I have is this... is cooking in TM5 very different from TM31 (?) since we now have a number of subject headings for swapping recipes using TM5.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: I Love TM on October 01, 2014, 01:32:24 pm
I've only had my TM5 for under 2 weeks, but so far the cooking facility is exactly the same.  I haven't done any cooking that couldn't be done in the TM31.  So far anyway.  The main difference is the touch screen and the guided recipes (which i didn't expect to love, but i do!).  And it being a little quieter and lots more good things.  But no, the scales, time, temperature, cooking speed are all very very similar. 
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 02, 2014, 12:13:59 am
Loved the review Gert...and can not wait to get my first machine, my demo was my consultant's first. He did not have to be impressive the machine did that for him.

 Saw this information on another forum...

For those of you thinking to get one outright or on easy 3 payments options, if you have a Commonwealth bank credit card(Diamond or Platinum award), you will get extra 12 months extended warranty. Also, you can ring up your credit card center as request a Great Rate option with 14 days. This gives you 0.99% interest and you can pay it off in 3 months time. This works out about a few dollars interest over 3 months, which is much cheaper to choose 3 easy payment option which cost you $50 to set up.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 02, 2014, 12:37:50 am
Glad you brought the up essie. I have mentioned to a few that your own credit card provider may provide a better option for  instalment paying than Grace's model.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 02, 2014, 01:02:54 am
if you have a Commonwealth bank credit card(Diamond or Platinum award), you will get extra 12 months extended warranty. Also, you can ring up your credit card center as request a Great Rate option with 14 days. This gives you 0.99% interest and you can pay it off in 3 months time. This works out about a few dollars interest over 3 months, which is much cheaper to choose 3 easy payment option which cost you $50 to set up.
It's easy to forget this when a problem occurs so I have written this fact on a post it note and stuck on my receipt. It's a huge bonus.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 02, 2014, 12:31:58 pm
When cooking from an TM31 recipe and it says Varoma, cook on about 114-120 in the T5.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 02, 2014, 03:33:11 pm
I have really enjoyed my first play with TM 5.  I made the custard quickly with my consultant and then sticky date puddings which I steamed in the Varoma, nothing too taxing. I think it is quieter and I think the new measuring cup ( which fits TM31) helps with muffling the noise also. I love the recipe chip and the ease of following a recipe this way.  I feel anyone who hasn't had a tm31 will find it much easier transitioning to the thermomix way of cooking using this method.
The butterfly certainly appears to fit the TM31 and even locks in.  I hope the accessories are available soon, it would be worth buying a cup and butterfly for the TM 31.
Looking forward to more playtime tomorrow.
I was a little disappointed with the book as many recipes the same as EDC. Cooking for you and me being released as a chip next week ( I think my consultant said)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 02, 2014, 10:21:45 pm
I will be thermomixless as I have to box my TMX31 to send it interstate to a friend who will take it to India for my DIL I am no so happy to say goodbye but happy it will have a wonderful new home.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: JulieO on October 02, 2014, 10:43:35 pm
My dtr ordered one yesterday even though she's not having a demo until the 25th.  Has used mine now and then since I've had it so it's not like it's all new to her.  She was told there's a 3-6 week wait until delivery, which she is okay with.  She also sent me the menu for the demo which sounds nice, I'm looking forward to going.  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on October 02, 2014, 10:47:48 pm
Hi Gert does India have the same power voltage as us?.   I'm sure your lucky DIL will adore  it.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 02, 2014, 11:07:31 pm
Congratulations to all those who have purchased the T5, I'm looking forward to lots of reviews from the chip/book as I'm hoping to get the kids cooking a few more dinner meals using the functionality.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 02, 2014, 11:09:07 pm
I'm sure they will Wonder, I'm looking forward to more chips being available, makes following a new recipe so easy.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 02, 2014, 11:09:41 pm
Yup Brenda. She already has one there but it is not well and she uses it daily in her catering business cooking for devotees who visit Mayapur.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 02, 2014, 11:12:12 pm
my new TM5 is getting delivered this morning, great in time for the weekend, and that I will bve home for 2 weeks after surgery, so I am sure it will get a workout.

I will have to ask about a demo..
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on October 03, 2014, 02:03:15 am
Hi I had a reply from TM this morning & they said my order is currently being picked what does this mean & how do they send/deliver it as I'm going on holiday next week
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on October 03, 2014, 02:28:39 am
Good news Robyn,  but remember you have to rest after surgery
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 03, 2014, 03:03:16 am
NaturalMumma it wasn't being processed was it?  I have no idea what the picked is, unless the person is from NZ and said packed.  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 03, 2014, 03:07:53 am
I've had a play this morning. Made bread, my usual Chookie recipe and then some biscuits from the book/chip. I love not having to go back to the book to look what to put in next.
The new sound is more pleasant, and i think it could be slightly quieter.  DH was on the phone when I used it and he didn't rush off with the phone on his ear to a quieter place.  ;)
I do love the touch controls and the lockable arms, especially for people that may have wrist problems or arthritis.
I'm pleased with my purchase...very pleased.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 03, 2014, 03:14:45 am
I just want to add that as much as I love TM 5 the biggest thrill was receiving TM31 and the magic of how quick and easy presenting fine food became. It hasn't changed dramatically. Tm5 really isn't better( in my humble opinion) it has extra very nice features and gets a bit hotter, but if you are not in a position to afford the newest you  have a machine that does more than expected with TM31.  Be happy.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on October 03, 2014, 03:21:08 am
Thanks it was processed on the 17th Sept & the email I got today just said my order was currently being picked what ever that means seams a mystery
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 03, 2014, 03:45:33 am
NM means they are checking it over and then sending it out. Whoo hoo not long!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 03, 2014, 04:06:52 am
Hi I had a reply from TM this morning & they said my order is currently being picked what does this mean & how do they send/deliver it as I'm going on holiday next week

Picked from the shelf , packed for transport . Picked  and Packed an Americanism.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 03, 2014, 04:48:26 am
Hi I had a reply from TM this morning & they said my order is currently being picked what does this mean & how do they send/deliver it as I'm going on holiday next week

Picked from the shelf , packed for transport . Picked  and Packed an Americanism.

We used picked at work also but it doesn't mean sent. We have our forklift drivers pick orders. They gather all the stock and will put all the pallets together in the warehouse for the next day when the trucks come.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on October 03, 2014, 04:53:02 am
Whatever it means NM, you can take it that when your machine arrives, it has been especially picked for a spot on your kitchen bench  ;)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 03, 2014, 05:05:16 am
My gorgeous, wonderful consultant Meagan, explained to me that each machine is allocated to a particular person. Your name is matched with the serial number of a machine and that one is yours. Consultants can no longer have a spare machine around that they sell people as may have happened before. Now your machine is picked for you, so that may be what they meant. Your machine has been allocated to you and now no one else can have it.
Hopefully it will arrive before you go on holiday.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: goldfish on October 03, 2014, 05:10:02 am
Cookie, that's very interesting. I'd love to know the reasoning behind such a decision.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 03, 2014, 05:17:04 am
updates on chips, i think...
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 03, 2014, 06:47:04 am
I get charged a "picking fee" on linen hire orders - whatever it is, it gives me the pips  :-))

your machine is picked for you, so that may be what they meant. Your machine has been allocated to you and now no one else can have it.


...sounds like a Cabbage Patch baby  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 03, 2014, 06:47:57 am
My consultant told me the same thing and said they believe it's going to be so they can do updates in the future.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 03, 2014, 06:57:53 am
I can see a huge demand for spare bowl sets when released.  Having been fortunate to have had 2 bowls with my 31 for a long time I had forgotten how often you wash up when having a cooking burst.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: JulieO on October 03, 2014, 10:41:03 am
Apparently the price of the T5 will go up $100 on Nov 1st.
Title: Re: Re: Re: TM5
Post by: Jamberie on October 03, 2014, 11:02:33 am
My consultant told me the same thing and said they believe it's going to be so they can do updates in the future.
That's very interesting. ...I wonder how updates would be done?
Wifi? An update chip?  Or plug in?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 03, 2014, 12:00:54 pm
Price rise is $100. Will be on the website on Tuesday apparently.

And now the wait is 6-8 weeks for a TM5. Too many orders around the world and can't keep up with production. Customers will be getting emails about it.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on October 03, 2014, 02:34:33 pm
Apparently mine has been sent yesterday, so I'm assuming Monday/Tuesday will be delivered.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 03, 2014, 03:16:39 pm
I don't know if I'm dreaming but T5 doesn't seem to need wiping down as much
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 03, 2014, 04:20:50 pm
I am a little bit sad to hear about the delay. The money was deducted from my CC last weekend so I had hoped that would mean a speedier delivery. Ahh well.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on October 03, 2014, 10:27:43 pm
Won't be getting mine till after Tassie.  Enjoying all the reviews.  Thanks to all for posting.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 03, 2014, 10:34:58 pm
updates via a app, i was told.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 03, 2014, 10:42:22 pm
My friend who is a consultant posted earlier on FB that stocks are getting near depleted! I've asked for more info as I ordered mine on 18th Sept and was hoping it would be waiting for me when I get back from Hawaii, which is 19th Oct. I won't be a happy camper if it is the case. I can wait an extra week or two but if they have to be imported (along with the seals and BBL that apparently aren't arriving until November) I'll be cranky.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 04, 2014, 12:48:48 am
Here is what will be happening chip wise. No doubt they will add in app purchasing if not a monthly subscription. Nother moneymaking thing and Vorwerk  is now entering into the modern way of marketing. Who knows they may even open actual stores where you can purchase, shop for whatever extras, have cooking lessons and speak to a consultant . Good grief imaging that!

http://thermomix.vorwerk.co.uk/whats-new-2015/

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 04, 2014, 02:12:00 am
That is interesting Gert. It does seem to be cutting out your local consultant though. I wonder how they get their ongoing income? I have made a pact with myself to try and find ways of sending business their way...as ii want to keep them going as long as that is what they want taste well.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 04, 2014, 02:16:38 am
Some errors so far. No doubt more wil be discovered as soon as more experienced people receive their books and chips.

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Hi everyone,

If you have obtained the Basic Cookbook and Recipe Chip, here are the notes to accompany. The below are notes on discrepancies between what is printed in the cookbook and displayed on the recipe chip.

Recipe Chip

Meat stock paste (pg. 64):

The quantity of red wine to use is stated as 30 g on Recipe Chip. For the best results, we recommend increasing the quantity of red wine to 120 g red wine as per the Basic Cookbook. ‘The recipe will work with both quantities of wine, the paste will simply be drier in consistency when using 30 g red wine as per the Chip.’

Chicken stock paste (pg. 66):

The quantity of Mixed white roots and vegetables is listed as 200 g on the Recipe Chip. We recommend increasing the quantity of mixed white roots to 300 g as stated in the Basic Cookbook. The recipe will work with both quantities of vegetables, the paste will simply be drier in consistency when using 200 g vegetables as per the Chip.

Meatloaf with mushroom sauce (pg. 136-138):

Switch to manual cooking mode after adding final sauce ingredients and cook 2 min/80°C/Reverse/speed 1. The sauce will still work without the final cooking time it will simply be a thinner consistency.

Herb and garlic pull-apart (pg. 228)

To reserve the buttermilk from your butter to use in other recipes, strain your butter at the end of step 2. (Cookbook and Recipe Chip)

Home-style sponge cake (pg. 316)

Please insert butterfly before adding your cream in step 8. (Cookbook and Recipe Chip)

Thermomix Head Office
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on October 04, 2014, 02:26:29 am
Thanks Gert, hopefully a letter will be sent to all new owners as I'm sure they are not going to check here before they make a recipe. Not a good start  :-))
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 04, 2014, 03:59:00 am
that is simply wrong to be finding errors already. one would think that every recipe in the book and chip would be thoroughly checked a hundred times over before release. I hope they rectify this error by sending everyone afffected a  new chip once the errors have been corrected  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 04, 2014, 04:12:35 am
this is no difffernt to any other cookbooks on the market, they all have mistakes in them. I read an article once which said that 10% of recipes in cookbooks have some sort of error, apparently some of Nigellas books have up to 30%!!!! It was one of my concerns when I heard about the chip.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 04, 2014, 04:59:02 am
Apparently mine has been sent yesterday, so I'm assuming Monday/Tuesday will be delivered.
When did you order yours? I saw people who ordered once it came out started getting there's but I didn't order till the 21st :(

Alas sometimes mistakes aren't picked up which I learnt first had. I sent a bunch of packaging to print the other day and afterwards when it was too late my Malaysian coworker picked up I was missing the R in source. So next time your at Woolies or Coles and see "souce" it was probably me :P

I do remember a story about a recipe in a magazine that called for 10 tbsps of nutmeg instead of 1 and the whole family died :(
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: goldfish on October 04, 2014, 05:34:39 am
that is simply wrong to be finding errors already. one would think that every recipe in the book and chip would be thoroughly checked a hundred times over before release. I hope they rectify this error by sending everyone afffected a  new chip once the errors have been corrected  >:( >:( >:(

Editors and proofreaders should pay for the cost of rectifying this nonsense out of their own paypacket . . . there should be a relationship between author editor and a TEAM of proofreaders . . even more so these days when computers can decide to hiccup or have a hissy fit.  Just my (not so) humble opinion  :-))
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on October 04, 2014, 05:48:04 am
Back again, I googled Nutmeg and have been side tracked , some interesting reading.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 04, 2014, 10:02:49 am
this is no difffernt to any other cookbooks on the market, they all have mistakes in them.

To a point, yes and to err is only human. However these recipes have been reprinted and reprinted over the years. How long would it take 2 people to read through a recipe slowly and thoroughly and ensure it was correct both in the book and chip?? One of their marketing points is that its ideal for those who can't cook, and all you have to do is follow the chip instructions. This is a revolutionary item they are selling and its beyond me that they've launched it to the world with basic inaccuracies.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 04, 2014, 10:14:01 am
Each recipe in the book should be made by at least 2 independent people to prevent errors. It isn't good enough.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 04, 2014, 11:06:20 am
For those wondering I'm still waiting for an order for a customer from the 11th of Sept (no finance paid up front in full etc). I really hope that is not going to be a 6-8 week wait but will find out next week when the 20 days is up.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 04, 2014, 12:34:04 pm
The devil is in the detail. There are no copy editors , copy readers, double checking or common sense these days. We all know many of the recipes  Vorwerk keep flogging are crap and so many of the recipes posted  in the  recipe community are utter nonsense. Thank goodness for us, our openness and honesty. 

People blatantly take our recipes , add a teaspoon of this or that, steal our photos and claim them as their own.  The way of the world.

Gert

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: courton on October 04, 2014, 01:39:56 pm
Australian Women's Weekly prides itself in triple testing it's recipes... And you know what, they always work!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 04, 2014, 01:47:34 pm
Yes, they do and it's not a hard thing to do. It's annoying tho that these recipes have been triple tested and a lot more besides to be chosen for the basic cookbook and chip, yet there are errors in the proofing. WW never have errors in thus dept either. Just putting it lightly, you would hope that Vorwerk are paying for professional services rather than getting the girl on work experience to do this.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: JulieO on October 04, 2014, 09:38:31 pm
My take on this is if they are saying you can cook from the chip, how frustrating it is now to have to check if there's any corrections (go to the book and see if you've amended the recipe in there as unable to do so on the chip) and follow that instead of what the chip is saying, defeats the purpose I think!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 04, 2014, 10:24:08 pm
My take on this is if they are saying you can cook from the chip, how frustrating it is now to have to check if there's any corrections (go to the book and see if you've amended the recipe in there as unable to do so on the chip) and follow that instead of what the chip is saying, defeats the purpose I think!

And can be a waste of expensive ingredients.

Gert
Title: Re:
Post by: Itsnotartitsdinner on October 04, 2014, 10:28:36 pm
Defeats the purpose of upgrading!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Chocolatte on October 04, 2014, 11:02:14 pm
Australian Women's Weekly prides itself in triple testing it's recipes... And you know what, they always work!

I love AWW recipes. I wish they would put out a cookbook for Thermomix and similar machines. Probably not enough demand for it to be viable for AWW though.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 04, 2014, 11:30:06 pm
I wonder how long it will be before someone finds the technology to duplicate the chip?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Jamberie on October 06, 2014, 07:01:19 am
Would someone with a TM5 and a TM31 carry bag be able to see if the TM5 fits in the TM31 bag please?
My mum is interested in buying a TM5 and am hoping  we could share my TM31 carry bag.
The varoma in the TM5 is bigger but I am wondering if there might be a little bit of room :)
Thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 06, 2014, 07:04:14 am
Jamberie: We were told it didn't and that's why we were given a new bag with the TM5. I can check later tonight. The TM5 is a bit higher than the TM31 so that's probably why.

My 11th of Sept order has been sent out today.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on October 06, 2014, 07:16:24 am
No they won't fit Jamberie. The TM5 is taller. I checked that out at my Demo
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Jamberie on October 06, 2014, 07:38:11 am
Jamberie: We were told it didn't and that's why we were given a new bag with the TM5. I can check later tonight. The TM5 is a bit higher than the TM31 so that's probably why.


Thanks for the speedy replies, I thought that may have been the case but thought I'd ask :)
Does this mean that you got the travel bag free with your purchase Turando?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on October 06, 2014, 07:48:01 am
DD has taken over cooking dinner tonight, TM31 is doing the steamed veggies and TM5 is cooking honey mustard chicken :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 06, 2014, 07:51:52 am
Jamberie: All consultants got a bag with theirs as part of our pack of stuff needed.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 06, 2014, 09:05:39 am
Just got this email  :'( :'(

Quote
We wish to advise that due to the unprecedented worldwide demand for the new Thermomix, there has been a subsequent impact on our expected delivery times.

We want to confirm that your order is still progressing however, the expected time frame from purchase is now 5-8 weeks.

Please be assured that your Thermomix warranty will be automatically extended for an additional 2 months to accommodate this delay.

We apologise for the delay and want to assure you that we are working with Vorwerk to obtain stock as quickly as we can to then arrange deliveries to our customers as soon as possible.

Should you have any queries, please contact your Consultant.

Thank you for your patience.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on October 06, 2014, 09:15:57 am
I would of been disappointed too bluebear. I received mine today. Hope your wait goes quickly for you.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 06, 2014, 09:36:47 am

Just got this email  :'( :'(

Quote
We wish to advise that due to the unprecedented worldwide demand for the new Thermomix, there has been a subsequent impact on our expected delivery times.

We want to confirm that your order is still progressing however, the expected time frame from purchase is now 5-8 weeks.

Please be assured that your Thermomix warranty will be automatically extended for an additional 2 months to accommodate this delay.

We apologise for the delay and want to assure you that we are working with Vorwerk to obtain stock as quickly as we can to then arrange deliveries to our customers as soon as possible.

Should you have any queries, please contact your Consultant.

Thank you for your patience.



Meanwhile Grace has use of all that money they have deposited from customers.  All of this should have been anticipated and if they had a proper lead in as they are having in Canada and the U.S., it all could have been avoided.

If 12000 have been ordered at $2000 a pop and most paid for up front or at least the first instalment has been paid into her account, just think how much money can be made in the short term money market. Wahoo that is a big chunk of change for HO. She will need that to cover the thousands of free jugs and blades  she has had to send in this debacle.

Meanwhile Grace's reputation is trashed. I am sure Vorwerk is none to pleased  with her. What goes around comes around I say.

If it is 8 weeks for those who ordered in Sept then no doubt those who order from now on won't get theirs until after Christmas.

This is be very disappointing for many. Meanwhile the consultants are happy as  they can concentrate on selling without having to do any delivery  demos. And can you imagine trying to get a delivery demo in Dec and Jan  from a brand new consultant who only joined up to get  her TM5. Many will have their kids home or they will be on holidays. Me thinks the "Thermomix Service" will be out the window. This will be ongoing for many months. 

The genuine good consultants must be copping it and will be very disillusioned indeed especially after many were lied to by their GLs, area managers and State managers as well as the staff who lied in HO.

This all was hardly a secret in Europe especially.  If anyone thinks that factory workers  making the machines were deaf dumb and blind they are dreaming.

What a mess.

Gert


Title: Re: TM5
Post by: charlieboy on October 06, 2014, 09:43:06 am
I received the delay email as well.  I emailed back asking them to explain why it is that I was charged in full when I ordered just over a week ago when dispatch may not be until up to 2 months away.  I find this part the most difficult to accept.  Is this normal practice for other businesses?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 06, 2014, 09:45:30 am
bluebear: What date did you order/payment processed? Trying to work out if some of my orders are affected.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 06, 2014, 09:49:20 am
I look forward to that reply Charlieboy. They no doubt already have a form letter for that in the system.

To words come to mind. Short and curlies.

i can only imagine the back up as many more thousands order by the end of the month.

Anyone know what the October incentive is? Haven't seen that yet.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: charlieboy on October 06, 2014, 09:57:46 am
I look forward to that reply Charlieboy. They no doubt already have a form letter for that in the system.

To words come to mind. Short and curlies.

i can only imagine the back up as many more thousands order by the end of the month.

Anyone know what the October incentive is? Haven't seen that yet.

Gert

I am just hoping that if enough people fire up about them charging too soon, along with the considerable delay, they might be forced to do something :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 06, 2014, 10:01:58 am

Just got this email  :'( :'(

Quote
We wish to advise that due to the unprecedented worldwide demand for the new Thermomix, there has been a subsequent impact on our expected delivery times.

We want to confirm that your order is still progressing however, the expected time frame from purchase is now 5-8 weeks.

Please be assured that your Thermomix warranty will be automatically extended for an additional 2 months to accommodate this delay.

We apologise for the delay and want to assure you that we are working with Vorwerk to obtain stock as quickly as we can to then arrange deliveries to our customers as soon as possible.

Should you have any queries, please contact your Consultant.

Thank you for your patience.


Meanwhile Grace has use of all that money they have deposited from customers.  All of this should have been anticipated and if they had a proper lead in as they are having in Canada and the U.S., it all could have been avoided.

Exactly! Brother was telling me that Dad doesn't have to enough to pay of his CC (both mine and aunt's were put on his card because he gets reward points). Still no TM5 is sight.

bluebear: What date did you order/payment processed? Trying to work out if some of my orders are affected.
I don't know exactly (as above, I used my Dad's CC), but my order was put through on the 21st of Oct. If that helps.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 06, 2014, 10:03:23 am
I think everyone should just chill and go with the flow. As soon as HO have them we will have them.  It will all be worth the wait. I have no issue with the fabulous machine just the business ethics are lacking.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on October 06, 2014, 10:10:01 am
I received my email as well. The wait doesn't really worry me, I have my TM31 and with all the crap going on in the world today, waiting for another Thermomix isn't really a big problem.

BUT I fail to see how a multi million dollar company that basically has one product to sell doesn't know how many of the said product they have to sell and how long it will take to receive delivery of the next shipment from the factory, even with a world wide shortage. I'm sure a week ago when they took my order and my payment, they would have known they couldn't supply in the quoted 20 working days.

Finding out about the delay on social media days before the official email is poor form, as is telling customers to talk to consultants if they have issues - the poor consultants have had enough to cope with lately.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 06, 2014, 10:19:45 am
Thanks :) yes it does. Looks like it will affect them so better let them know.
Title: Re:
Post by: Itsnotartitsdinner on October 06, 2014, 12:46:22 pm
It's disgraceful! How can they charge the full amount and sit on your money for up to two months. Delay intentional? Trying to build demand for the product.  Communication totally poor form. One would have thought they would have "personally" contacted every client to advise of delay.  Not leave them guessing and disgruntled. Wouldn't you as a company aim to rebuild customer service image after tarnishing it so much. Flabbergasted!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 06, 2014, 12:50:31 pm
Poor form all round. I don't think too many people expect full payment 6 weeks in advance.

I made the Butter Chicken ( from the chip) tonight.  We had a very busy, brain boggling day selecting everything for our house. I must say to have the recipe line by line, on the screen was very helpful.  I don't think the flavour is as good as Nico's or the Indian cookbook but certainly good for a weeknight meal.
I also tried the automated rice cooking (along side tm31, steaming uncontaminated, from chicken, rice) it took a bit longer but the end result was equal to TM31's. TM5 makes a bit more.
Great quick and easy dinner.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 06, 2014, 12:55:05 pm
Poor form all round. I don't think too many people expect full payment 6 weeks in advance.

I made the Butter Chicken ( from the chip) tonight.  We had a very busy, brain boggling day selecting everything for our house. I must say to have the recipe line by line, on the screen was very helpful.  I don't think the flavour is as good as Nico's or the Indian cookbook but certainly good for a weeknight meal.
I also tried the automated rice cooking (along side tm31, steaming uncontaminated, from chicken, rice) it took a bit longer but the end result was equal to TM31's. TM5 makes a bit more.
Great quick and easy dinner.
My consultant told me not to make the Butter Chicken from the EDC because it's bland, however I read the new cookbooks is better?

I'm glad I have my TM31 (though the person who is buying it from me probably hopes I get my TM5 soon) my brother doesn't have a TM31 and joked there will be a new model by the time he gets his TM5!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 06, 2014, 07:33:13 pm
Yep just woke up in Hawaii and found the dreaded email! Not happy.

I'm extremely fortunate to be able to pay cash and I already have a TM31 but it is extremely bad form to accept full payment with the promise of 20 working days then not deliver.

Surely Vorwerk Australia would have had some idea of the stock they required and been more prepared? This is another reason why I bought my last one from overseas! I would have done so again but the computer chip worried me enough to have an Australian warranty.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on October 06, 2014, 09:27:23 pm
I love the idea that during cooking with the TM5 you can drop the temperature, yesterday while making double batch of honey mustard chicken at 100 degrees it started bubbling through the MC hole, so I just dropped it down to 98 without having to stop the machine which fixed the issue.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: mcmich on October 06, 2014, 09:52:26 pm
I received this message from Thermomix yesterday.


Dear Michele

Re: Order Number 625021

We wish to advise that due to the unprecedented worldwide demand for the new Thermomix, there has been a subsequent impact on our expected delivery times.

We want to confirm that your order is still progressing however, the expected time frame from purchase is now 5-8 weeks.

Please be assured that your Thermomix warranty will be automatically extended for an additional 2 months to accommodate this delay.

We apologise for the delay and want to assure you that we are working with Vorwerk to obtain stock as quickly as we can to then arrange deliveries to our customers as soon as possible.

Should you have any queries, please contact your Consultant.

Thank you for your patience.

Regards,

Thermomix in Australia  
30 Ledgar Rd BALCATTA WA 6021


So looks like I will be using the food processor for a bit longer yet. I'm still glad that I ordered it though and feel I sold my TMX31 for a good price. I will be so excited when I do take delivery of it, I may have to plan to take annual leave to play with it.  

  

 
  
 
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on October 06, 2014, 10:18:28 pm
I received this message from Thermomix yesterday.


Dear Michele

Re: Order Number 625021

I have no idea how they are doing their orders as it looks like mine is after yours my order no 637878‏
I have not got the email yet & have every think crossed I don't. My order was done on the 12th Sept paid in full via bank deposit we only could afford as my partner got a work cover payout & was processed by TM on the 17th Sept then the 3rd Oct I was told it was being picked. My consultant  emailed me last night letting me know she is following it up today to find out if & when it will be dispatched. It is just terrible & TM is laughing all the way to the bank
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on October 06, 2014, 10:23:40 pm
:(
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on October 06, 2014, 10:34:52 pm
Sorry my post has come out funny I tried to ad quote. There just seams no set order to how people are getting them a part of me thinks I should have bought a secondhand TM31 but my partner thought it was better getting a new one due to a few hundred dollar difference. I'm sure once we get all our machines we will be happy I have never known a company to take money of full & to us this is a huge amount of money then have to wait 2 months for the goods & even more crazy people keep buying. I dread when I see a new email in my box
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 06, 2014, 10:36:04 pm
I love the idea that during cooking with the TM5 you can drop the temperature, yesterday while making double batch of honey mustard chicken at 100 degrees it started bubbling through the MC hole, so I just dropped it down to 98 without having to stop the machine which fixed the issue.

That is handy.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on October 07, 2014, 12:04:33 am
I fixed your post for you NM.

I can reduce the temperature on the TM31 during cooking too, if it's on 100o I just press 90o and it will go down in a short time. I've never stopped the machine to reduce temperature ;)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: mcmich on October 07, 2014, 12:10:49 am
Sorry my post has come out funny I tried to ad quote. There just seams no set order to how people are getting them a part of me thinks I should have bought a secondhand TM31 but my partner thought it was better getting a new one due to a few hundred dollar difference. I'm sure once we get all our machines we will be happy I have never known a company to take money of full & to us this is a huge amount of money then have to wait 2 months for the goods & even more crazy people keep buying. I dread when I see a new email in my box

Well that's interesting NM. I've got my fingers crossed that you don't receive the email and take delivery soon.
I ordered on the 9th and full payment processed on the 11th.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 07, 2014, 12:25:18 am
That is true Judy but being able to turn it down to just under boiling is handy.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 07, 2014, 01:23:51 am
I am sorry Mich.  it's not too often you feel advantaged living in the West but I think I ordered a couple of days after you.  You will love it, I certainly do.  Just a shame it hasn't been managed better.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: mcmich on October 07, 2014, 01:46:26 am
Thanks Denise, I'm really starting to miss TMX now. Luckily I have borrowed a food processor. I'm not the only one and I'm not upset by it. TMX is a good product and worth the wait.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: dede on October 07, 2014, 02:28:27 am
My daughter has noticed that the new thermomix doesn't have a capital T at the beginning, where Thermomix 31 does lol. Not something I would of spotted :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 07, 2014, 02:33:47 am
My order number is 798314 and was processed on the 18/9 so the numbers seem to be all over the shop.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 07, 2014, 02:41:15 am
The order numbers are not according to order. Consultants get manual order forms which you would have noticed with numbers on them and when we enter them into the system we input the same number as the paper form and that is your order #. The only way it works in order is through date of payment processed is the most important thing. So someone might have order numbers starting with 6XXX and others with 7XXX etc.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 07, 2014, 02:41:39 am
I am sorry Mich.  it's not too often you feel advantaged living in the West but I think I ordered a couple of days after you.  You will love it, I certainly do.  Just a shame it hasn't been managed better.

What we need is an East Coast Distributor who is  savvy and is ethical. Canada has a population of around 35,000,000 and they have two distributors. Maybe I will write another letter to Vorwerk though they never replied to my last two.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 07, 2014, 02:43:20 am
I love the 98. I use it regularly to stop stuff spluttering everywhere.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 07, 2014, 02:46:13 am
I ordered on the 9th September. I'm pleased I have Mr T5. I feel very sorry for those who have that amount of money outstanding for so long before they receive their machines.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 07, 2014, 02:48:13 am
Here here Gert! There is too big of a area for just one distribution channel - obviously Grace Mazur loves the control she has but this debacle has shown the need for more distribution nationwide. When you look at the size of Australia it just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 07, 2014, 03:03:58 am
Here here Gert! There is too big of a area for just one distribution channel - obviously Grace Mazur loves the control she has but this debacle has shown the need for more distribution nationwide. When you look at the size of Australia it just doesn't make sense.

While Grace is selling 10,000+  a month I doubt Vorwerk will do anything about her contract but when they realise how many of their  customers are unhappy with her methods they may change their minds and solicit a new distributor. I know there is some interest and overtures  have been made.

There is a lot of politicking going on about the distribution coming in the US. People flying all over the place. Interesting times.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: lonnie on October 07, 2014, 04:18:48 am
My TM5 was delivered this morning - I'm looking forward to spending some time using it over the next few days  :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: mcmich on October 07, 2014, 08:00:02 am
Great Lonnie, where abouts are you?

I agree Gert, an east coast distributer would be awesome.  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 07, 2014, 08:55:17 am
That's good news Lonnie.Have fun  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: lonnie on October 07, 2014, 09:28:23 am
Great Lonnie, where abouts are you?

In the ACT, mcmich :)
I ordered on 9/9, and payment was processed 11/9.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: lonnie on October 07, 2014, 09:28:54 am
That's good news Lonnie.Have fun  ;D

Thank you Denise, I've had fun with it today :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 07, 2014, 09:57:25 am
CC is there any of this happening in the UK?  I read on Facebook today someone asking unhappy thermomix people to go to a site and lower the rating of the machine. I think it's getting a bit silly.  Customer service certainly isn't very good and should get improved but the machine is wonderful.  Just interested to see if UK has "run" out also?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 07, 2014, 10:59:24 am
I don't know if there is a problem with delivery here Denise.Maybe Nik might know.When I ordered mine it arrived within 48 hours.I'm still waiting for my second bowl though.I have paid for it but when I phoned recently they have no idea when they will be in stock.I did ask if we were talking weeks or months and he had no idea :-))
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 07, 2014, 02:29:21 pm
I called today as I never received the welcome email and had no paperwork (gorgeous newbie consultant). The poor lady sounded really frazzled when I picked up the phone. In any case it took a phonecall and a couple of  emails to sort out a mismatched email address but by the end I had a reply on a direct email account from the customer service person.
Sure I am not happy about the wait, but I am two weeks closer to getting my first thermomix then I was two weeks ago.
I just hope that they also pay my consultant at the end of the month as he had to perform at my demonstration..and if he has to wait for payment till delivery that does not seem fair.
Does anyone know how that part works?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 07, 2014, 02:53:43 pm
Consultants get paid at the start of each month for the previous month so he will get paid his commission :) If you did 3 part payment then he gets paid over 2 payments from memory instead of one whole payment (one half at the first and 2nd half on your last payment).
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on October 07, 2014, 09:25:38 pm
I've asked for a second bowl but told not until next year.  Will be pleased to get mine whenever it arrives.  No hurry,  still love my 31.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cuilidh on October 07, 2014, 11:23:02 pm
Sadly, this thread is beginning to sound like the earlier one that was terminated ... nothing good being said about TM in Australia.  I have said this before, and would be happy to be proven incorrect, but I believe it is not exactly legal for money to be taken before an order is despatched.  I am very sorry to hear all these upset members, it certainly leaves a bitter taste in your mouth and it must be so very disappointing for you all after all the hype.  I am more than happy with my TM31 and see no reason to change it, but understand how all those waiting for the TM5 must be feeling.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 08, 2014, 12:21:34 am
I think we are all pretty happy with our wonderful Thermomix no matter what the number. We are a pretty well balanced group I think except a few who are totally unbalanced as we know which makes the balanced ones  a bit more off side than the unbalanced ones if you know your scales.

I do believe I know which side I fall or rise on as the case may be.


Gert

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 08, 2014, 12:22:11 am
Yesterday's issue re the seal fiasco.

http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1063922

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: astarra on October 08, 2014, 12:27:49 am
I agree I would not be the happiest with the wait either ,but it just reminds me of miss3 and her starting Kinder...as the cut off date here in Tas is 1st Jan, and she won't be 4 til the 10th of Jan, she is only going into pre-kinder next year, when her little friend who is just 11 days older will be starting kinder.... and it really is not going to matter. (tho the kinder teachers have told me she is well and truely ready for kinder, the cut of date is there and I can't do a thing about it so we wait and get on with life) :D
Sorry, bit OT I know  :-[
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Shellbo on October 08, 2014, 01:18:11 am
Does anyone know what the October offer is? Or is it the same as September until they increase the price and have a November offer??
I'm wanting to buy one, but trying to figure out the timing to benefit me most.
Thanks
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 08, 2014, 01:47:16 am
Does anyone know what the October offer is? Or is it the same as September until they increase the price and have a November offer??
I'm wanting to buy one, but trying to figure out the timing to benefit me most.
Thanks
Have TM always had an offer every single month?

I have a feeling there might not be any offers for awhile because their selling so many right now. Why give something free to entice people when there are already lots of people "enticed" and they don't have to? If they do, I don't think it'll be till they catch up with their backlog of orders. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on October 08, 2014, 02:26:05 am
I am on the verge of cancelling mine & buying a second hand one. They may be great machines but I am not willing to be given a different story or unclear answers from a company. After getting an email Friday telling me it was being picked now told wait till Friday to see if I will get an email as if I have to wait 5 to 8 weeks. I'm sorry I am just not willing to line the pockets of such a dishonest company regardless of it being the bees knees of kitchen appliances.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: ThermomixBlogger on October 08, 2014, 03:04:14 am
This has always been a great forum, but this thread in particular is fantastic. I find that each reply is more interesting than the previous! I love how all perspectives seem to be "spot on!" ... even the OT comment above about kids in Kinder, while off topic did make total sense and relates perfectly to the situation. As noted, this is such a reasonable and "balanced" bunch (more or less, as noted by Gretchen!), it makes for such an awesome support group. :-*

I'm watching things unfold from my seat in Canada which some people say is an enviable position. I can tell you though, that it too has its complications: demonstrators here have been told the machine is coming but no idea when. No month, no year even. :-)) With the overwhelming shortages in other countries it makes me wonder how they will ever get around to making them for the Canadian market. We are such a teeny tiny market, it's not surprising that we should come last, but it would be nice to know "when", so that consultants could tell their prospective clients something at least.

I'm a little bit surprised that Vorwerk is unprepared for the sales volume generated by the TM5. I read somewhere that there have been about 12,000 sold in AU in the first month. Is this surprising? I think not, given that most consultants a) need to get the new machine or b) want the new machine. And how many consultants are there in AU? If we do the math, these sales figures are not that surprising at all. (imho)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cuilidh on October 08, 2014, 03:17:55 am
Is that your crystal "bowl" you are holding up there, Helene?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Shellbo on October 08, 2014, 04:15:36 am
Thanks Bluebear you could be right...
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 08, 2014, 06:00:36 am
The latest  news is that a consultant told her customers that Grace was up to 16,500.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: ThermomixBlogger on October 08, 2014, 06:47:47 am
LOL Cuilidh, I wish! :D If it were my crystal bowl, I might be able to see into the future and know when TM5 will be sold on my continent  ;)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 08, 2014, 07:52:03 am
I would love to know how many machines were initially sent, how many consultants were given one and then how many were left to sell? Surely they would have known how popular the machines would be based on previous sales leading up to the launch.

As an example, we own a caryard. We are a small business but employee 10 staff. We knew we were going to be away for a month. Therefore my husband ensured the yard was fully stocked. I ensured the stock was all entered and all correct with all information that was needed for our salesmen to sell. It's not rocket science, it's just good business practice. Yes our overdraft took a hit stocking the yard but a month later we would be running back as normal.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on October 08, 2014, 08:07:24 am
I just got off the phone from my consultant & they have been sold out world wide & orders places 14 & 15th Sept are currently being picked for dispatch & any orders now are a 6 to 8 week wait due to selling 4 times the amount then expected
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 08, 2014, 08:31:46 am
I would love to know how many machines were initially sent, how many consultants were given one and then how many were left to sell? Surely they would have known how popular the machines would be based on previous sales leading up to the launch.

As an example, we own a caryard. We are a small business but employee 10 staff. We knew we were going to be away for a month. Therefore my husband ensured the yard was fully stocked. I ensured the stock was all entered and all correct with all information that was needed for our salesmen to sell. It's not rocket science, it's just good business practice. Yes our overdraft took a hit stocking the yard but a month later we would be running back as normal.

I understand Kyton, you look after your clients and the rest looks after itself!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 08, 2014, 08:49:21 am
Bedlam I know, it's just so frustrating as a business owner.

Naturalmumma that will be interesting as my order was processed and paid in full on the 17th so I "should" still be on track for the next 2wks or so. We don't leave Hawaii until the 18/10 so that will be absolutely fine if it pans out.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 08, 2014, 09:23:12 am
CC did you receive a "welcome email" or are you like me and didn't receive that sort of stuff?  I gave my order and $$$$ the the lovely Meagan and approx 20 days down the track she rang me. I realise I am a lucky chook.
Kyton if what they say about machines being picked specifically for people ( the serial number allocated to you ) yours will await you and not be able to be given to anyone else.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 08, 2014, 09:34:46 am
I officially placed my order on 17th September, my consultant says she hasn't heard anything and I haven't received an email so will just wait and see what happens. I'm hoping i don't have to wait  approximately double the time i was told but if i do it's not a probem, i wasn't planning on selling my TM31 until around Christmas so am not inconveinenced at all.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 08, 2014, 04:37:09 pm
CC did you receive a "welcome email" or are you like me and didn't receive that sort of stuff? 
No email for me either Cookie.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Meagan on October 08, 2014, 04:57:13 pm
CC did you receive a "welcome email" or are you like me and didn't receive that sort of stuff?  I gave my order and $$$$ the the lovely Meagan and approx 20 days down the track she rang me. I realise I am a lucky chook.
Kyton if what they say about machines being picked specifically for people ( the serial number allocated to you ) yours will await you and not be able to be given to anyone else.

Cookie didn't you get an email from Thermomix? Not even one when your order was placed by me with the terms and conditions of purchase and an invoice?? That is strange as the ordering system is supposed to be automated so that each person receives these things? Have you checked both your email addresses?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 08, 2014, 09:06:23 pm
Meagan, I didn't receive an order confirmation from Thermomix - should I contact them or just wait?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on October 08, 2014, 09:25:18 pm
I received an email, with a copy of the invoice, receipt for payment & the t&c's. I think it arrived the day after I placed my order.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 08, 2014, 10:03:43 pm
Meagan, I didn't receive an order confirmation from Thermomix - should I contact them or just wait?
Maybe your consultant put your email down wrong?

I got a email with my order the night I ordered mine.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Nikkit on October 08, 2014, 11:35:31 pm
The latest  news is that a consultant told her customers that Grace was up to 16,500.

Gert

Do the maths on that ...  :o :o :o :o :o

How many have not been delivered - and won't be for another 5-8 weeks, but the money taken?

Whooo eeeee!

This has been an interesting read, I've run out of popcorn!  :-)) ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 09, 2014, 03:59:40 am
Doesn't the popcorn make you cough Nikkit?

Meagan I did receive a receipt, and notification of the order. I didn't really class it as a welcome from HO. I am not fussed by it. I feel I have all the necessary documentation, the receipt and my T5. He is busy making yoghurt at the moment. I keep watching, 8 hours is a long time to watch, I think I had better go out.
Did I say I love Mr T5. He seems to make things smoother. I made short pastry last night and it was SHORT. I will put up the review. Meagan he is a star. THANK YOU.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Nikkit on October 09, 2014, 04:34:11 am
Not if you eat it while drinking cookie. ;D

And I wasn't drinking a cuppa tea either!  :-))
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 09, 2014, 07:34:16 am
I got a email today advising about the cooking for you and me on chip, advertising RC, and cooking classes.
I am already on the list from the TM31..
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Thermesa on October 09, 2014, 11:47:23 pm
I've decided to order at the end of the month. It won't make it come quicker but will keep money in my account longer. Gives my aunt more time to save the money to buy my 31. She thinks the main reason she wants a thermomix is to mill grain. I think she will surprise herself. DH certainly agrees that the Thermomix is not a white elephant in my kitchen. If my coffee machine dies apparently it won't be replaced until I extend the house and redo the kitchen with an integrated coffee machine. That makes TM5 seem very affordable.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 10, 2014, 01:22:37 am
LOL
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on October 10, 2014, 05:47:34 am
I got a text msg today saying mine was sent today from Perth sadly we left for holiday yesterday so will have to wait until the end of the month when we get home. In the mean time I am saving recipes that I like, can't wait to get cooking
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: zebby on October 10, 2014, 07:02:31 am
I wouldn't buy a TMX to mill grain - I'd buy a grain mill - in fact I have a friend who bought a TMX THEN a frain mill, just like I bought my juicer AFTER the TMX. It is a good machine but it does most things at 80-90% quality of a specialised machine so if you are using it for specific things it might be better to get the proper machines for them.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Thermesa on October 10, 2014, 10:12:14 am
I don't use my juicer at all now. It is waiting to find a new home. I admit I was surprised she didn't have grain mill already but I guess limited income, and appliance that does lots fairly well is better than no appliance or a bucket load of single purpose appliances.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 10, 2014, 12:28:07 pm
It will be something to look forward to after the holiday NaturalMumma.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Meagan on October 11, 2014, 02:22:16 pm
Doesn't the popcorn make you cough Nikkit?

Meagan I did receive a receipt, and notification of the order. I didn't really class it as a welcome from HO. I am not fussed by it. I feel I have all the necessary documentation, the receipt and my T5. He is busy making yoghurt at the moment. I keep watching, 8 hours is a long time to watch, I think I had better go out.
Did I say I love Mr T5. He seems to make things smoother. I made short pastry last night and it was SHORT. I will put up the review. Meagan he is a star. THANK YOU.

Hmmm interesting, glad you got the email and T&C at least! I am pretty sure that you are also meant to get a welcome letter as well. Glad you are enjoying Mr T5  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Meagan on October 11, 2014, 02:23:19 pm
Meagan, I didn't receive an order confirmation from Thermomix - should I contact them or just wait?

Wonder I Would just email or call your consultant. They will have a record of the order lodged on the portal. When did you order?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bon on October 11, 2014, 11:18:12 pm
Hi All
Awaiting my Tm5 and wanted some advice on recipe books.I am a sucker for the pretty pictures but realistically would like to purchase ones that I will actually use. I have been using a Thermochef  for a year, been using the EDC, your forum, as well as the Recipe community  for recipe ideas.I am not a hugely adventurous cook (have got much better using thermo cooking though) and need to feed 2 teenage sons and a hubby. None of us has allergies but I have enjoyed some of Quirky Cooking's recipes, so wondered about Jo's book as well as Tenina's Keeping it Simple and For Foods Sake (get both or which is better). Any advice or suggestions welcomed Thanks
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 11, 2014, 11:52:01 pm
I love Tenina's recipes. They always work. Not fond of the crio bru stuff but  I work around it.

I am not at all fond of the recipe community with a lot of untested, amateurish and simply bad recipes plus a lot of them are stolen from this forum and badly tweaked. Vorwerk recipes tend to be bland and for the everyman or woman as the case may be.

I use recipes that have been tried and tested by the honest members here. If there is a problem we can fix it. We give honest reviews and we love to help so don't go spending your money of books you may not to use. Quirky Joes yes indeed and Tenina's for sure. You can find lots of lovely recipes that have been tested at superkitchenmachine.com

Some of our members have blogs which you will see in their signatures. If you are looking for something just ask. If you want to convert something and are having trouble just ask.

I would hold off buying anything until you soo what is on the recipe chip.And see how you go the the Thermomix.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on October 11, 2014, 11:58:21 pm
Don't forget our list of URL links to many Thermomix blogs as well.

http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=8228.0
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 12, 2014, 12:46:42 am
I have used Nico Moretti's book "cooking for friends" a lot. And "keeping it simple" is my fave if I had to make a choice out of "for foods sake" but they're both great.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on October 12, 2014, 01:41:50 am
Bon,  a lot of the recipes are on line.  Why not try a few of Jo and Tenina's.  See what you like before you buy.  Both have great recipes and they work.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katj on October 12, 2014, 11:03:28 am
Bon, check your local library first. I live in  South of Perth and our library has Tenina's  books. I have had them out several times. Nice recipes.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 12, 2014, 02:20:32 pm
The library, that is a great idea.,I live within walking distance..so I should walk there so I can try more recipes.:)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Fenix on October 13, 2014, 07:54:21 am
Just thought I'd chime in here.... have been waiting for the TM5 to come out for a couple of months and got stuffed around by a friend when putting the order in on day one, and eventually got my order through on the 27/09... it's October and I'm sitting here crossing my fingers that I'll get it before xmas.

It's almost amusing at how popular this machine is.... Any other kitchenware company would be DYING to have this sort of demand on their product and here vorwerk are just paddling along getting to orders when they get to them with very very little support/updates. I'm sure it's insanely busy from the top down but sheesh they must be sitting pretty with all the revenue they're getting.

I know once I get my hands on it I'll forget this wait ever existed but it's pretty frustrating for now.

At the end of the day each and every one of us is parting with 2k for a super duper kitchen appliance and I just find it amazing at how blazay the support is.... I'd really love to just go and buy one from somewhere else but alas, no choice :)

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 13, 2014, 09:52:07 pm
yes I have my TM5, but don't like the direct selling method.
wish you could just walk into a shop and buy one.

I ordered sight unseen for the 3rd time, hope the demo next week is ok.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 13, 2014, 10:17:31 pm
What concerns you about direct selling Obbie?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 13, 2014, 10:41:11 pm
I'm with obbie, I wish I could have just walked in a shop to buy one. I don't like having to hold a demo etc and I feel there's more pressure to buy when there's a consultant because you don't want to have wasted their time and you know they don't earn a cent if they don't make a sale.

I was lucky and my friend held a demo and I bought my TM31 then, and my consultant was really nice so I felt OK holding a demo to get the Thermo Server. I did feel like I was wasting her time though because I wasn't sure how interested people I invited were, worked out in the end, I bought the TM5 as well as my Aunty and brother (so her time wasn't wasted at all!).
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 14, 2014, 01:39:56 am
Just some feedback on the Basic Cookbook photograps in the "Desserts and Sweets" section. I don't feel tempted to try the lamingtons as I grew up with cube shaped lamingtons, those ones look like they failed to rise. The chocolate fondant cake is probably meant to look like this, but to me it looks undercooked and a gooey mess. Too easy chocolate cake looks like it was put in a tin that's too large and didn't rise, resembles a slice. Apple Tart looks a bit dry, some presence of cream somewhere would make it look more appetising. We eat with our eyes, and I don't find these photos enticing. Just saying  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 14, 2014, 02:38:57 am
I am not surprised at all. Food photography is tricky and Vorwerk is pretty hopeless at it in any case. They probably use their uncles cousin twice removed and a bit dim at that as we know from their previous cookbook productions.  Bet they miss Tenina and her professionalism. She would have done a splendid job . They should employ her to do the new Canadian and US books and chips.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 14, 2014, 02:51:09 am
Essie, alot of consultants only stay to sell their 6 machines then quit.

there is no backup  or customer service from some consultants, if they did not sell your machine.

my 2nd consultant who delivered my TM5 has resigned, as she is too busy.
so i meet my 3rd next week.  Hope she is good, and stays around. :)

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: JulieO on October 14, 2014, 04:35:26 am
Duplicated post - removed  :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 14, 2014, 06:24:31 am
And the Shonky goes To .........

http://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/home-garden/thermomix-awarded-a-choice-shonky-for-shredding-public-trust/story-fnhlcy0t-1227089873975

Nearly spilled me beer!  Vorwerk must be so pleased....

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on October 14, 2014, 07:41:35 am
go Gert.  i tried to post this about 2 hours ago,  but couldn't get in .  think it is the high winds we are having today.  I think it is a shame as it is such a fantastic machine.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on October 14, 2014, 08:13:23 am
I"m actually really glad I went to a demo. I also had a delivery demo which was similar as I invited others to come. I learned so much about the machine that otherwise would have taken me ages to figure out on my own.

I agree with your comments re the photos, CP, but at least they have a photo for every recipe in this book! To be fair, the Too Easy Chocolate Cake is a small cake. It should have been made in a small ring tin. The Chocolate Fondant Cake is better made as individual fondant cakes.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: maddy on October 14, 2014, 08:22:47 am
Gert....I love your posts  :-*

SOOO, who's shocked that the TM5 will be $2089.00 from November 1st.....am I allowed to post that mods??
I must say, I thought it would be more.

Went to demo on Friday....very impressed & keen...but haven't ordered it yet  :o shocked??  :P
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Naturalmumma on October 14, 2014, 08:26:20 am
I have never seen a demo or even meet my consultant, I found her details on the TM site as she was running cooking class near me & I emailed her saying I want to buy the new machine & no interested in a demo. It was all done via email & phone. The closest I have got to a TM in real life so far is seeing it on a bench at a couple of houses I used to clean. I have owned a Bellini KM in the past so TM can'y be much different to use only 1000 times better. Are demos & the cooking classes the same thing? do they show you the same thing I mean
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 14, 2014, 08:28:58 am
I'm shocked Maddy, I thought it would be at least $500 more. The machine's biggest market is in the domestic sector so they wouldn't be able to add on too much as they'd price themselves out of the market a bit. Here I was thinking that I would be saving significantly by jumping in early, but having said that I have no regrets cos I love it.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: maddy on October 14, 2014, 08:33:31 am
I think the facebook rants will flare up again  :P

Salt....wounds...too soon?  ;)

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: mcmich on October 14, 2014, 08:37:06 am
I have good news,  ;D My TMX5 has arrived and I will take delivery of it tomorrow afternoon after work.  ;D Exactly 5 weeks from when I ordered.

My consultant - the 3rd one for me is a gorgeous lady that demonstrates in Newcastle and I had the privilege of nursing her husband.
She is so bubbly and full of life. DH and I have been to several of her demonstrations and love her to bits.  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 14, 2014, 08:38:17 am
Just watched the early news on the ABC where the Shonky's are mentioned and footage of the TM5 was featured.

Goes to show that lying to your customers is never a good thing.  It is not the machine that gets the Shonky.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: mcmich on October 14, 2014, 08:41:28 am

Goes to show that lying to your customers is never a good thing.  It is not the machine that gets the Shonky.

Gert

Exactly, the TMX is a good, reliable machine. It's the service that leaves a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 14, 2014, 09:13:27 am
I have good news,  ;D My TMX5 has arrived and I will take delivery of it tomorrow afternoon after work.  ;D Exactly 5 weeks from when I ordered.

My consultant - the 3rd one for me is a gorgeous lady that demonstrates in Newcastle and I had the privilege of nursing her husband.
She is so bubbly and full of life. DH and I have been to several of her demonstrations and love her to bits.  ;D

Lovely Michelle. I am soooo missing my machine. A bit lost in the kitchen.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 14, 2014, 12:31:22 pm
I have never seen a demo or even meet my consultant, I found her details on the TM site as she was running cooking class near me & I emailed her saying I want to buy the new machine & no interested in a demo. It was all done via email & phone. The closest I have got to a TM in real life so far is seeing it on a bench at a couple of houses I used to clean. I have owned a Bellini KM in the past so TM can'y be much different to use only 1000 times better. Are demos & the cooking classes the same thing? do they show you the same thing I mean

Off subject here.
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Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 14, 2014, 12:32:16 pm
Does anyone know how they work out when they process your order.? Some people have got one within 12 days( 3 customers in qld)...other people are taking five weeks.... and some even more? It just seems a little odd..and I the end I guess it does not matter. I still have a stove, an oven , food processor etc.  :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 14, 2014, 01:03:23 pm
I a pleased I saved a little by buying T5 early. I love it to bits. I find I am using both machines a lot. Tonight one steamed veggies, while the other cooked the rice.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katj on October 14, 2014, 01:14:24 pm
I heard about the Choice Shonky awards on the radio today while driving to DD's. Wasn't sure I heard right, so got on the website later today.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 14, 2014, 09:49:26 pm
Does anyone know how they work out when they process your order.? Some people have got one within 12 days( 3 customers in qld)...other people are taking five weeks.... and some even more? It just seems a little odd..and I the end I guess it does not matter. I still have a stove, an oven , food processor etc.  :)


Yet another rumour is circulating and seems pretty accurate, that some favoured  customers/consultsants   are getting their TM5 s out of line with others.  Pity the brand new consultants and  this is really upsetting for some trying to earn their incentives for the Thermomix ForumFest in 2015 which is WHERE??

Seems the Gold Coast is good enough this year. At least it will be cheaper for the company than going overseas to a more exotic location. Those consultants who do not earn their free airfare may still be able to afford to join the fun after a horrific year for them.
https://www.facebook.com/ThermoFest 

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 15, 2014, 01:26:42 am
I don't see why they need to go to exotic places anyway.  ???


Has anyone else noticed the 8 second cool down on the T5 when cooking with heat?  A safety issue I guess, although 8 seconds isn't long.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on October 15, 2014, 05:20:12 am
I don't see why they need to go to exotic places anyway.  ???


Has anyone else noticed the 8 second cool down on the T5 when cooking with heat?  A safety issue I guess, although 8 seconds isn't long.

Yes, it's all about safety. I have to learn to be patient!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 15, 2014, 11:45:38 am
TM AU confirmed on FB today that in the beginning finance applications were given their machines first as TM AU weren't paid by the finance company until the client received their machines. They have now remedied this situation. Supposedly.

Mine still hasn't arrived and was paid in full and processed 17/9. Still overseas so am not overly concerned but would be happier if I knew when it was arriving.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 15, 2014, 12:35:07 pm
It shouldn't be very long.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 15, 2014, 03:34:27 pm
I've seen so many new threads about T5, I know something has been mentioned somewhere about the oven temps in the Basic Cookbook as being fan forced - true or false? 
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 15, 2014, 06:43:01 pm
CP I'm pretty sure that was on FB too and TMX AU confirmed yes to fan forced?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 15, 2014, 07:02:22 pm
Thanks Kyton for the info.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 15, 2014, 10:35:12 pm
I spoke with my consultant yesterday and she confirmed she entered an incorrect email address for me which is why I wouldn't have received anything from HO to confirm my purchase. I ordered and had the money deducted from my cc on 18th September and the consultant has no idea when delivery will be. She said that an order she placed on the 9th was delivered late last week so I'm thinking I've still got at least 10 days to go.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 16, 2014, 12:02:02 am
If only it worked like that!  HO is now busy sending out all the thousands of Jugs and blades to those who bought the TMX31. No doubt keeping busy while the TM5 is still being built in the factory in France!  Don't hold your breath Wonder.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 16, 2014, 06:37:24 am
Yes, I saw the post by TMX about the bowls. It is  good that those get out as seemingly people paid for theirs 6 months ago. I hope the seals are ok. Don't think I could bare reading of any more controversy. the little error messages are turning me off a bit. not to mention BPA, which I did not even think about. (Seriously though it is probably more dangerous breathing in fumes in my commute to work every day in the

Having said that I would really like to get my TMX to have a play. I read today they are up to orders on the 17th Sept, they seemed to be doing the 15th for about a week..so I guess with I have a way to go for my order that did not get put through till the 27th, on and I paid in full so apparently they process the finance ones first. Ohh and Gert, it was my consultants first ever sale..so I am really going to have to wait! :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 16, 2014, 06:55:23 am
If anyone wants to win a new Thermie listen to Nathan & Nat (93.7fm Perth) tomorrow morning. If you win - ask when you will receive your prize  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 16, 2014, 07:21:45 am
I dare you CreamPuff :)

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Fenix on October 17, 2014, 06:00:07 am
The Thermomix gods have listened and somehow mine is being delivered tonight !!!!

Time to start really digging through these forums and finding a boat load of recipe inspiration.

I've already checked out Tenina's stuff, she seems to be one happening lady.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 17, 2014, 08:07:52 am
Have fun and let us know how things go.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Amanda on October 17, 2014, 01:09:51 pm
Just catching up with all of this stuff about the delay in deliveries.
HO in Perth must be making an absolute fortune from the interest earned on all of the money they are holding for fully paid up new machines that they don't have on hand to deliver.
Really starting to question their ethics.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on October 18, 2014, 04:01:13 am
Essie: At least with the bowls, they didn't charge people 6 months ago thankfully. They are only charging them now upon getting them delivered. I have a couple of customers with some on the way.

Enjoy Fenix! :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 18, 2014, 05:48:00 am
Just catching up with all of this stuff about the delay in deliveries.
HO in Perth must be making an absolute fortune from the interest earned on all of the money they are holding for fully paid up new machines that they don't have on hand to deliver.
Really starting to question their ethics.


I think there is a strong possibility that the word isn't in their vocab.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 18, 2014, 06:23:09 am
Vorwerk must be sorely disappointed in the choices Grace has made. They might be unaware that it is illegal to mislead your customers and to outright lie to them in Australia. Hopefully they may rethink the exclusive distributorship in future. If you can believe that consultants did not know of the new model ( which I do not) then it was an unconscionable  decision at the top. To leave the lowest rung on the ladder without that knowledge is reprehensible.

Every consultant I have knowledge of, did in fact know the new model was being launched. The question is whether they were told by their Group Leader or not. That is the debate. Some were more favoured than others but that is the nature of  HO in my opinion.

Having said that Grace is certainly entitled to all the past  cudos she has enjoyed for bringing this incredible machine into the country and marketing it. She has done well and that is as it should be.

The current debacle is of their own making and any criticism of the ethics or lack of is justly  deserved.

I may have not made a lot of interest on my $2000 in one month but if I had  $ 40,000 and more invested for 30 days I might be very pleased indeed.

Don't  get me started on the poor new consultants. They are in for a reality check when the hype is over.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Amanda on October 18, 2014, 08:17:44 am
I do wonder where it will all end up and how much of this Voerwerk are aware of. It's not doing the brand any favours.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: floweryspring on October 18, 2014, 10:42:03 am
Ended up ordering  Tm5 on 13/10 after being told there is a 6-8 week wait. I have been without for over a month and am sorely missing it already so I can't wait to get mine.

It was a very good marketing strategy not revealing the new price until everyone rushed out and bought Tm 5s at promotional price thinking its gonna skyrocket!

Can't wait to have a play with my new tmx!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on October 18, 2014, 10:59:41 am
If Voerwork has anyone reading their official forums (if not, why not?) then they know what is happening and how unhappy people are.

As unhappy as I am about no receipt, no email and only word of mouth from my consultant about anything, what I am really cranky about is HO's blithe indifference to any problems with the new machines.

The recipe chip with errors. They know the chip contains errors, they have issued directions to print out, which negates the point in having a chip that is supposed to inform the machine. Not fit for the purpose for which it is being sold, in my opinion. When questioned about either repairing or replacing the chip, they told people to just suck it up. They know the chip will not give information that can be relied on, yet they are still continuing to send those chips out with the new machines! Check out the official forum for the responses by Australian Thermomix to valid complaints.

Not looking forward to summer! My power goes off at least once a summer, usually for an extended period of time. There does not appear to be any override for the locking arms, which will stay locked until the power resumes. Umm, warm, half cooked chicken, unrefrigerated for 2-6 hours.

As to what consultants know or don't, I informed mine about my concerns and she said she would check with her area leader. Well, area leader says that if they weren't informed by HO about the faulty chip, then there is no fault! I sent her a link to the forum post where Thermomix Australia admits they contain inaccuracies, but I've yet to hear back. She tells me however, that her area leader has written to HO about the locking arms; I'm still waiting to hear back about that.

Just hoping I will not be one of the people whose machines shut off and flash error messages!

My hope is that Voerwork is interested in salvaging it's formerly good reputation. I'm going to be one cranky/litigious customer if I'm sold a lemon.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 18, 2014, 09:47:56 pm
Lilypilly simple, if you have a power problem, or live in a area known for cyclones, like we do, and loose all power for 2 weeks at a time, I suggest you get a inverter generator to have on standby. great for electronics.

no worries then about cooking.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on October 18, 2014, 10:15:10 pm
Obbie, is that a petrol generator? Might be overkill for my situation, (losing power for about 2-6 hours) just to rescue food out of one machine  :)   I'll either have to take my chances, or just use the gas cooktop whenever there are storms around. Or maybe Voerwork will have a workaround. Germany must have a very reliable power supply!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 18, 2014, 10:46:33 pm
a petrol generator, a inverter is especially for computers and electronics.

last cyclone we had no power for 2 weeks, we have generators though, no worries.
I have a gas oven too, or a bbq. but i still used my thermie machines as well.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on October 18, 2014, 10:56:30 pm
Ah, thank you for the clarification. If I lived somewhere that lost power for two weeks, I'd definitely have a generator/inverter. We had one for camping, but I don't do much of that these days. I'm sure there are neighbours who have one, but they aren't used during the outages, possibly because of the noise.

I love how you toss off, 'thermie machines'. More than one? I am soooo envious! 😍
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 18, 2014, 11:46:31 pm
We lose power for days at a time. I never worry about it. If the power is off for 5 minutes my really awful,neighbour hauls our her huge generator and sets is up as close to my front door as possible. Makes me laugh as we live at the back of the house. She has 't figured that out yet?

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on October 19, 2014, 10:18:43 am
We also have a couple of generators for the fire season. Haven't used them for years,  but you never know.  We are usually are without power for a couple of hours at other times. If stuck with TMX I would pop it in the car and take it to a neighbour who has power. But that is only if what was in it would spoil.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 19, 2014, 12:30:58 pm
I wonder if the T5 would open if the power goes off? I should give it a try.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 19, 2014, 10:24:44 pm
I was told not cookie. And that is the problem with turning it off at the wall and not the machine say some who have had to return theirs to the service centre. I wonder if you are able to open it manually otherwise it would have to go back to the service center with food in it!

Who knows . You keep hearing conflicting stories and some new owners are completely clueless and as well as not  bothering to read the manual. Some even SAY they cannot be bothered to read the manual which I find very strange. They seem to expect strangers on FaceBook   to fix their problems and there is a lot of ill informed and plain silly advice benign given to new owners and some of it is coming from brand new consultants who are first time TMX  users as well. Not a good start and is leaving some in tears.

It is all very well to have a huge intake  of new consultants to be trained to sell sell sell but they also need to know how to cook and use the machine. Without much experience with either they are not giving good service at all. But thankfully when they get their machine paid for and their first cheque they will quit as we have seen in the past.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Fenix on October 19, 2014, 11:06:51 pm
So I got the TM5 on Friday night and here's my experience.

Read everything there is to know about the TM31 and TM5 but had never seen one in person.

We made the vegetable stock and it was easy as pie... cut some stuff up and throw it in, wait 20 minutes and done (some light mixing as well but that's pretty much it). I really want to be able to pump out a good set of poached eggs and hollandaise so that was my first test for dinner, I followed the hollandaise recipe and it was pretty amazing (a tad lemony but I'll drop the amount next time). I tried one poaching style by dropping the whole egg in the steaming basket and cracking on a plate when done... was decent but I know my g/f doesn't like the eggs as runny as that.

Hollandaise - 8.5/10
Poached Eggs - 8/10

Some things changed around and I didn't go out on Friday night.... so why not make some pretzels. The dough was SO easy... virtually no flour spilling over the kitchen. Literally followed the recipe and out came perfect dough. I followed Tenina's recipe for pretzels. I made a few minor changes when shoving it in the oven but they came out pretty delicious. Once again I'd change a few things here and there for personal preference but it's so reassuring having a solid base dough to work from that seems FOOL-proof.

Pretzel on Friday night - 9/10
Pretzel on Saturday - 4/10 (She did say they don't last and I found out haha)

On Saturday morning I did poached eggs again but this time followed the recipe chip and dropping the eggs in. One came out perfect and the other was a bit seperated from the yolk. This method has better potential in my eyes, but I'll keep on trying.

I had a wedding all weekend and came home Sunday night. We were having a bbq and I didn't want to start making things in the TM just incase they didn't come out ok (i.e. I hate serving people food that I haven't personally tested before). But I whipped up a mushroom sauce/gravy from the TM site which was super easy and everyone loved it.

Mushroom sauce - 9/10

It's funny because I've already been copping a whole bunch of flack from family and friends about dropping 2k on a kitchen appliance when they can "do the same thing" the traditional ways. I don't like to retaliate too much because I'm not trying to sell anyone anything, I just keep saying to people that yeah I get it but c'mon when was the last time you made dough/fresh pretzels at home (hint: never)? When was the last time you had fresh hollandaise with your dinner? Would you have bothered making that mushroom sauce/gravy with the BBQ or would you have just had generic powder gravy or nothing? For me it's definitely something that compliments the kitchen as opposed to a one stop shop. I don't claim it's gods gift to the kitchen, but I definitely think that getting into the mindset of "Hey this thing that I never would have made before is totally easy to do now", thus bringing fresher/less processed/tastier food(s) into the kitchen.

Just my 2 cents so far to anyone who was in my shoes eagerly awaiting their first TM :)


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Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on October 19, 2014, 11:35:49 pm
Fantastic review Fenix, you are now a fully fledged TMX owner, you are just going to love it more everyday, I have TM31 , and instead of poaching the eggs I have been steaming them in the varoma on some wet baking paper they are perfect. Give that a try.  Use speed 4 it creates nice steam.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on October 19, 2014, 11:40:31 pm
Thanks for a great review Fenix, the aim is to love our machines and let them work for us and to the many doubters, most of whom don't cook much anyway in my experience, I go down the same track as you.  Just whip up or serve TMX food and let it speak for itself.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 19, 2014, 11:46:57 pm
Good tip Brenda.

Good review Fenix  and thoughts as well. You how many people would bother to make bread or pretzels!

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 20, 2014, 01:23:29 am
Great review Fenix. I must make that mushroom sauce, it sounds delish. AB that's how I cook my morning egg too.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Fenix on October 20, 2014, 01:42:05 am
Great review Fenix. I must make that mushroom sauce, it sounds delish. AB that's how I cook my morning egg too.

Hey CP,

http://www.recipecommunity.com.au/sauces-dips-spreads-recipes/best-mushroom-sauce/86620 (http://www.recipecommunity.com.au/sauces-dips-spreads-recipes/best-mushroom-sauce/86620)

Yep was super simple, delicious and a welcomed addition to a Sunday bbq.

In the last bit I did 3 lots of 1/2 tbsp flour (each spaced out 3 minutes apart) because it was already pretty thick.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 20, 2014, 02:08:06 am
Fenix, thanks for that review. I think you have said something that is so pertinent to the thermomix. We make things we would never have attempted before. It is so easy to whip something up that used to take us ages and ages.
Happy thermomixing.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 20, 2014, 09:09:25 am
cookie, that's what I said this afternoon at my demo.
We make things because we can, and so easily :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 20, 2014, 09:19:36 am
Wonderful review Fenix. :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Amanda on October 20, 2014, 09:43:54 am
Great review Fenix - and I agree with you.
Mine is a wonderful addition to my other tools, not a magic replacement for the lot of them. I'll never give up my KitchenAid stand mixer, my mini processor and my food processor that slices and grates.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on October 20, 2014, 08:58:41 pm
Thanks for the review Fenix.  Love your machine and who cares what others think.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: MEP on October 20, 2014, 09:32:27 pm
Great review. Just wishing I had a tm5 to use now. Had to sell my tm31 when we left Australia to move to the US temporarily. Tried, unsuccessfully, to buy replacement tm31 here but too many obstacles at the moment. Happy mixing.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 21, 2014, 12:32:17 am
Great review Fenix. Look I was one of those same people that said I would never spend that on that. After my first demo, I came home and made the same things in my current kitchen appliances....but there was always this burning doubt that perhaps I could have lot of fun with that machine. When I finally get my TMX, it has been on order FOREVER😄, I am not going to throw out all my appliances immediately, I am going to play a while before I decide what appliances I can live without... I don't think I will give it a name and I am not sure that I will decorate it...but I like white, so they decorated it ready for me. ...and I am truly grateful to Gert who set up a forum on the "rumours". I had a niggling doubt that there must be a change in model, but was not having any luck finding the info although I knew that there was a bigger factory. So I guess what I am taking the long way round to saying is, you have fun with your machine and don't worry about what people think. They are just probably a few years off buying one themselves... I was:)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 21, 2014, 08:40:52 am
Easier I can relate to what you say.  Now 3 1/2  years later I have 2!
Yes you can live without them but they are so much fun to have around and make  lots of things quicker. Enjoy Felix and let them keep wondering.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on October 21, 2014, 09:42:36 pm
Thank you Fenix, I enjoyed reading your review. Pretty pretzels! Poached eggs and hollandaise seems like a good place to start putting the machine through its paces.

Everyone has their own priorities. I don't have a big TV and my digital camera is 11 years old. Haven't had a holiday in quite some time. I could easily spend the cost of a TM on just one of those items. Pleased to hear that the scoffers enjoyed the dishes  :)

I look forward to reading about your further adventures!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Fenix on October 22, 2014, 06:06:04 am
Thanks for the kind words everyone, you'll be happy to know the TM is slowly working it's magic grip on all people who have seen it in action.

I've made a strawberry jam for the hell of it.... I don't even normally eat jam but we saw some fresh strawbs and thought why not. It tastes amazing, it's like I've entered the matrix and most off the shelf food just sucks compared to making your own stuff.

Anyway I'm planning on making some jam dots or scones this weekend to accompany the jam, I will post photos when it happens !



Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on October 22, 2014, 06:22:17 am
Good to see you're putting it to the test Fenix, it's great making things we've never made before.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 22, 2014, 08:36:59 am
Congratulations on the strawberry jam.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 22, 2014, 08:44:53 am
It's great satisfaction making things just because you can Fenix :D :D Just wait until Christmas you will be cooking up a storm  ;) ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on October 23, 2014, 02:42:55 pm
I cook so much more with the Thermie than I would if I didn't have it. My DH complained today that he thought having the new TM5 meant I wouldn't be in the kitchen as much. But, he said, you're always in there!!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: naturalmumma on October 23, 2014, 11:00:01 pm
My TM5 arrived last night so far I have made stock concentrate, Pumpkin risotto, fruity dream & this morning bliss balls, porridge cooking at the moment then will get some bread going. So far so good, the porridge has come out super creamy, was not keen on the risotto recipe but will search for some other risotto recipes today. I have a couple of questions any tips to get smell out of lid as it smells of the stock I have had bicarb on it over night & tried putting it in the freezer. All so where do I fine the changes to the recipes in the book/chip the ones where there was errors.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: goldfish on October 23, 2014, 11:45:39 pm
Hi naturalmumma.. And welcome to the forum!  Have a look through (p14) this thread. I believe Gertbysea posted about some corrections that have been flagged for the chip.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Fenix on October 24, 2014, 01:38:42 am
Last night I made some Gnocchi and Basil Pesto with bacon, followed these recipes:

Gnocchi
http://www.recipecommunity.com.au/pasta.../gnocchi/28884

Pesto
http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/1904/basil+pesto

Gnocchi recipe is spot on, pesto I'd probably drop the cheese to 45grams cause it was a tad cheesy. I just cooked some bacon on the stove, let it cool and blitzed it for a couple seconds and dropped ontop of the pesto.

Amazing meal, can't wait til the weekend and put it through some more paces :)

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Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 24, 2014, 01:57:31 am
that gnocchi meal looks delightful Fenix
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 24, 2014, 03:34:26 am
That looks great Fenix.

I'm still waiting on my machine, I haven't heard anything from either Thermomix or my consultant witha change to expected delivery. When I ordered it was 20 working days but it's already been 26 since they took my money so I'm thinking I should have received one of the emails advising of the 6 - 8 week wait.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 24, 2014, 03:58:42 am
I'd call or text her Wonder. You must be wringing your hands with anticipation
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 24, 2014, 05:31:31 am
I felt a little bad but went around the consultant and just rang thermomix only to find out that it has already been dispatched to her, so I should get it early next week. While the consultant seems really lovely when I've spoken with her I have got the impression that she may not be as reliable or switched on as some others.

CP - to be honest I've been so busy with work and home that I haven't had a lot of time to think about it, and probably couldn't have arranged a delivery. Next week is also going to be a little crazy work wise from Wednesday so here's hoping she can bring it over Monday or Tuesday morning.

After speaking with head office they finally emailed me the invoice and it had the warranty commenced on 19th September!!! I sent it back asking for it to be changed to next week when I'll take actual delivery.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Shellbo on October 24, 2014, 06:14:52 am
What date did you order wonder? It's only been 3 weeks for me, but I'm trying to figure out where they are up to with dispatch. Also did you pay outright or with a payment plan?
Enjoy it, happy playing ....
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 24, 2014, 07:25:49 am
My TM5 arrived last night so far I have made stock concentrate, Pumpkin risotto, fruity dream & this morning bliss balls, porridge cooking at the moment then will get some bread going. So far so good, the porridge has come out super creamy, was not keen on the risotto recipe but will search for some other risotto recipes today. I have a couple of questions any tips to get smell out of lid as it smells of the stock I have had bicarb on it over night & tried putting it in the freezer. All so where do I fine the changes to the recipes in the book/chip the ones where there was errors.
Welcome back Naturalmumma. ;D
It sounds as you are cooking up a storm ;)
Here (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=4545.0) are a few tips on a smelly lid.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 24, 2014, 07:27:13 am
Fantastic cooking Fenix. 8) You certainly have got off to a great start cooking in your TM5 ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 24, 2014, 09:12:14 am
Shelbo I ordered with my consultant on September 17th and the amount was charged to my credit card on Sept 18th. I paid in full.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 24, 2014, 09:23:07 am
Good on you Wonder for sticking up for your rights. That consultant does seem a little lacking. I hope you even get it before Monday so you can play around with it over the weekend.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: goldfish on October 24, 2014, 10:09:49 am
Ohh Wonder!!! Atta girl!!!! What in heavens name are they thinking!!!!!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 24, 2014, 12:41:12 pm
Wonderful looking gnocchi.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Shellbo on October 24, 2014, 02:43:03 pm
Thanks Wonder...it looks as though mine might still be a while off  :(
Oh well, I will just have to try to pretend that I have patience.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 24, 2014, 03:04:58 pm
Processed on my CC 27 Sept, in Perth, arrived today. I think they must be catching up.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 24, 2014, 09:04:33 pm
Wow Essie, sounds like you have been lucky with yours I know of people who ordered the same week as me and have had no word yet.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on October 25, 2014, 12:53:38 am
lovely gnocchi
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 25, 2014, 02:40:12 am
Fenix, was it potato or ricotta ghocchi? the link isn't working for me
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 25, 2014, 06:53:44 am
That's good news Essie.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 25, 2014, 08:52:20 am
Paid in full and processed 18/9 and mine has only just left Perth on Friday.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 28, 2014, 06:44:57 am
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/27/3830881df9d9dc5e47c178093482cf8b.jpg)
And delivered today!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 28, 2014, 07:05:55 am
Pleased it has arrived Kyton, hope you are happy with it.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: naturalmumma on October 28, 2014, 07:57:22 am
How exciting Kyton enjoy it :D its amazing & worth every penny
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 28, 2014, 08:11:46 am
Where are you located Kyton? Mine was also shipped from Perth on Friday and my consultant today said I "might" get it by the weekend!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 28, 2014, 08:36:32 am
Oh Wonder you still haven't got yours?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 28, 2014, 09:22:02 am
It looks great Kyton. 8)

Where are you located Kyton? Mine was also shipped from Perth on Friday and my consultant today said I "might" get it by the weekend!
Fingers crossed that you do Wonder.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Kimmyh on October 28, 2014, 09:25:33 am
Still waiting wonder. My goodness it really is snail mail.
Both your machines look great together kyton.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 28, 2014, 09:40:27 am
Wonder, I'm in Newcastle NSW. They tried to deliver to my consultant's home this morning but she had already left for work so she picked it up from the post office this afternoon and dropped it off.

She is a very dear friend for over 25yrs so I didn't have a proper delivery demo just a run through as she is always on hand LOL.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 28, 2014, 10:58:45 am
It sounds as though yours. Au be at your consultants place soon Wonder.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 28, 2014, 07:38:54 pm
I'm really hoping I get it before the weekend as I don't have much on so would be able to have a play.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 28, 2014, 09:07:10 pm
I'm getting the house clean this morning before playing (was too hesitant to use it last night, still used 31 to cook dinner's rice LOL).
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 29, 2014, 03:04:40 am
My new toy just arrived but I am too ill to play with it. Happy to lay back and read up first in any case.

New chip Cooking for You  and Me  out soon but only as a consultants incentive.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 29, 2014, 03:08:43 am
Great news that the T5 has arrived Gert. Saw my consultant this morning and mine is still in transit  >:( Hope you are better soon so you can start experimenting.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 29, 2014, 03:26:01 am
Just reading the manual and finding that it is important to do so. I will be treating this machine with more respect . There are definitely some don't do and. Now I understand why people are getting errors and believe it is basic , when all else fails read the manual.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 29, 2014, 06:25:54 am
Good advice Gert. Rest up and you will cooking very soon.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: naturalmumma on October 29, 2014, 06:45:58 am
The new chip Gert mentioned will be out before Christmas that book was written by my consultant & I was at cooking class last night & a consultant told be that all books may be out on chip in January fingers crossed this is true. I saw the TM31 for the first time last night in action & over the moon to have the TM5
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 29, 2014, 10:45:44 am
I'm really hoping I get it before the weekend as I don't have much on so would be able to have a play.
I hope so too,Wonder

Gert sorry to hear you are still unwell.  Good idea reading your manual first.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 29, 2014, 11:41:56 am
Great news about the arrival of your TM5 Gert.I did read the manual several times too ;)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 29, 2014, 12:02:59 pm
CC do you love it as much as you old one? I did not fall in love a first sight. I will be delving into it soon.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 29, 2014, 12:17:39 pm
I'm in the minority and love a manual so plan on reading up as soon as i can
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 29, 2014, 12:25:35 pm
It's taken me a while to get use to the look of the TM5 Gert.The most difficulty I had at first were the locking arms.Very alien after using the TM31 for many years.DH reckons the TM31 is a better built machine.He says the TM5 looks like a Urinal :D :D :D
I think the new temperature settings on the TM5 are great.More flexible,especially the 98c as it let you gently simmer food in the jug.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 29, 2014, 08:50:38 pm
I'm in the minority and love a manual so plan on reading up as soon as i can

Me too.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 29, 2014, 09:00:08 pm
Some of the photos in the new basic book are uninspiring, if my muffins looked like that, or the quiche I would be disappointed.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 29, 2014, 09:07:02 pm
I agree Denise,some of the photos are poor.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 29, 2014, 11:37:23 pm
I agree with your DH  CC.  All the photos from the Thermomix are lacking in styling for sure. Not a patch on Tenina's.

The simmering will be a bonus when cooking things for a long time and it will help with the splattering.

Has anyone removed the two grills to clean?  I am wondering if the one on the bottom needs to be replaced ever or can it be washed?

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Emme on October 30, 2014, 02:18:57 am
CC have heard others describe the shape the same as your DH  :D ;D

Ladies, will be very interested to hear what you think of the new one in comparison to the TM31.  Looking forward to your reviews.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 30, 2014, 03:20:15 am
Just some feedback on the Basic Cookbook photograps in the "Desserts and Sweets" section. I don't feel tempted to try the lamingtons as I grew up with cube shaped lamingtons, those ones look like they failed to rise. The chocolate fondant cake is probably meant to look like this, but to me it looks undercooked and a gooey mess. Too easy chocolate cake looks like it was put in a tin that's too large and didn't rise, resembles a slice. Apple Tart looks a bit dry, some presence of cream somewhere would make it look more appetising. We eat with our eyes, and I don't find these photos enticing. Just saying  :D

I agree. There would be thousands of these books printed so its not just a small operation, they need to start thinking like a multi-national business instead of backyarders. Some pizazz wouldn't go astray, it looks like something from the 60's.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 30, 2014, 04:05:25 am
Just some feedback on the Basic Cookbook photograps in the "Desserts and Sweets" section. I don't feel tempted to try the lamingtons as I grew up with cube shaped lamingtons, those ones look like they failed to rise. The chocolate fondant cake is probably meant to look like this, but to me it looks undercooked and a gooey mess. Too easy chocolate cake looks like it was put in a tin that's too large and didn't rise, resembles a slice. Apple Tart looks a bit dry, some presence of cream somewhere would make it look more appetising. We eat with our eyes, and I don't find these photos enticing. Just saying  :D

I agree. There would be thousands of these books printed so its not just a small operation, they need to start thinking like a multi-national business instead of backyarders. Some pizazz wouldn't go astray, it looks like something from the 60's.


Couldn't agree more  it is their usual dogs dinner with too many people  in many countries trying to pull it together. Some of the photographs are professionally done but not all are styled. Very inconsistent and some insipid.  They should take a lesson from some excellent cookbooks out there .

At least the paper doesn't stink like that crappy Devils cookbook.  I could not even touch  thing.
Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 30, 2014, 06:08:06 am
I was just about to say how jealous I was of you all getting your TM5s but my consultant just rang! Now to organise everyone so we can do a group delivery demo. My Aunt and I ordered on the 21st and she received them yesterday while brother ordered on the 22nd and it came today! So it seems they are going order.

I'm so excited!

It's a shame about the photography in the book. I love food photography (I love taking photos myself but not as talented as others out there).
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 30, 2014, 07:06:51 am
Still waiting, doesn't look like I'll get it for this weekend.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 30, 2014, 07:14:45 am
Mine is here but I am too sick to,play and of course there is little fresh food in the house because I have not been shopping.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: SoBlessed on October 30, 2014, 09:31:00 am
I've succumbed! After seeing a demo, I just had to have one and have just ordered my new TMX5 tonight. I should have it just before Christmas. I still love my old one, but it will get a new home with either my daughter or one of my friends. My daughter's husband says they don't have room, but she's still working on him  ;D  At least I will still get to see my old Thermy :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 30, 2014, 09:38:17 am
Lucky you, definitely so blessed
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on October 30, 2014, 03:22:02 pm
Heard back from TMAU. Brisbane warehouse is up to orders placed on 2 October. Also heard from my consultant and she says mine is 'picked'! So, hopefully end of next week, or beginning of the following.  ;D

I've read the manual I downloaded, but touchscreen directions, without a touchscreen to play with tend to read like a foreign language. Can't wait to get my hands on my new kitchen offsider!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 30, 2014, 09:34:07 pm
It seems to be very hit and miss. Mine was paid for September 18th and Thermomix Australia confirmed last Friday it was "in transit" and my consultant has now confirmed the status hasn't changed  :-\ No doubt Thermomix will blame Australia post for the long transit, and they didn't respond to my email regarding the warranty beginning on the day of payment rather than the day of delivery but I'll chase that up once I get the machine.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 30, 2014, 10:03:11 pm
You have had a very raw deal Wonder, I feel for you.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on October 30, 2014, 10:07:37 pm
It seems to be very hit and miss. Mine was paid for September 18th and Thermomix Australia confirmed last Friday it was "in transit" and my consultant has now confirmed the status hasn't changed  :-\ No doubt Thermomix will blame Australia post for the long transit, and they didn't respond to my email regarding the warranty beginning on the day of payment rather than the day of delivery but I'll chase that up once I get the machine.
Where a about are you? You ordered before me and mine came 2 days ago (mine was picked on the 22nd - 31 days after I placed my ordered and my consultant received it exactly a week later in Melbourne). I'm sure they have tracking so they have a better idea of how close it is to you now.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: stacelee on October 31, 2014, 02:24:26 am
Are there any rumours about what promotions might be offered once the price goes up tomorrow? I'm playing with the idea of upgrading sometime in the near future (just playing at the moment) and was curious as to what might be offered.  I don't feel like giving them my hard earned money at the moment and waiting a couple of months to get the machine....I'd prefer to have it in my account and wait to see what happens next.

Thanks
Stacey
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 31, 2014, 02:26:18 am
Wonder, that sucks to put it politely!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on October 31, 2014, 02:31:01 am
I think that someone along the line, someone has stuffed up your order Wonder. Its taken longer than I've ever heard  >:(
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 31, 2014, 04:26:57 am
I think that someone along the line, someone has stuffed up your order Wonder. Its taken longer than I've ever heard  >:(

I agree. I wonder when the actual order was placed with HO.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 31, 2014, 04:27:56 am
I rang TMX back to find out that dispatch was actually from their Melbourne warehouse last Wednesday so it's now officially lost in the mail! Can't believe my consultant didn't notice the tracking hadn't changed since it was dispatched 9 days ago  :-\, anyway they have put in a request to Australia post but have said this takes up to 5 days to be reviewed and answered. With the Melbourne cup holiday on Tuesday even looks like I won't hear anything until at least late next week  :(

The money was taken from my CC on September 18th which is the same day that I provided my consultant with my details, so it appears the problem is with Australia Post.

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: naturalmumma on October 31, 2014, 04:47:14 am
Wonder I am so sorry to hear this hope Australia post find it soon
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on October 31, 2014, 05:17:46 am
Wonder so sorry to hear this.  Australia post is useless. I sent a Thermoserver to UK and it took 6 months to arrive.  They wouldn't even investigate until 6 months had passed.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on October 31, 2014, 05:50:21 am
Frustrating.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on October 31, 2014, 05:57:04 am
Fingers crossed it turns up soon Wonder.  Are these parcels insured?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on October 31, 2014, 06:12:11 am
thats shocking wonder  >:(


Title: Re: TM5
Post by: jeninwa on October 31, 2014, 08:11:45 am
Sorry to hear this Wonder, I hope Australia post finds it soon for you.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on October 31, 2014, 12:10:38 pm
Australia Post managed to lose a book of DD's that was near enough to the size of a thermomix. Good luck Wonder. Your consultant doesn't have it under her bench does she?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on October 31, 2014, 01:02:03 pm
You are being very patient Wonder,I would be spitting feathers!!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on October 31, 2014, 06:54:28 pm
have you asked when the warranty start, i hope from delivery
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on October 31, 2014, 07:00:23 pm
Can't believe my consultant didn't notice the tracking hadn't changed since it was dispatched 9 days ago  :-\,



i don't believe it either
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: goldfish on October 31, 2014, 07:45:59 pm
have you asked when the warranty start, i hope from delivery

I would hope so, too!  A learning curve for the consultantl, I think. Could be wrong but training for consultants seems to be very sketchy and minimal from what I've observed over time.

Wonder, I do hope this all resolves soon.  It's a frustrating start for sure!!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on October 31, 2014, 09:24:43 pm
CC, I was pretty annoyed yesterday but more because we have a public holiday Tuesday and I was planning on doing some cooking then. While it's frustrating I know I'll eventually get it and this is really out of their hands. With the consultant it just confirms my earier thoughts that while she is a lovely lady, she's not a rocket scientist  ;D

I questioned them on the warranty and they said they would extend it to October, I said I wouldn't accept anything other than the warranty commencing on the day it's available for me to use it. The phone operator said she would need to get back to me on it. I'll continue to press them on this and get it in writing, making sure I take a photo of the date stamp etc. on the package.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on October 31, 2014, 09:31:55 pm
Oh Wonder, I can only echo what others have said. So annoying to have something of that magnitude "go astray"! I seriously thought that TM Aust would have used a dedicated courier form like DHL, Fastway etc. I know Aust Post has a courier service but I still think they do "normal" mail better.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on October 31, 2014, 10:27:27 pm
You are being very patient Wonder,I would be spitting feathers!!

 :D :D :D  We say 'spitting chips' down under CC, I had a good laugh at your saying.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 31, 2014, 10:42:53 pm
It is a shame all this kerfuffle could easily have been avoided. It has really damaged the brand.

I would not worry too much about the warranty as I am sure that it will be honoured even after the use by date. It would not be worth her while not to.She is in enough doo doo as it is.

I started making ice cream with the chip recipe and couldn't cope. had to add this change that and why bother but it is good for the method.

The settings on the machine can change the language. NOT. Yes you can see some simple prep message like Next in Spanish but the recipe remains in English. They could have done  so much more and so much better with the chip which should have been a stick. This is really a shame and Vorwerk has gone even further down in customer care in my opinion. Clever marketing but not so nice for the customer.

And don't quote me on this but they will use the chip as an incentive before releasing it to the public. They will no doubt be pretty scarce as they build up momentum in to a frenzy of must have this instant mentality. This will send it to the ebay underground where consultants buy plenty and on sell with secret ebay accounts at inflated prices. We already see this with the servers and cookbooks!

We can only hope this TM5 doe not divide the thermomix community we have into 31 VS 5. I already see this on FB.

Meanwhile thinking about what next to make.



Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on October 31, 2014, 11:02:41 pm
Ok so I have had my TM5 a week now and here are my thoughts.
Firstly this is m first thermal mixer ever and I am wondering why I have waited  so long? (Mostly because I was far too stubborn).
When it arrived I was petrified and I just wanted to read manuals.  To my surprise my husband flicks the switch on and makes himself a batch of tomato sauce. He adjusts the recipe to his preferred "take your head off" chilli level and the ingredients we have in the fridge, then pleased with his efforts he makes a batch that I can eat. I follow with a lamb saag, some aoli, the easy chocolate cake- which is now going to be my new basic recipe to adjust to all flavours as the texture is devine,..and suddenly I realise my fear is well and truly over. By this time my husband wanted to make some dips and was calling me a thermohog and saying that he understood why people had two, but I think he meant a "his" and "hers".The auto rice recipe did not work out for me, however unlike a rice cooker there is more room to continue cooking and I loved how it came out fluffy in the end. I love guided cooking and I love manual. I love the ease of cleaning it...and I love that my husband feels confortable enough to pick up the recipe book and go for it. As I have said to folks at work if you don't cook, it is terrific..and if you do like to cook it is awesome.

PS Gert, I hope that you feel all better soon.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on October 31, 2014, 11:17:56 pm
Fantastic essie. Reminded me Imwas going to make some sauce too. I am still so I'll my head ain't t thinking.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Emme on October 31, 2014, 11:40:17 pm
Wonder, do you hope your machine turns up soon.  I hope they have not totally lost it!

Essie, glad you are getting on well with your machine and having successes with it.  I am sure it won't take long to get used to all its features.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 01, 2014, 12:07:49 am
Well I am making my pasta sauce using the chip as a guide. The touch screen is growing on me but the sautéing is fantastic on 120. The sauce is cooking on 100. I put in at least a kilo of tomatoes and NO SPLATTER!  I am now reducing the sauce down further but not removing the cup to see how long it takes.

Might make some bread then.

Not loving it yet but we are getting acquainted.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 01, 2014, 12:10:25 am
How awful Wonder.  I don't see how it being lost in the mail is your problem, why should you wait until they find it (if they do!).
You're in Melbourne, your consultant is in Melbourne, the distribution centre is in Melbourne - why can't they just fast track another machine to your consultant for you?  If the other one turns up, the consultant can just return it surely.

My consultant has sent me a message advising my machine has arrived.  We just need to arrange a time for her to deliver it.
Looking forward to seeing what it can do, as I've not had a demo or seen it in action.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on November 01, 2014, 12:22:30 am
That's great news Katie, have you broken the news to TM31 yet  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 01, 2014, 12:37:20 am
No not yet. But I'm keeping my TM31, so hopefully they will become great friends!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 01, 2014, 03:21:41 am
I've never heard of spitting feathers but I'm going to use that from now on cos I think it would be frustrating to have a mouthful of feathers and try and spit them out  :D

I've made rice twice from the chip and both times was undercooked. I think the trick is to measure and then wash it before proceeding.

I think just having a slightly bigger bowl, and the revised MC design that there is overall less splatter. I don't have to clean this Thermie as much on the outside for some reason.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 01, 2014, 03:25:36 am
I just made Isi's bread and I thought it had not risen bit of course the bowl is bigger. All good.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: jo_nz on November 01, 2014, 04:51:37 am
You are being very patient Wonder,I would be spitting feathers!!

 :D :D :D  We say 'spitting chips' down under CC, I had a good laugh at your saying.
Haha, I would be "spitting tacks" ☺️
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on November 01, 2014, 05:06:14 am
no splatter, I made tomato sauce today too.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: naturalmumma on November 01, 2014, 05:22:24 am
I all so found many of the recipes needed longer and was told the small 1 liter thermoserver is the insentive and the for you and me chip will be for sale before Christmas and all books could be out on chip in January. I got all this info from consultants at cooking class
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 01, 2014, 09:14:34 am
You are being very patient Wonder,I would be spitting feathers!!

 :D :D :D  We say 'spitting chips' down under CC, I had a good laugh at your saying.
Haha, I would be "spitting tacks" ☺️
LOL
One of many little sayings my Dad would quote :D :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 01, 2014, 07:30:40 pm
Have just heard that my Thermi 5 has been dispatched.  Excited. So looking forward to playing with it .  Will probably make basic things like soups and custards and of course bread until I get used to it.  Then I will try stretching the boundaries.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 01, 2014, 07:34:56 pm
Very exciting for you Chookie ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 01, 2014, 09:16:22 pm
Chookie thats great news, your wait didn't seem very long at all.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on November 01, 2014, 11:02:01 pm
Great news Chookie, I imagine those boundaries will stretch a very long way as usual  :D :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 01, 2014, 11:12:40 pm
I don't know why I do it but for you my friends I had to try something else in the TM5 . I dragged my sizeable butt out of my sick bed to make scrambled eggs with smoked salmon on a bed of steamed buttery kale for breakfast.

Honestly I know everyone wants to use the Thermomix for EVERYTHING. but I could have done  it in 3 minutes flat in the stove. As it is I put  some water in the jug, a good bunch of torn kale in the Varoma base and a mixture of beaten eggs. cream and smoked salmon pieces in the top on wet baking paper.

Set it for 10 min at  100 speed 2.5. Had to add another 3 minutes for the bl##dy eggs. Delish but why bother except there was only rinsing of equipment. So there is the bonus.

I am gradually getting the hang of the touch and dial. It is fiddly at first but the control is much better for the temp and speed. I did notice that when pouring the yeast  from the carton into the jug it did not measure accurately if at all. When I thought  there was enough yeast it still had not reached. Any grams but I know yeast can be tricky. Maybe I should use a measuring spoon sometimes. LOL!

What next?

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 01, 2014, 11:19:14 pm
Gert sorry you are still unwell.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 01, 2014, 11:39:59 pm
Thanks Denise but I see that there are a few of us with the lurgy. Just not meant to leave my germ free environment up here. My ears are still blocked and it is like I am in an echo chamber.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Mama Fergie on November 02, 2014, 12:01:33 am
That is such a horrible feeling Gert. I hope it clears up soon as you have had more than your fair share recently  :(
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 02, 2014, 02:12:03 am
Take care Gert.

I love TM 5 but the feeling is no where as intense as it was for 31. I think it is because thermal cooking is not new to me anymore. I adore having 2 machines and often have the 2 going. I really like the increased bowl size, as like everyone else there is no spatter.
So far I've found that every recipe I have made can be made in either machine. I will remain a thermomix fan and not separate my boys into 31 and 5.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on November 02, 2014, 03:00:34 am
Said goodbye to my TM31 today and hello to my TM5. I haven't made anything but the vegetable concentrate yet but loving it already. I can't decide what to make first!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: charlieboy on November 02, 2014, 04:25:53 am
Hope your turns up soon Wonder. How very frustrating!

Mine arrived on Thursday and so far so good! :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Thermesa on November 02, 2014, 05:37:04 am
I ordered mine finally on Friday. I figured waiting a bit longer to wait 8 weeks was fine with me. Maybe they will catch up.

I asked about paying with Amex and was told there was an additional cost of $50 payable to Amex. Now I'm pretty sure that isn't going to be a separate receipt from Amex so I'm not sure how silly they think I am.

My consultant has another 3 weeks at the whole foods cooking school in Perth so I'm hoping for lots of lateral discussions at any future demos.

Hope the lurgy leaves you soon Gert.
Fenix, I'm craving hollandaise whilst traveling between Bathurst and Wagga Wagga.
Wonder, your situation reminds me of the Christmas I ordered a trampoline from the manufacturer 3 months out with delivery the week before Christmas. The net, matts and tie downs all arrived in separate dispatches but the trampoline never arrived. We ended up buying another one in town on Christmas Eve but it was a horrible fuss and bother.

Apparently the courier couldn't travel the 6 km out of town to pick up the surplus components either.

Hopefully TM5 is ready for Christmas.

My cPAP machine has a push and dial control panel so I am practicing with that in the interim.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 02, 2014, 11:07:37 am
LOL.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 03, 2014, 03:30:26 am
I am not loving that I cannot turbo my potatoes after cooking. I like chunky mash.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 03, 2014, 03:34:30 am
do u have to wait until the temp goes down ?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 03, 2014, 03:43:08 am
Why can't you turbo them?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 03, 2014, 03:46:59 am
You can't turbo in the TM5 if the temperature in the bowl is above 60 degrees (I've been reading the manual online whilst bored).
It's a safety thing, the turbo function is deactivated because of the heat.

I've heard from my consultant and my TM5 is going to be delivered tomorrow night  :D

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 03, 2014, 04:00:41 am
the same with TM31

how exciting Katie
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 03, 2014, 04:02:19 am
I am also not loving that it is more difficult to separate the blade from the jug as the thumb "spot" is smaller. Nearly broke a nail!!

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 03, 2014, 04:05:59 am
do u have to wait until the temp goes down ?


Uni said it . I never had a problem with the TM31 turboing with mash at high temp.

But you can turn the speed up to 9/10 but it does not go to that speed as quickly as the 31 so my mash was sort of half chunky and half puree.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 03, 2014, 04:08:42 am
Exciting Katie.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: sue_purrb on November 03, 2014, 04:09:40 am
Could you try just mixing at speed 4 or 5, Gert? That might leave it chunky.  ???
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 03, 2014, 04:30:03 am
I will have to play with it next time Sue. Might go through a few potatoes until I Purrrrrrrfict it!

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 03, 2014, 04:40:29 am
I am also not loving that it is more difficult to separate the blade from the jug as the thumb "spot" is smaller. Nearly broke a nail!!

Gert

If you are right handed:

hold jug in your left hand, flip abit, rest right hand wrist on the base just below the handle and insert 4 fingers in the groove and twist off the mixing bowl base. Hope that helps  :-*
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 03, 2014, 04:46:18 am
Lucky you Katie
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on November 03, 2014, 04:52:11 am
Heard from my consultant this morning, "definitely next week"! That is just shy of 5 weeks. Yay!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 03, 2014, 05:02:40 am
I ordered mine on the 30th September and it's coming tomorrow night, so just over a month.

I can't believe you still haven't got yours Wonder.  That's so disappointing for you.  Perhaps you need to make a phone call advising them of your disappointment.  I still don't see how it being lost in the post is your problem, they should just arrange a new one and get it to you quickly.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 03, 2014, 05:30:42 am
I am also not loving that it is more difficult to separate the blade from the jug as the thumb "spot" is smaller. Nearly broke a nail!!

Gert

If you are right handed:

hold jug in your left hand, flip abit, rest right hand wrist on the base just below the handle and insert 4 fingers in the groove and twist off the mixing bowl base. Hope that helps  :-*

You want me to stick these expensive nails up the bum of the bowl and twist? Get real ;D ;D. Might use a multigrip I keep in my kitchen drawer for opening recalcitrant  wine bottles!  

Anyway I think it will get easier with use.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 03, 2014, 06:51:56 am
 ;D ;D ;D you're precious
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 03, 2014, 06:57:45 am
do u have to wait until the temp goes down ?


Uni said it . I never had a problem with the TM31 turboing with mash at high temp.

But you can turn the speed up to 9/10 but it does not go to that speed as quickly as the 31 so my mash was sort of half chunky and half puree.

Gert



I hear what you are saying Gert, I don't like the slow response to high speed either.  Very different to 31.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 03, 2014, 06:58:32 am
Wonder, time to be the squeaky wheel. You deserve attention.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 03, 2014, 07:00:12 am
I am also not loving that it is more difficult to separate the blade from the jug as the thumb "spot" is smaller. Nearly broke a nail!!

Gert

You get used to it quickly Gert.
I also found it awkward at first.

Exciting Katie, look forward to hearing your travels
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 03, 2014, 08:40:25 am
Very exciting Katie ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 03, 2014, 08:53:23 am
Great news Katie. Have fun.
Gert I also find it hard to get the bottom off. No muscles.  :D
The 5 seems to have lots of heat safety measures built in. Yet the other day I  had rested my hand on the bowl, as I often do, and I was almost caught by the bowl lockers with my fitbit band.  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 03, 2014, 08:55:13 am
It bites!

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 03, 2014, 10:10:48 am
I'm going to ring head office on Wednesday as I'm now getting sick of waiting. I'm normally pretty patient but I'm starting to get over it, I just feel bad for my consultant as it's not her fault either.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 03, 2014, 10:36:55 am
Wonder,  are you ringing Perth?  If so ring tomorrow as it isn't a holiday there, I think.

Mine was ordered on the 29 Sept and arrived today.  Beautiful Anita made a special visit to the PO to collect it and brought it up to me tonight.  I had my demo and other than pressing the wrong button and getting my instructions in Italian, everything looks good.
A couple of things, extend the cord to its maximum.   If you remove the lid from a hot bowl , you may not be able to put it back on immediately.
I have revised my opinion of the Chip and will probably use it as a basic set of instructions. 
The little rubber prong at the back left side should be treated with respect as it controls the arms that close the lid.  I think I have this correct.
Now to bed with the manual.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 03, 2014, 10:45:07 am
You have been far too patient Wonder, I definitely think you should ring them.

Fun times ahead Chookie, I look forward to reading what you make.
I read the manual online today and I'm looking forward to it arriving tomorrow night.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 03, 2014, 07:32:24 pm
Chookie, I'm not sure if there is any point in ringing Perth as it was dispatched from Melbourne so I assume they won't be able to do anything until they can talk to some from the Melbourne office but i guess it's worth a try.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Shellbo on November 03, 2014, 09:41:16 pm
Wonder, surely your consultant should be trying to get this sorted for you? Is she just telling you to wait until it arrives?  You have been very patient, I would be so frustrated by now. Hope you get it very soon
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 04, 2014, 12:01:13 am
Maybe tell them if you haven't received it by Thursday you'd like your credit card refunded in full until you have your machine as you have already started paying interest on the amount. Clarify when the warranty commences from also. So ridiculous to have to wait this long.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Kimmyh on November 04, 2014, 09:15:56 am
I agree with Katie...wonder you have been more than patient. Ring Perth, ring Melbourne and ring your consultant so she can ring head office too. No harm in a few phone calls. This is the age of tracking. Someone somewhere knows exactly where your machine currently is.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 04, 2014, 09:28:46 am
Wonder i think someone has pinched it.  it isn't the only one missing in Melbourne.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: jeninwa on November 04, 2014, 09:36:18 am
I agree with Katie...wonder you have been more than patient. Ring Perth, ring Melbourne and ring your consultant so she can ring head office too. No harm in a few phone calls. This is the age of tracking. Someone somewhere knows exactly where your machine currently is.

I agree ring them all and keep ringing till you get this sorted. Its not good enough.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Amanda on November 04, 2014, 11:38:14 am
I can't believe that Perth is getting away with all of this.
First, suggesting that Amex requires $50 extra seems to be extortionate. I'd be insisting on seeing a separate invoice from them.
I also find it impossible to believe that they entrust such an expensive article to Australia Post without registering it which makes it completely trackable.
Wonder, if I were you I'd be on the phone and speaking very firmly to Perth, the consultant (regardless of how nice she is, she is the salesperson) and Australia Post. I'd also be making lots of notes and reporting this whole mess to the ACCC.
And demanding a refund commensurate with however much interest you've paid.
I'm a little surprised at the level of disrespectful behaviour which purchasers are prepared to put up with from this company.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: turando on November 04, 2014, 12:16:55 pm
Amanda - were you told that AMEX will be sending you a bill of $50? The consultant should have explained that there is a $50 charge that is added to your total if you use AMEX. AMEX generally has higher fees for companies and that's why a lot of places don't accept it or put a fee if you want to use it. It's something you agree to when you sign the order form.

The thermomix is trackable through Australia Post but even with trackable items if they are missing in between it's a matter of figuring out where they are and that requires Australia Post to investigate. I've done a lot of online selling over the years and it can be a huge headache dealing with them too.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 04, 2014, 12:30:34 pm
Here I was happily cooking the Healthy Roast Chicken for dinner tonight, but then it just shutdown.  Error message C160. Cannot continue cooking in T5. That's where a backup machine comes into its own and stops me from spitting feathers. Off to get tweaked tomorrow. My consultant is really good and got back to me straightaway.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 04, 2014, 12:35:07 pm
Oh no CP :o :o You have me very nervous now :-X Do you actually know what's wrong?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 04, 2014, 07:48:07 pm
Oh hell, CP.
Yesterday made 2. Lots of bread, pumpkin soup from chip and pumpkin risotto served with pan fried pork , pumpkin and asparagus. All good and easy.
Finding lid easier to clean, blades very sharp, same amount of noise. 
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on November 04, 2014, 08:21:04 pm
Yep, I am finding blades very sharp, easier to clean, but get frustrated with waiting to open the lid.
CP I hope your gets fixed.

Wonder Apost can still track parcels. who signed for it.., keep ringing HO.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 04, 2014, 08:33:30 pm
Oh no CP, hope it's sorted quickly.

Amex definitely do charge higher fees than Visa & MasterCard and its not unusual for companies to charge a higher credit card surcharge for Amex.

My TM5 arrived last night, my first impression is I like it. Probably won't get to use it fully until the weekend now.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 04, 2014, 08:38:52 pm
Enjoy your new TM5 Katie :-*
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 04, 2014, 08:39:36 pm
I spoke with the Perth office yesterday and the same story as the Melbourne office - until Australia post can identify where the parcel is or declare it lost there is nothing they can do. They can't arrange a new machine to be sent until Australia post declare it lost as their system doesn't allow them to 'pick' another machine for a customer until less the first order is cancelled which can't be done until they have confirmation!! I told them that unless they can clarify for me how long I might have to wait (at the end of this week it will be double the number of work days I was told when I ordered), I want compensation for them charging my credit card. The person on the phone wasn't able to help at all and told me she would have a supervisor call me back by end of business yesterday which of course they didn't. looks like I'll have to waste more time today  :-\

On the Amex front, this is an additional fee charged by Amex to the suppliers for utilising their payment system above and beyond that which other banks charge. Many places refuse Amex because of this and there is no way you could get an invoice from Amex as it's part of the overall costs charged by Amex to Vorwerk Australia.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 04, 2014, 08:45:31 pm
Sorry to hear of the hassle you are having Wonder. :-*
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 04, 2014, 08:55:16 pm
Wonder,  I think you need to request a time frame for 'lost'.  With the parcel I sent OS. it was 6 months . You have done well to get the info you have obtained. Sounds like the Post process is Perth to Melbourne depot, ( mine was Tullarmarine)' then post to consultants nearest PO.

Katie,  you will have fun.  Not hard to learn the new tricks.  If you spill stuff and it runs down the bowl and the machine stops,  don't lay it on its side or back.  Clean it up and let it sit for 24 hours.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 04, 2014, 08:57:02 pm
You must be p***ed off by now, big time .

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 04, 2014, 09:01:25 pm
Uni, luckily for me I'm pretty laid back and I still have my TM31 so while I'm a little annoyed I'm OK but if  I can't get a timeframe and it takes much longer I will really get annoyed an consider just cancelling the order altogether and stick with what I've got. What probably annoys me more, is the low life that has actually stolen it from Australia Post. Apologies to anyone whose family or friends work as Australia post delivery people, but I've had too many issues with them over the last few years which leaves me wondering about the morals of the individuals they employ.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 04, 2014, 09:08:52 pm
how does the cooling off thing work for date that u signed the paperwork or from delivery
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 04, 2014, 09:44:28 pm
This is just one more issue with Vorwerks system. The thing was posted to the consultant so I see no problem with them "picking" another for you and sending it to the  consultant. She can then keep it for the next customer should it ever turn up. It is all paper shuffling .

This is typical of the lack of service and yet another nail in Grace's coffin which is just about full of complaints at the moment.

Obviously they are overwhelmed with problems but that is not OUR problem.

Personally. Wonder, I would cancel the whole thing, get my money back and wait a while.  I am not yet convinced the TM5 is the be all and end all with the niggling problems the machine is having. Seems to me they had a 10 year lead in and all these things should have been sorted with testing, testing and testing. The errors on the chip are unforgivable. That error 160 keeps  turning up purportedly due to two screws needing adjusting is ridiculous. This is not a cheap Chinese  knock off . It is a $2000 piece of precision machinery. 

I feel sorry for those girls out in the bush or in regional areas where the machine will take a week or more to get fixed. Not bloody fair.

All the problems have damaged the credibility of Grace and Vorwerk in general. I am not surprised that so many older consultants have had enough. The new ones won't last long and I see on FB some really bad advice and miss information is being disseminated buy rookie consultants. Some of them are just plain stupid with no idea having never even see a TMX until the day it arrived and they started their selling frenzy.  And it is also apparent that some of these new consultants not only have not mastered their machines but have no idea how to cook.  I should start collecting a few crazy "tips" I have read.  We could have a whole new thread on what not to do in your TM5.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 04, 2014, 10:05:19 pm
This is a great bit of advice given by a new consultant  to a new TM5 owner who  was complaining about burning. I saw this  on a FB page. "You have to be careful using recipes for the TMX31 in the TM5 as the heat is hotter"

ROFLMAO!

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 04, 2014, 10:16:02 pm
Gert, I was arguing with them about it being between Vorwerk and the consultant yesterday. i could understand a little better if it was being delivered directly to me as I'm and an unknown to them and could just as easily end up with two, but when it is being delivered to their consultant they should be able to sort it out behind the scenes and just get me one within a timeframe that is acceptable. Will be interesting to see what they say today.

"the heat is hotter" what a crack up  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 04, 2014, 11:30:11 pm
Wonder, I am with Gert.  I would cancel and wait.  Sure it has some desirable features but takes almost 2 minutes longer to get to 100 than 31.  I think they have incorporated too many "protect the machine" features.  I also believe the mistakes in the chip unforgivable.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 05, 2014, 12:22:11 am
good idea alicialph

start a new thread 
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on November 05, 2014, 01:10:36 am
alicialph has been kind enough to share with us the meaning of some of the trouble shooting codes of the TM5.  I have moved it to a thread of it's own here (http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=15986.0).  Thank you alicialph.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 05, 2014, 02:25:26 am
My consultant just rang to let me know that my order has gone back to the 'picking' stage but still have no idea how long it's going to take to get to me and they won't let her pick it up from the Melbourne depot. After talking with me she rang them back and they have now agreed to change it so she can at least pick it up but we still don't have an expected delivery date. She's saying maybe Friday but definitely by next Tuesday.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on November 05, 2014, 03:32:21 am
Nice to hear that your consultant is trying to get a machine to you Wonder.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 05, 2014, 04:54:39 am
I took my machine in to be fixed and in less than an hour they have called to say its ready and will be couriered out today.  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 05, 2014, 05:38:20 am
I've had that error come up CP. However I have been able to continue cooking by starting the machine up again.

Wonder I feel exasperated for you.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 05, 2014, 06:04:14 am
I wonder how many machines just need that wee tweak of the screws CP?  You are lucky  you don't live in "Whoop Whoop".

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 05, 2014, 06:40:23 am
i gave a forum member the wrong advice about unplugging from the powerpoint, i can't find that thread help
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Emme on November 05, 2014, 06:49:11 am
Uni, I think it was this one http://www.forumthermomix.com/index.php?topic=15982.0
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 05, 2014, 06:50:00 am
thanks Marie thats the one  :-*
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 05, 2014, 07:21:53 am
My consultant just rang to let me know that my order has gone back to the 'picking' stage but still have no idea how long it's going to take to get to me and they won't let her pick it up from the Melbourne depot. After talking with me she rang them back and they have now agreed to change it so she can at least pick it up but we still don't have an expected delivery date. She's saying maybe Friday but definitely by next Tuesday.

Pleased to hear you're having some progress and you may be getting your TM5 soon Wonder. Fingers crossed that it proceeds smoothly this time.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Kimmyh on November 05, 2014, 08:26:59 am
It all just stinks wonder. Feel so sorry for you and hope it all gets sorted quickly so you can get back to being excited about your new machine.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 05, 2014, 09:47:44 am
they did the tweak, but they replaced the arms and the button at the back, plus something with the heat thingumy, and also got my weight corrected as it was flickering between 0-5g. I just put my machine in the car and rocked up at the service dept unannounced and they were very efficient in getting it back to me without any dramas. No complaints from me so I'm giving them the thumbs up.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 05, 2014, 10:05:06 am
Why would a brand new $2000 machine need all that service in the first place?

Gert
Title: TM5
Post by: Bootobethin on November 05, 2014, 10:27:40 am
I am so glad I have decided NOT to upgrade and get a TM 5!
Too many issues with too many machines.
With my TM31 and new blades mine feels new and works perfectly.
I expect my TM31 to keep working for many years to come.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 05, 2014, 11:23:23 am
That's good to hear CP.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 05, 2014, 11:40:22 am
I hope there us some sort of goodwill gesture Wonder, you have been so patient.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 05, 2014, 07:31:18 pm
Bedlam, I don't expect a good will getsure as I know that comes from the consultant and not head office and I don't think she is at fault in any of this.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 06, 2014, 07:08:42 am
I just made ricotta  http://www.superkitchenmachine.com/2011/12574/make-ricotta-thermomix-recipe.html  in the 5 and now have 1 litre of whey. Of course I added 50 gms of vinegar to make the curds so it is in the whey but you cannot taste it. I am wondering if I should just use it as I  would regular whey?

Anyone done this?

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 06, 2014, 09:14:24 am
Gert i think but not 100% sure have used the whey from ricotta  to make bread
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 06, 2014, 09:20:19 am
I ain't wasting it uni so have devided it and will freeze 500 gms and use the other for something.  I mean it has cream in it so pretty rich.

While you are  here Uni. What do you think.........

Make some pasta dough in the TMX then roll it out with a rolling pin instead of using the pasta maker which is a pain in the assand needs three hands. Could I just roll,the dough out thin and make rag pasta? Would that work ok?

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 06, 2014, 09:22:53 am
Gert, I have used the whey in bread.  Seems ok.
Won't bother to make yoghurt in 5 again.  No better than my usual method and it doesn't tie up the machine for the day.
Title: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 06, 2014, 09:34:59 am
As I thought. On FB I see some very silly girls staying up late to make sure the chime does not go off at three am. Makes me laugh Should be in inbuilt delay start or just buy a timer to plug in the wall I say.  For goodness sake use your common sense .

Oh BTW. My consultant had a TM5 that had a green seal inside her lid. Mine does not. Anyone else have a green seal in the lid? She particularly mentioned it as the new be all. I also see that some TM5 s do not have the green seal on the blades. There seems to be some inconsistency  in the hardware of these new machines. Mine has a green seal. Anyone else?
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/06/e4b22b1d3264e02e8b9329d9939f20ae.jpg)

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 06, 2014, 09:37:24 am
no my T5 doesn't have a green seal on the lid, only the blades
Title: Re:
Post by: shellshadies on November 06, 2014, 09:39:49 am
My TM5 has the green seal around the blades, but not in the lid
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 06, 2014, 09:43:24 am
Not on the lid Gert but a green seal on the blades.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 06, 2014, 09:51:31 am
Only on the Blades.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on November 06, 2014, 09:52:05 am
Same here - blade, not lid.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 06, 2014, 10:13:25 am
That is  interesting.

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 06, 2014, 11:32:30 am
I just had to get up and check. Mine is only green under the blades.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 06, 2014, 04:12:23 pm
I ain't wasting it uni so have devided it and will freeze 500 gms and use the other for something.  I mean it has cream in it so pretty rich.

While you are  here Uni. What do you think.........

Make some pasta dough in the TMX then roll it out with a rolling pin instead of using the pasta maker which is a pain in the assand needs three hands. Could I just roll,the dough out thin and make rag pasta? Would that work ok?

Gert
yes it will work
once you have rolled it out roll it up then slice it , make sure u use plenty of flour when rolling it up
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 06, 2014, 09:40:17 pm
Gert, I always used to hand roll my pasta and never had any problems. The pictures Uni has put in are the same as we used to do.

I read the green seals are the new seals to replace thos on the machines that had the seal issue a month or so ago.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 06, 2014, 10:10:24 pm
Thanks uni and Wonder re pasta.

Yes they are sending out new green seals for the TM31 not talking about that one.

But I am telling you that my consultant has  brand new TM5 which had the green seal in the lid of her new machine. We all remarked on it at the demo.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 06, 2014, 11:31:52 pm
Strange Gert, mine has a green seal on the blades but not on the lid.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 07, 2014, 12:07:08 am
Special demonstrators models maybe?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on November 08, 2014, 12:11:12 am
Green  seal on the blades, bright yellow seal on the lid, however that is due to tumeric 😄
Rag pasta, I have never heard of that before, sounds like an awesome idea!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 08, 2014, 12:19:11 am
That's interesting, I wonder if that was why the consultants all got their machines first. I can't see why they would have a different seal for a demo.  Perhaps they were originally thinking of having a green seal instead of clear but then clear won. What I'm wondering is how long the seal lasts for, and how much it costs to get a new lid  ???
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on November 08, 2014, 03:07:23 am
I was wondering about seal replacement too. They can not last forever. It is interesting all you TM31 owners are preferring your original machine. I have nothing to compare it too, but I love what I have. I will mention your thoughts on the comparison to my sister, she purchased in June and is a little bit miffed, well a lot really. Your thoughts may make her feel better.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 08, 2014, 05:24:55 am
Like anything essie it takes a bit of time and effort to update to a new technology when you have been using thenTM31 for so many years. But we WILL get there.

Basically there is absolutely no difference in the performance of the machines. It is still the great machine it has been. I think it just introduces a whole new generation of not so wonderful cooks to a way of cooking their grandmothers never imagined.. There is a bit of handholding and guiding that takes the place of the mothers that used to teach their interested children into the world of custard cooking. The chip contains recipes that are very basic and really no challenge to inventive  creative cooks. Still it is the way of the world where busy women need to be told step by step how to create a meal.

I find it hysterical how so many now need to spend. 14 minutes cooking a scrambled egg in the TM5  when it could be done in one minute in the stove.... but that is the mind set . A real time saver yes?

The effort that goes into preparing children's meals in the TMX is exhausting . Us old farts just used to mash up what we had , add a bit of milk and nobody died. Now we have to pulverise, put it into PLASTIC pouches for kids to inhale so as not to make a mess to clean up. How kids learn about colour, texture and flavour is a worry. We never hid vegetables. Now with the TMX we can hide a myriad of great vegetables in a "bolognaise"  to what end?  They will never know what a real Italian fine dish is much less that a carrot is  actually orange and can be quite sweet and delicious on it's own.

I won't bring my soapbox out  but I do tend to despair that the new TM5 makes it too easy for some to become mediocre cooks relying on a "chip" to make every meal. At this moment hundreds are chumping  at the bits for a new chip instead of learning, inventing  and challenging themselves in the kitchen.

You are lucky to have found us here essie. Take advantage of the sound minds and skills of hundreds of great cooks and do your own thing.

Gert

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: stacelee on November 08, 2014, 06:11:25 am
Gert,  I know where you are coming from about food for babies and kids.  My poor children never had special meals cooked for them...I worked full time (still do!) and didn't have time to prepare two different meals.  When they first started on solids, they had whatever vegetables we were eating mushed up with a bit of natural yoghurt....later they just ate whatever we ate.  My son was a bit fussier than my daughter until he was about 10 but my daughter has always eaten anything that didn't move (we always swore she would have a go at it if it did anyway).

I was considering upgrading to the TM5 but am struggling to see any real value in doing it.  I've actually sent the Robot Cook back to work and its been sold as a demo machine because I really wasn't using it enough to justify having it sitting there now that I know how to use it.  Reading more about the issues that some are having with the TM5 and the fact that the delivery time is blown out to nearly 8 weeks, I am struggling to justify giving TM more money.  I have always been vocal about disliking their business model and it seems almost hypocritical to buy the TM5 (even though my inner geek is REALLY wanting one).  The recipe chip is really a gimmick to me because I very rarely cook out of the TM books...I tend to convert on the fly or use recipes from here.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Amanda on November 08, 2014, 06:22:04 am
Very well said Gert.

I've heard some chefs complain that, aside from the wonderful whizzing,chopping.pureeing it can do, the TM distances one from the cooking process as it's all joyless button pushing and invisible processes as you don't see what's going on in it.

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 08, 2014, 06:42:43 am
I agree Stacelee. Apart from a nice new shiny machine it is a pain in the ass to have to wait and wait after whizzing my mango on 10 for a few seconds to have to wait more time than I whizz to open the damn thing. Really annoying.

I don't quite agree with the chefs. But I do despair of those new users that follow,the chip exactly then complain the food is bland and not like they normally make. Lordy give me strength. Cause  and effect. They seem to make no connection and have no idea how to rectify. I am not going to read anymore on FB it is too depressing. Have these girls no common sense at all. Trying to make a risotto never having eaten one professionally cooked is  a recipe for disaster. They have no idea how it should look or taste and then they reheat it in the microwave and declare it perfect. Ugh!

"How long does it take to boil and egg in the TMX ,what speed, temp and how much water?? I ask them how long does it take on the stove using how much water and what speed is the water boiling at. Basically if they listen to themselves they would know the answer but they need for someone to reassure them. 

Then they go and read a really ridiculous recipe in the recipe community and wonder why it does not work.

You just cannot help stupid.

I am getting back in the pool with a glass of and read my Kindle.

Gert
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Post by: Jamberie on November 08, 2014, 06:50:56 am
Amen! Yes, I feel sorry for many of those on fb Gert. If only they had visited here first!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 08, 2014, 07:24:48 am
OMG, Gert .  Don't drop the Kindle in the pool.
Seriously,  I agree with what is being said,  however for some , good home made food is not a number 1 priority.  Push the buttons,  follow the instructions and eat gunk . It is still better than take away.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 08, 2014, 09:32:34 am
Today I used my TM5 a few times and I have to say, I'm really enjoying it.  I've always thought my TM31 was awesome and I feel the same way about the new one.  I've found the TM5 to be quieter than my 31, it certainly doesn't move around like the 31, and I think pushing the buttons is pretty cool.  I haven't found the logging or unlocking of the lid annoying at all.

I did a recipe following the chip the other night and it was easy to follow.  Although I didn't follow it blindly, I added a couple of extra things, adjusted the chopping times, and tasted along the way to see if it needed more seasoning etc.  I guess that's the difference in knowing how to cook or just starting out and expecting the recipes on the chip will turn out perfectly. 

Chookie I agree - anything home made is better than take away.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 08, 2014, 09:42:22 am
Pleased you are enjoying your new machine Katie.  I like the recipe chip and like you amend to our taste.  I think it will help new users get used to this way of cooking quicker.  It does take a while for it to be intuitive.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 08, 2014, 11:06:17 am
I love my TM31, love my T5, love the chip (I am hopeless at remembering what I have just read from a recipe so having it on the screen is good for me ie. I can never remember even how to make custard but I do remember that I like about 12g of cornflour to make the consistency I prefer), love the EDC and the Basic Cookbook as they are good reference books to start with. I think that with the release of the 5 that there are now so many Facebook sites that have sprung up and I am going to stop notifications on FB from coming through on some of them because I'm not learning anything and the same old topics keep coming up and I find that generally a lot of new mums try and compete with each other to be supermums which I have always found to be sickening. As Gretch said who really wants to know how to hide more veggies? BTW I don't see the point in those pouches and they would be a pain to clean all the time, and I can't work out why a sipper cup is not good enough or a straw. Having said that I don't learn anything from FB I did learn a really good way to cut a scroll and made a Vegemite & Cheese bread the other night using the Pizza Dough recipe from the Basic Cookbook. I don't mind that my T5 had to have a bit of a service as I knew full well when I bought it that something like this was probably going to happen but now I feel like everything has been ironed out. The chip recipe mistakes though - unforgiveable! Even on the recipe community website where they advise about the errors they have quoted the wrong page for Poached Eggs...
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 08, 2014, 11:42:43 am
I love the 31 and the 5. I find I am using them both every day, often multiple times. I adore being able to knead dough and make lots of things that need stirring all the time.
I do find that some people expect owning a thermomix will turn them into a brilliant cook in no time, and most annoying of all is that people won't think for themselves. There is nothing like learning basic skills at Mothers or Grandmothers knee. DD informs me that if you can read and taste you can cook.  :D :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 08, 2014, 12:50:35 pm
CP please share your scroll cutting with us. I have not had a problem but no doubt could try a different way if needed. I would like to make some mini ones.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 08, 2014, 01:00:27 pm
One thing I really like  bout the TM5 is that I no longer have to have an LED night light on it to protect it from critters.  I also like poaching eggs in it as it never fails.

Gert.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: BeezeeBee on November 08, 2014, 02:40:16 pm
Enjoyed reading your down-to-earth comments, Gert 😄
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on November 08, 2014, 11:13:41 pm
I called into Katie's the other day to see her new TM5.  It looks a lot better than I expected or is that because I've seen so many pictures of one now that I'm getting used to it  ;)  She gave me a quick run down on how it works, I like the new "I'm finished" music, the chip was a lot smaller than I pictured and I like the fact you can keep it on the fridge door (unless you have stainless steel) where it won't get lost.  I didn't see a problem with the arm (apart from if there's a power failure and you can't open it), it worked pretty efficiently as far as I could see.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on November 08, 2014, 11:24:58 pm
another one here that doesn't hide veges from kids..

great comments Gert.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on November 09, 2014, 12:42:13 am
Love that you don't hide veggies, love that you still get out the pan to make scrambled egg. Have read a few recipes for "roasting" chicken in the varoma...and can't understand why you would do that?? (I am open to your thoughts if you think it produces a better result, but to me I will have the oven on to cook the veggies any way and I love the taste of roast or a webber in summertime)

How I explain the TM5 at work, is if you are not a confident cook then the chip is great and it will work you through the steps. On behalf of my consultant I am "selling it" to a few single blokes who like to eat. But then if you do like to cook then I explain it is a great set of extra hands in the kitchen.

As for the FB sites, I have joined up to a few with great enthusiasm, however the repetitive nature  of the delivery date discussion, pantry before and after shots and the talk of building a herb garden has got a bit monotonous. To put it into context though, I do work full time, have no littlies, don't need to stock the pantry up with new ingredients as I have always cooked from scratch (or I go out), and I have always grown fresh herbs even when I was renting. Apparently there is a list of pantry items you "have to" buy before your TM arrives, which did make me giggle.

I think though, I am just shy of 50, that for my generation Home Economics at school as looked down upon...and a lot of skills about how to cook from scratch, reinvent left overs to make a new meal have all gone out the door.( For instance, my mum always had a bowl of stock in the fridge made from a chicken carcas etc, however I notice it is now back in vogue, called bone broth and is lauded as some kind of superfood) So this means that some young parents have only ever known processed food and flavours. I guess they are looking for familiar containers and tastes.

Anyway, time to get off my soap box and go clean my study..wish I had done that before the TM arrived!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 09, 2014, 03:45:30 am
Lunch today using  yesterday's chicken, very rustic pie with the short crust made in the TM5, the puff frozen. Vegetables first  steamed in the Varoma while the sweet potato was cooking and then covered with 3 cheese sauce made in TM5.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/08/9c6bf61314d431577a1f29b88f19dacd.jpg)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 09, 2014, 03:56:18 am
Essie you sound like my kind a woman. You better book in for the weekend in Melbourne  next October. You will fit right in and we would love to meet ha.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on November 09, 2014, 06:58:57 am
That looks awesome Gert..and I note the use of left over chicken😄
 I think it would be lovely to meet in person.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 09, 2014, 07:37:32 am
Slightly older than you Essie , but here what you are saying. I think when I first got  my 31 I wanted to use it for everything, you soon learn where it excels and use common sense.
Home ec wasn't fashionable when I went to school but neither was I. My Dh reckons it's one class that I have continued to benefit from.
FB is worth gleaning over, I still pick up odd helpful tips, a lot to cull though.
Agree with Gert try and come to Melbourne next Oct.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 09, 2014, 11:32:23 am
Essie we would love you to come to Melbourne next year.

I had a few problems with my 5 this afternoon. Error 160 where the machine closes down. I was able to re start it immediately but I think I will have to get it fixed.  :'(
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 09, 2014, 11:36:22 am
It's sounds as though your TM5 needs attention Cookie. :'(
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on November 09, 2014, 11:38:15 am
Do you have a trick to poached eggs, Gert? Mine never turn out. They tend to go everywhere when I pour them in.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 09, 2014, 11:54:29 am
CP please share your scroll cutting with us. I have not had a problem but no doubt could try a different way if needed. I would like to make some mini ones.

Gert

There's a video on FB - Thermomumma
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on November 09, 2014, 07:40:17 pm
My TM5 was delivered Wednesday evening, exactly 5 1/2 weeks after ordering. I have been living in a state of combined excitement and dread. If anyone is going to get a faulty electrical appliance, it is almost always me. Well, I've been giving it a good workout and not a hiccup, not an error code!

My lovely consultant said that TM has a chip that they can use to fix the faulty ones? I don't know anything more than that. She told me to make a list of any variation between the book and the chip and she will get it taken care of. She also said the rumour is that an own cookbook chip should be available 'in a couple of years'. No idea how it will work, but I expect it will tie in with the official recipe sites. Maybe it will be possible to download recipes posted there, ours and other people's. If it's not editable enough to allow user notes, I still don't see myself using it. However, if TM ever cracks the U.S. market, I expect 'jailbroken' chips and readers will start appearing 😄
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 09, 2014, 08:09:19 pm
Good news that you now have your TM5 LIllyPilly. ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 09, 2014, 08:25:22 pm
Congratulations LillyPilly, have fun.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on November 09, 2014, 09:06:32 pm
Thanks guys. Wonder, I feel guilty for enjoying it so much while you are still in limbo, even though you ordered yours earlier than I did  :-[   You could always ring ACA, or one of its ilk, as long as you don't mind being a public spectacle. Can you sob on cue?
Title: Re:
Post by: Jamberie on November 09, 2014, 09:42:53 pm
I wish someone could work out how to jailbreak the TM5. That could be very handy indeed.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on November 09, 2014, 10:01:38 pm
Jamberie, it's bound to happen, sooner or later. I want a recipe chip reader and a programme to let me write to the thing. Another good reason to expand the market, the more people who use a TM, the greater the chance of a tech savvy owner, or friend of owner actually doing it.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 09, 2014, 10:58:30 pm
LillyPilly, don't feel bad enjoy it while you are so excited, mine will come sometime soon I'm sure. I do admit to feeling a little annoyed when a recent member had already received and sold hers before I've even managed to get mine, but that's the way things go. I finally managed to get some time to cook a few things this weekend and I did think it would be nice to have the new machine but then thought about how many times I would need to wash the single bowl and was glad for my TM31 with it's two bowls. I'm always telling my kids "good things come to those who wait" so just need to be patient and take my own advice.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 09, 2014, 11:05:23 pm
I do love your positive outlook Wonder.  I feel awful too as I am sure you ordered the day before me.
Fingers crossed for this week.
There will be a forum celebration when it arrives.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 09, 2014, 11:43:49 pm
Do you have a trick to poached eggs, Gert? Mine never turn out. They tend to go everywhere when I pour them in.
I use either silicone moulds in the varoma or take a small cup, line  it with glad wrap, drop the egg in, twist the top and steam in varoma.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on November 10, 2014, 12:00:41 am
Wonder, I too applaud your patience and attitude. There's nothing you can do about it, raving and ranting will get you no-where and is a waste of energy.  I'm sure they are on your case and feeling bad about it too.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 10, 2014, 12:09:10 am
Wonder I am another who admires your attitude, although I do try to be the same. I rant and rave on here and then feel better about things.
I think with it being the second machine, things aren't quite as bad. Lots of gold stars to you.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 10, 2014, 06:57:52 am
Wonder, I'm another who admires your attitude.  Wish I was as stoic.  I think I would be on a plane to Perth and be tearing someone's hair out.  Not mine. I must admit, though that I am missing my two bowls.
Won't be happy with the Chip until I can load on my fav recipes. I know a young man who as a 15 year old , tought himself to hack.  I had no idea what this was and thought it very clever.  He is brilliant with computers so might set him a task. Probably illegal,  no doubt protected by copyright.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 10, 2014, 07:08:08 am
I am missing my second bowl as well.


If only it was a USB. I would e sooooooo much more useful.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 10, 2014, 07:35:54 am
I'd say using a "hacked" or otherwise non official chip would void your TMX warranty.
In sure HO and Vorverk will want to stop it happening by using all means.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 10, 2014, 08:49:53 am
I also admire your attitude Wonder. :-*

Missing my second bowl too.Ordered it the same time as my TM5 but they don't know when they will be in stock for delivery :-)) They offered a refund but I declined.No point.Apparently I will receive an extra spatula for my patience :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on November 10, 2014, 09:10:20 am
LillyPilly, don't feel bad enjoy it while you are so excited, mine will come sometime soon I'm sure. I do admit to feeling a little annoyed when a recent member had already received and sold hers before I've even managed to get mine, but that's the way things go. I finally managed to get some time to cook a few things this weekend and I did think it would be nice to have the new machine but then thought about how many times I would need to wash the single bowl and was glad for my TM31 with it's two bowls. I'm always telling my kids "good things come to those who wait" so just need to be patient and take my own advice.

I will try to concentrate on being envious of your second bowl  :-)). I only hope you don't have to be patient for the length of time it will take Australia Post to admit it is missing. I can't see how this should be your problem.


I'd say using a "hacked" or otherwise non official chip would void your TMX warranty.
In sure HO and Vorverk will want to stop it happening by using all means.
The warranty is only two years. I don't expect to see a bootleg chip any time soon. As far as Voerwork being unhappy about it, I imagine they will be, but if Microsoft and Apple can't control post sale consumer behaviour, I doubt Voerwork will be more successful.


If only it was a USB. I would e sooooooo much more useful.

Gert

Couldn't agree more. I hope the proprietary chip will eventually prove to have been an arrogant, but pointless decision.

I described my Thermomix to the consultant as the Apple of Kitchen Appliances. It is the original, much copied innovator and better built, but never goes on sale and doesn't play nicely with others.  :)
Title: Re:
Post by: Jamberie on November 10, 2014, 10:04:52 am
Yes LillyPilly, I've used that comparison between Apple and Thermomix myself....hence the HMP was so appealing when I first bought my tmx. The limitations of the chip upon clever recipe developers such as Tenina and Alyce could be seen by some as a good move. However one just needs to look at how Android is taking over Apple's market share to see this may be short lived.
In fact I am sure I would have upgraded my tm31 if I could modify chip (or even better USB) contents.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 10, 2014, 11:36:02 am
I also admire your attitude Wonder. :-*

Missing my second bowl too.Ordered it the same time as my TM5 but they don't know when they will be in stock for delivery :-)) They offered a refund but I declined.No point.Apparently I will receive an extra spatula for my patience :D

Like you want another crapp spatula!!

Yes LillyPilly, I've used that comparison between Apple and Thermomix myself....hence the HMP was so appealing when I first bought my tmx. The limitations of the chip upon clever recipe developers such as Tenina and Alyce could be seen by some as a good move. However one just needs to look at how Android is taking over Apple's market share to see this may be short lived.
In fact I am sure I would have upgraded my tm31 if I could modify chip (or even better USB) contents.

I agree Jamberie. I think there  will be another Thermomix much  sooner than the last . Technology and the wannabes will be uping their game. Vorwerk have the good basics,down pat but this added technology missed the  mark and has irritated  a lot of dedicated customers. Even me a dedicated TM lover will be looking elsewhere in the future. Their marketing department sucks. It could have been soooooo much better, more innovative and hit the ever changing market for six but for the fact it is a privately held company and not particularly forward thinking. They  not have to answer to shareholders. They have a European mentality and are really not up with the New World of business,which  moves a lot faster than they are used to..

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 10, 2014, 12:03:35 pm
I think in years to come, we will all look back with awe at the TM31.  It was ahead of the others for many,many years.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 10, 2014, 08:46:04 pm
I also admire your attitude Wonder. :-*

Missing my second bowl too.Ordered it the same time as my TM5 but they don't know when they will be in stock for delivery :-)) They offered a refund but I declined.No point.Apparently I will receive an extra spatula for my patience :D

Like you want another crapp spatula!!

Yes LillyPilly, I've used that comparison between Apple and Thermomix myself....hence the HMP was so appealing when I first bought my tmx. The limitations of the chip upon clever recipe developers such as Tenina and Alyce could be seen by some as a good move. However one just needs to look at how Android is taking over Apple's market share to see this may be short lived.
In fact I am sure I would have upgraded my tm31 if I could modify chip (or even better USB) contents.

I agree Jamberie. I think there  will be another Thermomix much  sooner than the last . Technology and the wannabes will be uping their game. Vorwerk have the good basics,down pat but this added technology missed the  mark and has irritated  a lot of dedicated customers. Even me a dedicated TM lover will be looking elsewhere in the future. Their marketing department sucks. It could have been soooooo much better, more innovative and hit the ever changing market for six but for the fact it is a privately held company and not particularly forward thinking. They  not have to answer to shareholders. They have a European mentality and are really not up with the New World of business,which  moves a lot faster than they are used to..

Couldn't agree more.  Don't they realize that making it more easily available to different recipes they would sell more.  If people with different recipe preferences had easier access to making what they prefer,  through a chip of THEIR choice , and not one controlled by TMX, they would sell more. They need to move forward,  and fast.

Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 10, 2014, 09:04:23 pm
Thanks everyone. Maybe today will be the day  ;D I'm very busy with work at the moment (as always) but am working from home all of this week just in case it is able to be delivered.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 10, 2014, 09:47:55 pm
fingers crossed for you Wonder
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: LillyPilly on November 10, 2014, 10:13:10 pm
Vorwerk have the good basics,down pat but this added technology missed the  mark and has irritated  a lot of dedicated customers. Even me a dedicated TM lover will be looking elsewhere in the future. Their marketing department sucks. It could have been soooooo much better, more innovative and hit the ever changing market for six but for the fact it is a privately held company and not particularly forward thinking. They  not have to answer to shareholders. They have a European mentality and are really not up with the New World of business,which  moves a lot faster than they are used to..

Gert

When I told my friend I'd come to her demo, I didn't even know there was a new model. I would have been perfectly happy with the 31. Fewer bells and whistles mean less to potentially go wrong.

I don't understand Vorwerk's partial embracing of available technology. Even my BBQ thermometer can talk to my phone or an iPad!

There are some advantages to a wholly owned company. They can take a longer range view, not having to appease investors who may have much shorter term goals. I only hope Vorwerk have maintained the same ethos that allowed them to produce the TM31, with its phenomenal durability. If I can't have robust durability, I want an iPhone dock, not locking arms  :-\

Fingers crossed for you, Wonder
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 10, 2014, 11:40:45 pm
I can't believe it - my consultant just rang to say she went to the Tullamarine depot on the off chance it was there and it was!!! TMX headoffice hadn't bothered to let her know it was there so I could have still been waiting if she hadn't of gone out. She also let me know that the group leader has provided a thermosaver free of charge as an apology. She is coming by in about an hour to drop it off.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: courton on November 10, 2014, 11:58:13 pm
Excellent news. What a saga Wonder.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 11, 2014, 12:01:32 am
And so the saga continues.
However, that is fantastic news and I am very happy for you Wonder.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on November 11, 2014, 12:32:06 am
Happy days Wonder, enjoy your new machine.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 11, 2014, 12:36:22 am
You have a good  consultant. Enjoy.

Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: jeninwa on November 11, 2014, 12:36:34 am
Fantastic new wonder, I'm so happy for you.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: MacGuffin on November 11, 2014, 12:40:17 am
Their marketing department sucks. It could have been soooooo much better, more innovative and hit the ever changing market for six but for the fact it is a privately held company and not particularly forward thinking. They  not have to answer to shareholders. They have a European mentality and are really not up with the New World of business,which  moves a lot faster than they are used to..
You undoubtedly have a point there Gert, but a privately held company isn't necessarily behind the times. Vitamix has always been family-owned and they sell many millions of machines (with a repair staff of four--a very reliable product). Granted, they've kept up with the times by screwing their demonstrators (I had a hunch the current CEO was going to be creepy when she assumed control) and including those stupid pre-sets on some models à la Blendtec, but they're going great guns, including in Europe and Asia. KoMo, which is also privately held, has a sort of dual headquarters in Germany and Austria and they're also doing well internationally (although not everyone wants to grind their own flour), as are Esge (Bamix) in Switzerland and Ankarsrum (stand mixers) in Sweden. I don't know what Vorwerk's problem is.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Aussie Brenda on November 11, 2014, 12:41:34 am
Thank goodness for that Wonder, what a fiasco this has been, thank goodness for the forum and all the support offered, enjoy your machine.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Shellbo on November 11, 2014, 12:49:31 am
Yay! I'm very happy for you wonder...enjoy your new toy
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on November 11, 2014, 01:55:32 am
Great news Wonder, enjoy!!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 11, 2014, 02:27:14 am
Wonder you will not be able to do any work today so you may as well resign yourself to a day in the kitchen  ;) I'm so happy for you!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 11, 2014, 02:27:17 am
fantastic news
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Post by: cookie1 on November 11, 2014, 06:42:36 am
Absolutely fantastic news Wonder.

YIPPEE
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 11, 2014, 07:11:56 am
Great news Wonder.  What will you make first. .?
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 11, 2014, 07:15:24 am
It looks as though T5 has to go to hospital. I have had the error C160 a few times but today when I was making bread it just kept coming up and shutting the machine down. Disappointing. However I had Mr Wonderful T31 to finish off the kneading for me.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 11, 2014, 07:17:35 am
 :( and  >:(
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Emme on November 11, 2014, 07:41:20 am
So glad you finally have your machine Wonder.  Enjoy your cooking

Cookie, sorry to hear your machine is not going so well, good thing you had the 31 to finish the job
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 11, 2014, 07:50:29 am
Cookie what a shame, it's almost like the TM5 was released to test us all  ;D

Unfortunately I won't be able to have much of a play until the weekend. I'm just cooking rice to go with our dinner and cut up onions and garlic for the dish i was cooking. I noticed the garlic/onion chopped really well and quickly while the rice is taking longer than I'm used to. I'm hoping to make custard but have some work to do tonight and a late call so don't know if I'll manage it. I'm very happy that it's on my bench top and I can start to use it.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on November 11, 2014, 08:29:23 am
Get the kids to do it Wonder  ;D 

It's been building up for a while cookie, best get it off to the doctor and fixed.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: fundj&e on November 11, 2014, 08:31:41 am
not sure where to put this

 If you have obtained the Basic Cookbook and Recipe Chip, here are the notes to accompany. The below are notes on discrepancies between what is printed in the cookbook and displayed on the recipe chip.

Recipe Chip

Meat stock paste (pg. 64):

The quantity of red wine to use is stated as 30 g on Recipe Chip. For the best results, we recommend increasing the quantity of red wine to 120 g red wine as per the Basic Cookbook. ‘The recipe will work with both quantities of wine, the paste will simply be drier in consistency when using 30 g red wine as per the Chip.’

Chicken stock paste (pg. 66):

The quantity of Mixed white roots and vegetables is listed as 200 g on the Recipe Chip. We recommend increasing the quantity of mixed white roots to 300 g as stated in the Basic Cookbook. The recipe will work with both quantities of vegetables, the paste will simply be drier in consistency when using 200 g vegetables as per the Chip.

Poached eggs (pg. 86)

Please add more water to the mixing bowl until the basket is sufficiently filled so that the eggs can be properly submerged in the stirring water.

Heating times for the water will need to be increased accordingly until the water boils. For the best results, please ensure the water is boiling before adding the eggs. (Cookbook and Recipe Chip)

Meatloaf with mushroom sauce (pg. 136-138):

Switch to manual cooking mode after adding final sauce ingredients and cook 2 min/80°C/Reverse/speed 1. The sauce will still work without the final cooking time it will simply be a thinner consistency.

Herb and garlic pull-apart (pg. 228)

To reserve the buttermilk from your butter to use in other recipes, strain your butter at the end of step 2. (Cookbook and Recipe Chip)

Home-style sponge cake (pg. 316)

Please insert butterfly before adding your cream in step 8. (Cookbook and Recipe Chip)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 11, 2014, 08:38:01 am
wonder, my rice wasn't cooking like the TM31 but I think the difference was the recipe in the EDC says to wash it first whereas the chip says to just weigh it in without washing.

Don't worry cookie, once your machine has a service it will be as good as new. Oh that's right - it is new  ;)

I'm not surprised even that the corrections are not correct -  the page number of the Poached Eggs is  wrong - its on p84  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 11, 2014, 08:44:24 am
Fantastic news Wonder that your TM5 has arrived at last  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 11, 2014, 08:54:31 am
Thanks CP. I'm relying on mine to be mended as quickly as yours. I will take it in toward the end of next week as I'm pretty tied up early next week.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 11, 2014, 09:24:18 am
Oh dear Cookie.  I haven't given mine a very good workout yet cause I still haven't got a b***** oven.

Wonder, do have fun.  You deserve it.

Uni, thanks for posting the corrections .
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Kimmyh on November 11, 2014, 11:19:52 am
Great news wonder. Happy cooking when you find the time.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: mcmich on November 11, 2014, 11:21:14 am
I'm enjoying my TMX5.  :D
I did receive an email saying my credit card had been declined on the easy three payments. ???????
I paid upfront.
All sorted - apparently the email had been sent accidentally.  
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on November 11, 2014, 12:33:22 pm
Blimey that must have been at bit of a shock Michele. :o
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 12, 2014, 12:34:41 am
I'm enjoying my TMX5.  :D
I did receive an email saying my credit card had been declined on the easy three payments. ???????
I paid upfront.
All sorted - apparently the email had been sent accidentally.  

Still a bit scarey
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: kyton on November 12, 2014, 03:18:34 am
Haven't done any cooking since the weekend. One of my best friends received her new TM5 last night so I've had lots of fun writing tips, recipes, blogs and FB pages as well as this forum for her to use.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Thermesa on November 12, 2014, 11:38:15 am
Apparently tmx has deposited $100 in my account. Some soul processed my purchase the week after I ordered it at the new price. Glad my husband picked it up straight away.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Thermesa on November 12, 2014, 11:38:33 am
Wonderful news Wonder.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Essie on November 12, 2014, 02:24:39 pm
My husband is really taking to using the TM5. He had the day off and I unexpectedly came home to a TMX dinner. He used both guided cooking and more impressively the Internet to make some dishes for a Mexican styled meal. I was happily surprised.. usually he is in charge of meat on the BBQ and making salad from a packet. I heard his son talking about my last demo and he said to his Dad as soon as I have a spare $2000 I am buying one too...clearly blokes find this style of cooking quite accessible.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 12, 2014, 02:59:27 pm
Yes essie, that's a high five!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 12, 2014, 07:21:04 pm
Essie,  that is great.  Yesterday was talking to a car salesman who has a 5.   I was really surprised at what he was cooking.  Cinnamon scrolls, spaghetti Bol, and meat balls. His 4 year old son loves the machine and pulls up a stool to watch it work.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on November 13, 2014, 09:59:36 am
great Essie :)
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Post by: meganjane on November 13, 2014, 12:00:47 pm
Wow! My husband only knows how to use the kettle and the toaster....  :-))
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katj on November 13, 2014, 11:54:01 pm
I have the TM31 and my husband uses it  quite often. Maybe I should upgrade, he may want to use it even more!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: astarra on November 14, 2014, 03:22:10 am
My DH loves my our thermieS as much as I do - I just get more time to use them!!!  ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Wonder on November 14, 2014, 05:59:00 am
I think I might be the first TM5 casualty - I was quickly wiping out the bowl yesterday monring after making my smoothie which is something I do every day and the blades put a decent cut in my finger. They are obviously a lot sharper than even the new blades I got earlier this year.

Also, my consultant sent me a text this morning to say my original machine has shown up at the post office. 3 weeks after it was sent from about 25km away!!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 14, 2014, 06:32:43 am
The machine showing up is unbelievable Wonder. I haven't cut myself but the blades are certainly sharper, I've come close a few times.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on November 14, 2014, 07:50:16 am
Warned ya! They
 are really really sharp!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 14, 2014, 09:26:11 am
Speaking to someone today who also cut finger on blades.  Mine tried to poke a hole in my finger.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Thermesa on November 16, 2014, 04:01:18 am
Thanks for the warning re the blades. With my recent luck I don't want the new toy to hurt me as well.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Bedlam on November 16, 2014, 09:29:47 pm
My thermie has taken some chunks from my new spatulas, thankfully not my fingers...yet!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: JulieO on November 17, 2014, 07:34:48 am
I finally saw one in person today (at my dtr's).  Nice looking machine and dtr loves it.  :D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Shellbo on November 18, 2014, 01:05:11 am
Does anyone know how long it should take to arrive in Melbourne once it's been dispatched?
My consultant told me a week and a half ago that it had been dispatched and should arrive within a few days, but i'm still eagerly waiting
I hope it hasn't run off looking to make baby thermies with Wonder's walkabout one  ;)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: CreamPuff63 on November 19, 2014, 06:01:44 am
T5 bags available now, click here (http://www.thermomix.com.au/accessories/3/)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on November 19, 2014, 06:23:25 am
Thanks CP,  but I would much rather have a second bowl.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: bluebear_74 on November 19, 2014, 07:09:05 am
Does anyone know how long it should take to arrive in Melbourne once it's been dispatched?
My consultant told me a week and a half ago that it had been dispatched and should arrive within a few days, but i'm still eagerly waiting
I hope it hasn't run off looking to make baby thermies with Wonder's walkabout one  ;)

Mine took exactly a week from it being picked till my consultant picking it up at the post office.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on November 19, 2014, 08:07:51 am
I'm going to keep taking the 31 away with me. No need for a new bag then.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: SoBlessed on December 17, 2014, 07:41:57 am
I took delivery of my new TM5 today! I was a bit iffy, but I love it already.
I made Spicy Moroccan Lentil Soup & it was so nice.
I have loved my TM31, but just yesterday as I was using it, it didn't sound quite right. It sounded as though it was labouring & I was only making apple sauce. My consultant had a listen & thought the same. She'll let me know what I should do after she's spoken to the repair guys &/or head office.
I hope it will be ok as I've promised it to my daughter. Anyway seems like good timing to get a brand new model. I feel justified in getting a new one ;)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on December 17, 2014, 08:45:11 am
That's wonderful. Just in time for Christmas.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on December 17, 2014, 08:52:55 am
That's great news that you love your new TM5 SoBlessed. ;D
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Katiej on December 17, 2014, 09:10:31 am
Enjoy your new TM5 SoBlessed.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Kimmyh on December 17, 2014, 09:38:35 am
Wonderful to hear soblessed. Happy cooking.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Thermesa on December 17, 2014, 11:18:42 am
I'm very happy with my TM5.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on December 18, 2014, 07:39:43 am
I love mine too, it's just a nuisance that it needs at tweak at the hospital to stop it shutting off all the time. Nothing major apparently.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on December 18, 2014, 09:28:56 am
I have almost forgotten about the 31. The GC are coming next week so will give them another lesson on it and then send it home with them.  They can teach their mother. They already have made bread and lemon butter in it.  Next soup and custard.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: SoBlessed on December 18, 2014, 10:36:22 am
I was impressed to hear from Thermomix this morning, & after a blade test, the diagnosis was a separated blade. Luckily I had a 2nd bowl & when I tried the newish blade my Thermie sounded normal again. My daughter will be getting a great machine after all :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on December 19, 2014, 12:06:59 am
That would be a relief for you.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: obbie on December 22, 2014, 09:13:36 pm
great so blessed.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on December 26, 2014, 04:40:55 am
That's good to hear, SB.

I'm with you, chookie, I'd rather a second bowl and blade set. I'm fine now as I still have my 31, but when I pass it on to DIL to be, I'll really miss it!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on January 17, 2015, 09:52:09 am
I'm really missing not having a second bowl for my TM5. I recently phoned UK HO to ask if there is any news on delivery and was told it will be a few more months yet.Had a lovely conservation with a young man there who was very helpful.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on February 27, 2015, 10:27:46 am
Me too, CC. I've given my TM31 to my gorgeous DIL who is actually cooking now! My son used to do most of the cooking, now she's experimenting and loving the TM.

So many times, I wish I had that second bowl!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: gertbysea on February 27, 2015, 12:34:35 pm
I would and almost trade the  TM5 for a 31. I cannot stand the delay. I cannot imagine a chef buying for a professional kitchen.

In my experience it is not nearly as useful,in my kitchen as the 31 was.

Kranky old Gert
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on February 28, 2015, 06:53:24 am
Not Kranky Old Gert you have an extremely valid point. It drives me loopy.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on February 28, 2015, 07:55:45 am
Not Kranky Old Gert you have an extremely valid point. It drives me loopy.
Me also.  I considered giving my DD the 5 and keeping the 31. Didn't though.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: meganjane on March 10, 2015, 04:38:53 am
The delay doesn't worry me. I just make sure I have something else to do in that few seconds. Wipe up spills, put things away etc.

My Recipe Chip stopped communicating recently and my consultant is getting me a new one.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cornish Cream on July 17, 2015, 03:20:06 pm
I read on the UK Thermomix Facebook page that they had received a limited stock of 2nd TM5 bowls. Yahoo!!! And the good news is that I will receive mine early next week because I paid for it last September.  :)
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: Cuilidh on July 17, 2015, 09:26:14 pm
That's great news, CC.  It's as well you weren't in a rush for it!
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: judydawn on July 18, 2015, 02:40:25 am
Great news for you Denise.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: achookwoman on July 18, 2015, 03:07:26 am
Great news CC.  I am making a Pineapple Boiled Fruit cake in my 5. I want to make bread but have to wait for the mixture in the bowl to cool down before adding eggs and flour.  grrrrr.
Title: Re: TM5
Post by: cookie1 on July 18, 2015, 07:42:15 am
It's at times like that I enjoy the two machines.