Multigrain sandwich bread?

[Vivaroo]

Can anyone help me with a recipe for ordinary multigrain sandwich bread like from the bakery. That one can make sandwiches with.  I keep wasting ingredients and it's frustrating.  The bread is kind of edible but only good for eating chunky pieces can't make a vegemite sandwich.   I can do nice baguettes & pizzas, but we still buy normal loaves.  The texture is wrong, flops in middle, undercooked even though sounds hollow when tapped, tried the 5 seed loaf tonight and when cutting it falls apart and is too moist even cooked 10 mins longer.  I see there are plenty of bread roll recipes that are apparently easy, how can these convert to a medium loaf tin, maybe add 50% of time?  Am I expecting too much, is homemade bread just so different and thin sandwich slices are not possible?   And want some grains, not plain white bread.
Please help     It doesn't seem like it should be this hard. 

[Carine]

We still use our bread-maker to make sandwich bread and are happy with:
400g baker's flour + 250g multigrain flour mix (both Laucke brand) + 370ml water + EVO + a pinch of salt + tsp yeast.
Hope this helps Vivaroo!

[Vivaroo]

Thanks Carine, I'll look for that mix.  Do you find sandwich bread can't be done by TMX methods or it just suits your schedule better to use a machine?

I think I went wrong with the 5 seed load (EDC) because it was too sticky to handle and I didn't do a second rise because the book didn't say. Maybe a basic white bread is easier than a grain bread and I should learn with that?

[Carine]

It's more convenient to use the bread-maker for every day bread.  My sons (10 & 12) make their own sandwiches before they catch the school bus (I'm out milking) and it's easier for them to have a rectangular bread to slice.
If I'm around home I like making different doughs and I then play with my TMX. 
Vivaroo, if you're not used to make bread just keep practising    You'll quickly get a feel for it!

[Bedlam]

Viveroo, I don't use wholegrain flour, so might no be much help to you. But I do add grain and seed to chokes no fuss loaf with no problems. I add oats pepitos, poppy, sunflower and sesame seeds.

[cookie1]

I use this recipe for my sandwich bread. We love it and it always turns out well. Vivaroo when I first make some breads I put them in the wrong tin and they are a bit yuck. I often have to try a new recipe in a couple of different tins to make it perfect.

I've also found Helene's adaption of 5 seed bread very good too.

[Vivaroo]

Thank you for your replies. I'll buy more bakers flour tomorrow and keep trying.

Cookie I only know the 20x10 size loaf tins sold in the supermarket.    What other kinds are there?  I should google, so much I dont know!

[achookwoman]

Vivaroo,  a few problems here. 
Tin may be a bit small but not the main problem.
If you can make a good white loaf,  replace a 1/4 of the white flour with grain flour or 100g of white flour with milled grain.  This can include some rolled oats. May need 20g more water.
Give it a good rise,(double), shape the loaf,  then another double rise in tin.  Spray well with water and place a dish with water in bottom of oven.
Cook bread, 200/220 for 20 to 25 mins, turning it around after 15 mins.   Remove from tin ,  place on oven rack with bottom of loaf facing back of oven,  bake for a further 10 mins.
Stick in a farenheit thermometer and if the center reaches 200 it is cooked.
DON't cut loaf until cold.

If you are not having any luck with a white loaf then try my No Fuss recipe ir Isi's Portuguese roll recipe.
I use Laucke flour,  I think they make a multi grain mix.   If you can get this use it and just follow one of the above recipes.

Stick with it and you will get there.

[fundj&e]

I bought this bread tin from coles on Monday for only $7.00 its the perfect size for the no fuss bread dough its 30 by 13

[CreamPuff63]

I bought one today cos I saw yours, and just taken out a loaf of isi's normal bread from the oven. (haven't tasted it yet but it was a big loaf)

[achookwoman]

Fundj,   Looks perfect.
CP,  let us know how you go.

[fundj&e]

thanks  achookwoman you are the best 

[Vivaroo]

Thanks Chookie that's the technical info I need. 
Fundj your bread looks lovely and I'll look for this size tin. 

[cookie1]

Thanks Chookie, you are a fountain of knowledge.

[Meagan]

A proper bakers bread tin can make all the difference in my opinion